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Old 03-03-05 | 07:36 PM
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Any thoughts on the hanging pig. Did it just get caught in a trap? Was it hung there as bait for the jungle beast? Maybe an offering, it seemed to have its side torn up a bit. I thought Hurly might mention it when they were looking for something to replace his weight on the booby trap.
Old 03-03-05 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by aktick
Danielle has been there 16 years...man I'm reaching here, aren't I?
I'm not sure if you're reaching, but I think you're incorrect. Danielle and her crew followed the transmission to the island, so it'd been going for some time before she got there.
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Hmmm, right. That must have been the case (the transmissions starting 16 years ago) because the Navy guys were listening before that, and never heard a thing.
Yeah, that's what I got, the sequence of events must've been something like:
-transmissions started 16 years ago, just a series of numbers being transmitted over and over and over again.
-the navy guys heard them and became obsessed with them, one of them married the freaky Australian woman who later lost her leg; later that former navy guy also told the guy Lenny who apparently went crazy because of the numbers, and that guy Lenny told Hurley, who played the numbers in the lottery.
-Danielle and whoever was on the boat with her also heard the numbers being transmitted, followed the transmission to the island, shipwrecked, and after her crew died, Daniellle changed the transmission to her famous distress signal.
Old 03-03-05 | 08:08 PM
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From: Lounging on the beach in L.A., frappucino in hand...
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
No explanation on why he's called "Hurley?" (If he attempted suicide, maybe he tried hurling himself off of something?)
Didn't he say he preferred to be called Hurley? Hardly makes sense if that's because he "hurled himself off something", why would he choose that name?

I assumed it was a name he chose to travel incognito under... was his name on the passenger list under Reyes (his real name) or Hurley? If it was under his real name, I'm guessing he picked Hurley to keep his secret, in case anyone had heard of him.

Guess we'll have to wait for his next backstory.
Old 03-03-05 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bug
The French lady changed the signal the radio tower was transmitting 16 years ago
Where is everyone getting this? The first episode said the message had been transmitting for 16 years, but the message USED to be the numbers. For all we know, the numbers started transmitting 16 years ago, then after some time Danielle and crew shipwrecked, everyone got sick, THEN she changed the message. That doesn't mean the 16-year-counter would've been reset.

You know what I keep thinking about? The second Die Hard movie, where the airport uses the signal beacons to transmit a message. Maybe the transmission was a distress call from whatever the hatch is, and maybe the numbers correspond with the location.
Old 03-03-05 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by treszoks
The logical explanation could be that it's a distress signal with a location? The lat/long of 4 8' 15", 16 23' 42" is a location NE of Australia which could possibly be where they are. Maybe this metal object was inscribed with it's location and the people who placed it on the island ended up lost/stranded as well and tried to signal for help using what info they had of their location?
Oh, now THAT'S an interesting theory... hmmm... I also thought it was the location, but didn't think of lat/long.

However, I checked and if it's latitude and longitude (in that order), that's actually a location in central Africa:
Latitude: 4° 8 Min.15 Sec, Longitude: 16° 23 Min. 42 Sec

and if it's longitude and latitude (in that order), that's actually in northwest Africa, on the edge of Niger: Longitude: 4° 8 Min.15 Sec, Latitude: 16° 23 Min. 42 Sec

Where are you getting "location NE of Australia"? I checked, even if you add minus signs, you still get in or near Africa... but good theory otherwise.
Old 03-03-05 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Morf
Now that is more like it:

http://snipurl.com/LostCoordinates2
Nope, that's if you add minus signs in front of them... see my post above, and sorry it was a duplicate!

Originally Posted by DocBrass
BINGO!
middle of the Pacific Ocean (or some little island in Hawaii).
Nope, that shows a location in the Atlantic! Gahhh...

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Old 03-03-05 | 08:54 PM
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I didn't notice what Sawyer was reading, but someone mentioned it was A Wrinkle in Time. It's a good book, but most people read it in middle school. Granted, Sawyer is no braniac, but it seems like maybe there's a message there--maybe the plane's journey was a "tesseract" and they somehow folded time or space to get to where or when they are.
Old 03-03-05 | 09:16 PM
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The account had mentioned that his net worth doubled. Doesn't that make his lottery prize $78 million instead of the mentioned $156 million?

Also, has anyone tried all combinations of the numbers as urls? I tried these with no luck:

48.151.623.42
48.151.62.342
481.5.162.342
4.815.162.342
48.15.162.342

Just an idea.

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Old 03-03-05 | 10:02 PM
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http://snipurl.com/LostCoordinates2

This IS the location NE Of Australia. It's in the Pacific Ocean between Australia and Hawaii. You don't need the negatives if you are giving the coordinates relatively. To be more specific:

lat: 4 8' 15" NORTH
long: 162 3' 42" EAST
Old 03-03-05 | 10:07 PM
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Also...The woman in Australia told Hurley her husband DIED 4 years ago!!!


