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Old 10-29-04 | 03:10 PM
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I admire the way Andy stood up for himself and his instincts. Maria and Kelly were pushing for the "sex appeal" angle which was dumb and Andy knew it.

In my opinion Kevin was already the best candidate on the show and this episode just reinforced that.

Yeah - WTF were they thinking? Sex appeal in a police recruitment advertisment, particularly after they were explicitly told to craft a campaign that tugs at the heart? Did they equate heart with genitals?
Old 10-29-04 | 03:19 PM
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Did they equate heart with genitals?
Gives a whole new meaning to the song "Open Up Your Heart and Let the Sunshine In"...
Old 10-29-04 | 03:21 PM
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What was up with Raj and the joke he made about dressing like a terrorist in the ad campaign ?


It is obvious but he is trying to be as white as possible and dissing people of his own race and only his name keeps him from being completely white.
Old 10-29-04 | 03:26 PM
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Liz shouldn't have gotten fired.
Old 10-29-04 | 03:31 PM
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Liz shouldn't have gotten fired.
Why not? She was a bad leader. She had no creative ideas and even if she did she couldn't sell them to her team. She had no control or respect.
Old 10-29-04 | 04:24 PM
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yet she was the only one who felt that a losing idea was wrong.
Old 10-29-04 | 05:11 PM
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Why not? She was a bad leader. She had no creative ideas and even if she did she couldn't sell them to her team. She had no control or respect.
I agree, but...so cute.
Old 10-29-04 | 05:13 PM
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Andy keeps saying that because he is being ripped on for being too young. A guy like Kevin does not keep saying, "im a black man" because no one says he's not good enough because he's black. What you are saying is not the same thing.
I just don't like anyone saying "It's because I'm _____" Yes, Andy has been ripped on for being young. And although Kevin hasn't been, black people have been ripped on for being black. Hispanic, women, etc. But everytime anything happened he'd say "A 22yr old led them. A 22 yr old came up with an idea and it was on the Times Sqaure screen. They'll have ta do what this 22 yr old tells them to. Etc." I dunno...just got old IMHO. People are people...no need ta point out age, sex, race, etc. ANDY did well.
Old 10-29-04 | 07:30 PM
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Kevin scored so many points last night for being a good team player and really rallied for the team to not go to the boardroom. I'd like to see him make it further now, he really stood out last night.

As for Elizabeth, she seemed to have lost so much steam and lacked energy since that first time she PM'd. It was so obvious that they wanted her fired. That Ivana should keep quiet, if Bradford hadn't gotten the boot, she'd be out of the running. I'd like to see her do a better job, I don't think she's capable.
Old 10-29-04 | 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Yeah - WTF were they thinking? Sex appeal in a police recruitment advertisment, particularly after they were explicitly told to craft a campaign that tugs at the heart? Did they equate heart with genitals?
They were creating an out for them to hang their hat if the team lost.

Maria blinking wildly -"We lost becuase Andy didn't want to put sex in the ad".
Carolyn -"Andy, if putting sex in your ad would have won, why didn't you do it?"
Old 10-29-04 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Stu 17
yet she was the only one who felt that a losing idea was wrong.
That was her only saving grace. Too bad she couldn't persuade her team. The problem was she offered no alternative.
Old 10-29-04 | 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
Maria blinking wildly -"We lost becuase Andy didn't want to put sex in the ad".
Carolyn -"Andy, if putting sex in your ad would have won, why didn't you do it?"
Old 10-30-04 | 12:21 AM
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That was her only saving grace. Too bad she couldn't persuade her team. The problem was she offered no alternative.
what's even more puzzling is that she's the founder and owner of a very very successful marketing firm.
Old 10-30-04 | 01:18 AM
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Since she's no more, could someone please post a hot pic of her. God, she's a cutie! She's got those nice dark thick eyebrows, and that Maureen McCormack on Tea Leoni action kinda look to her. She is really sexy. Too bad she won't be there to gawk at next week.

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Old 10-30-04 | 01:26 AM
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Anyone wish to reconsider their opinion?

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Old 10-30-04 | 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
They were creating an out for them to hang their hat if the team lost.

Maria blinking wildly -"We lost becuase Andy didn't want to put sex in the ad".
Carolyn -"Andy, if putting sex in your ad would have won, why didn't you do it?"

Funny and true. I have never thought much of Maria, she is just bad, but my opinion of her sunk to a new low with this blatant preemptive attempt at passing the buck. Kelly's stock has also gone lower the last two weeks, this past episode in particular. He had bad ideas and was really no help to the team, nor did he think of the team.

Andy's stock definitely went up. He had good ideas and managed his team well, even despite the reluctance by some of his team members. This challenge may have been the biggest disparity between the two teams, and Andy was primarily responsible for that. I think he goes to the final four.
Old 10-30-04 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by BabiG
I agree, but...so cute.
I agree. Hawtness > Leadership.

Anyways, I did think she wasn't that strong as a leader, but felt she was in a terrible position. Nobody agreed with her. Granted, as I said, she didn't exactly present strong skills to take charge, but it felt like the other guys would have stuck with their idea no matter what. And ultimately, that idea sucked, and was the downfall of that team. My pick would have been Raj.
Old 10-30-04 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
They were creating an out for them to hang their hat if the team lost.

Maria blinking wildly -"We lost becuase Andy didn't want to put sex in the ad".
Carolyn -"Andy, if putting sex in your ad would have won, why didn't you do it?"
The best part is Andy caught it right away and called them out on it...plus notice how they didnt say that in person, but waited till they were out and George walked INTO the room to use the walkee talkee feature on the phone....why didnt they just wear sandwich boards saying GEORGE, PLEASE TELL MR TRUMP THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TEH SEXY BUT ANDY DID NOT...THAT IS ALL!
Old 10-30-04 | 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Pharoh
I have never thought much of Maria, she is just bad, but my opinion of her sunk to a new low with this blatant preemptive attempt at passing the buck.
I made my husband laugh last week at the episode when Maria was wearing that big flower thing on her chest. I was like, "Does she squirt water out of that thing?" We just had this vision of Maria squirting water at Mr. Trump across the boardroom table, like a clown.
Old 10-30-04 | 04:37 PM
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So did Raj really believe in his stupid idea, or did he just force it on the team to sabotage Elizabeth?

I've known a lot of guys like Raj... they're smart and outgoing, but they can be extremely clueless on certain things and won't back away from a bad idea.

I was watching his commercial and laughing my ass off... it shows cops in riot gear kicking down doors, and makes it look like some kind of Yugoslavian military training video. I'm surprised it didn't show a circle of cops beating the shit out some guy with truncheons.

That said, how hard could it be to come with an alternative? Just something easy and sappy like "We need YOU to help us make this a better city." From what I saw, it looked like Raj was pushing his idea hard, and might've wanted to stand up to him.
Old 10-30-04 | 09:06 PM
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I think Raj was going for a Starship Trooper's feel to the video.
Old 10-31-04 | 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
So did Raj really believe in his stupid idea, or did he just force it on the team to sabotage Elizabeth?
I'm sure he really believed in it. He was so impressed by all the police equipment, he didn't see a downside to hyping it.

The funny thing is that if Elizabeth had just backed the idea and made the commercial as the rest of the team envisioned it instead of trying to change it late in the game, she would not have been conflicting with her team and Raj probably would've been fired for coming up with and pushing for such a lousy idea. I mean, face it, the idea is why they lost, not Elizabeth's wishy-washy leadership.
Old 10-31-04 | 11:23 AM
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I think Raj was going for a Starship Trooper's feel to the video.


They should have just added some giant bugs attacking NYC.
Old 10-31-04 | 04:29 PM
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I think that it was a combination of setting up Elizabeth to be fired and Raj truly liking his idea, he was very animated in his description of why it would work.

Raj has lost points with me lately with his ramblings. At first, it added character to an otherwise intense group, now it's becoming distracting.
Old 11-01-04 | 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by taa455
I admire the way Andy stood up for himself and his instincts. Maria and Kelly were pushing for the "sex appeal" angle which was dumb and Andy knew it.

In my opinion Kevin was already the best candidate on the show and this episode just reinforced that.

Agreed.

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I would like to see Kevin and Kelly be the final two. I'm tired of Raj....he seems like an overbearing asshole to me.....and I'm tired of his cheesy bow-ties.

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