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Old 03-03-05 | 10:10 PM
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Also...When Kate jumped on Sawyer..He said" I made this Birthday wish 4 Years Ago!!"

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Old 03-03-05 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by edstein
The account had mentioned that his net worth doubled. Doesn't that make his lottery prize $78 million instead of the mentioned $156 million?

Also, has anyone tried all combinations of the numbers as urls? I tried these with no luck:

48.151.623.42
48.151.62.342
481.5.162.342
4.815.162.342
48.15.162.342

Just an idea.
Note: IP Address value cannot be greater than 255 ("FF" in hexadecimal) and the value of 255 is generally used for subnet masking, so the actual limit is 254...i.e. 48.15.254.3
Old 03-03-05 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chowderhead
Hurley has consistently lost money to Walt in backgammon.
yeah, walt said something about how hurley owed him some huge number (like $80K). i guess if they ever get off the island that hurley can actually make good on the debt.
Old 03-03-05 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shoppingbear
Where is everyone getting this? The first episode said the message had been transmitting for 16 years, but the message USED to be the numbers. For all we know, the numbers started transmitting 16 years ago, then after some time Danielle and crew shipwrecked, everyone got sick, THEN she changed the message. That doesn't mean the 16-year-counter would've been reset.
What the French lady did was send out her distress call, and she had some computer or something increment a number after each time it played. First time it played it said "one", then "two", etc. So Sayid did quick calculations in his head that made him realize that her message had been transmitting for 16 years.

We have no idea how long the message containing the "cursed" numbers played before the french lady changed the message to be her distress call. It could have been hours, days, years, who knows. Somebody was on that island before she was, buried something with a hatch, built a radio tower, and used that tower to broadcast numbers that drove her ship into the island.
Old 03-03-05 | 11:26 PM
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ah, i see what you're saying, shoppingbear. you're saying the numbers were broadcast with that same counter preceeding them. then french chick changed the message (replacing the numbers), but the counter continued to count up. makes sense.
Old 03-04-05 | 12:05 AM
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Deviating from the topic, it seems Hurley is adopted.
Old 03-04-05 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
maybe they actually ARE in hawaii?
[cliffclavin]Here's a little-known fact[/cliffclavin] : They can NEVER claim that they are anywhere else but in Hawaii. Hawaii has a tax law to encourage local film and TV productions by allowing them to shoot at a discounted rate. They get a full tax refund on all expenses (usually equal to the 4.167 HI sales tax). The one provision : They must not substitiute Hawaii for any other location. How does Lost get away with it then? They never say that they AREN'T in Hawaii. I read that in the WSJ befrore the show aired.
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ha ha. interesting. so as soon as we find out where they really are, if it's not hawaii, they lose the tax break.
Old 03-04-05 | 01:21 AM
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Addendum to own post : They clearly substitute Hawaii for other locations (Austrailia, L.A., Seoul, New York, Manchester for God's sake). So maybe they've found some sort of loophole or the WSJ was just wrong. I thought it was funny at the time and still do, though.
Old 03-04-05 | 07:17 AM
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I need more proof that those numbers might be cursed.
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Originally Posted by TyroneJordan
Deviating from the topic, it seems Hurley is adopted.
Old 03-04-05 | 07:43 AM
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I think he's going from the race of his parents when they showed the them all being interviewd by the news crew in front of their house.
Old 03-04-05 | 07:55 AM
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His mom was Hispanic. His brother was Hispanic. His grandfather was Hispanic. Hurley is Hispanic.

Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by shoppingbear
Nope, that's if you add minus signs in front of them.
No it is not. Visit that link again.

Latitude: 4° 8 Min.15 Sec.
Longitude: 162° 3 Min. 42 Sec.
Old 03-04-05 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shoppingbear
I'm not sure if you're reaching, but I think you're incorrect. Danielle and her crew followed the transmission to the island, so it'd been going for some time before she got there.

Yeah, that's what I got, the sequence of events must've been something like:
-transmissions started 16 years ago, just a series of numbers being transmitted over and over and over again.
-the navy guys heard them and became obsessed with them, one of them married the freaky Australian woman who later lost her leg; later that former navy guy also told the guy Lenny who apparently went crazy because of the numbers, and that guy Lenny told Hurley, who played the numbers in the lottery.
-Danielle and whoever was on the boat with her also heard the numbers being transmitted, followed the transmission to the island, shipwrecked, and after her crew died, Daniellle changed the transmission to her famous distress signal.
BUT! The transmission Danielle created herself has been looping for 16 years..

Or is the contention that Danielle didn't create the timer, she just left it?

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