The Apprentice 10/28/04
10-28-04, 11:42 PM
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The Apprentice 10/28/04
I almost think Raj kept pushing the Military idea to get Elizabeth fired because anyone with a room temperature IQ would know that a "police state" angle would turn off prospective NYPD applicants across the board. Elizabeth was stupid enough to not squash that idea immediately.
They should have went with a heroic/self-sacrifice angle, plus add in a "to protect and serve" reminder in terms of NY's way of life.
Donnie could not have been more specific, get to the heart of prospective applicant, and create a feel-good aspect to getting people to want to serve in the NYPD.
They should have went with a heroic/self-sacrifice angle, plus add in a "to protect and serve" reminder in terms of NY's way of life.
Donnie could not have been more specific, get to the heart of prospective applicant, and create a feel-good aspect to getting people to want to serve in the NYPD.
10-28-04, 11:44 PM
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that commercial scared the hell out of me!
If she had stayed with her idea of changing it to a more somber "emotional" theme and told the rest of the team to go fuck themselves she would have still been there.
If she had stayed with her idea of changing it to a more somber "emotional" theme and told the rest of the team to go fuck themselves she would have still been there.
10-28-04, 11:58 PM
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I liked how the voiceovers of Trump saying something brilliant and insightful sounds NOTHING like the voice audio during the board meeting. Nice cutaways also. A test of a true leader is knowing exactly what you want to say at that time and not fill in the words after the fact. Bfrank Head Shake
10-29-04, 12:13 AM
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wow, Elizabeth was practically the worst PM ever. Hek, Donald fired her without letting her bring in the 2 others for the firing.
Hmm, but sadly, Elizabeth was my favorite looks-wise. If Sandy goes, there will be no more eye-candy on the show.
One more thing, I think that all the contestants should be PM at least once before someone is PM a second time.
Hmm, but sadly, Elizabeth was my favorite looks-wise. If Sandy goes, there will be no more eye-candy on the show.
One more thing, I think that all the contestants should be PM at least once before someone is PM a second time.
10-29-04, 12:47 AM
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wow, Elizabeth was practically the worst PM ever. Hek, Donald fired her without letting her bring in the 2 others for the firing.
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10-29-04, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by chowderhead
I liked how the voiceovers of Trump saying something brilliant and insightful sounds NOTHING like the voice audio during the board meeting. Nice cutaways also. A test of a true leader is knowing exactly what you want to say at that time and not fill in the words after the fact. Bfrank Head Shake
I liked how the voiceovers of Trump saying something brilliant and insightful sounds NOTHING like the voice audio during the board meeting. Nice cutaways also. A test of a true leader is knowing exactly what you want to say at that time and not fill in the words after the fact. Bfrank Head Shake
Been doing that ever since the first show aired from the first season...
What is even worse is that he is awful at reading cue cards (season finale of App. First Season and SNL.)
10-29-04, 08:39 AM
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Man that was harsh. But necessary. Too much of a setup by the team members though.
Man that was harsh. But necessary. Too much of a setup by the team members though.
That pretty much says it all. That was a horrible ad campaign though.
10-29-04, 09:52 AM
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Night and day difference in PM quality there. Elizabeth had no control and failed. She let herself be berated and belittled every step of the way, and she refused to stand up for anything she believed in. Andy seized control and pulled out a victory despite his team questioning the 'sexiness' of the piece. When he *did* make consessions (like sharing the presentation duties), it was actually the right call as well, showing an ability to be flexible for the good of the team.
Surprised for all the Elizabeth love here... I always thought she was just average attractiveness on the show. I mean, she's not bad at all, but nothing special.
Now Jennifer M. on the other hand... maybe I just like the sexy bitchy thing, I dunno.
Surprised for all the Elizabeth love here... I always thought she was just average attractiveness on the show. I mean, she's not bad at all, but nothing special.
Now Jennifer M. on the other hand... maybe I just like the sexy bitchy thing, I dunno.
10-29-04, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by CPA-ESQ.
yeah I lost my girl
Is this going to be repeated on Saturday? There was no mention of this at the end of the show
yeah I lost my girl
Is this going to be repeated on Saturday? There was no mention of this at the end of the show
I really didn't see any "exclusive" clips there at all. YMMV
10-29-04, 11:13 AM
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Kevin went up in my opinion. The way he stayed and worked through it with Elizabeth...then after she changed it he pulled her aside and tried to give her some advice on how to save her skin...these are some of the traits I think make a great leader. Not sure if he's been a PM yet...but I hope he goes far.
Andy constantly saying "a 22 yr old" got old fast. Replace that statement with "a black man" or "a hispanic woman" and you'll understand what I mean.
Nice job of The Don to not let 'em leave and come back... This was over pretty early and Elizabeth should have realized it.
Lastly... I thought it was hilarious that Ivana (I think) used the term flip-flop! It's amazing how readily people take trendy words/terms and run with them.
Andy constantly saying "a 22 yr old" got old fast. Replace that statement with "a black man" or "a hispanic woman" and you'll understand what I mean.
Nice job of The Don to not let 'em leave and come back... This was over pretty early and Elizabeth should have realized it.
Lastly... I thought it was hilarious that Ivana (I think) used the term flip-flop! It's amazing how readily people take trendy words/terms and run with them.
10-29-04, 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by BassDude
Kevin went up in my opinion. The way he stayed and worked through it with Elizabeth...then after she changed it he pulled her aside and tried to give her some advice on how to save her skin...these are some of the traits I think make a great leader. Not sure if he's been a PM yet...but I hope he goes far.
Kevin went up in my opinion. The way he stayed and worked through it with Elizabeth...then after she changed it he pulled her aside and tried to give her some advice on how to save her skin...these are some of the traits I think make a great leader. Not sure if he's been a PM yet...but I hope he goes far.
I used to think Raj was a shoo-in for the end game as well, but now I'm not so sure.
I doubt we'll see any women in the top two this time either.
10-29-04, 12:14 PM
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I'm not sure if anyone caught this, or if it is even worth the bother, since I don't know what swear words are used on tv anymore. But during one scene, I forget which group, the group with Elizabeth, one of the guys said "All I told her was to not be a p***y". I had to rewind, yay tivo, and listen, and I'm positive he said that. Now is that accepted nowadays??
Good episode though.
Good episode though.
10-29-04, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Neitzl
I'm not sure if anyone caught this, or if it is even worth the bother, since I don't know what swear words are used on tv anymore. But during one scene, I forget which group, the group with Elizabeth, one of the guys said "All I told her was to not be a p***y". I had to rewind, yay tivo, and listen, and I'm positive he said that. Now is that accepted nowadays??
Good episode though.
I'm not sure if anyone caught this, or if it is even worth the bother, since I don't know what swear words are used on tv anymore. But during one scene, I forget which group, the group with Elizabeth, one of the guys said "All I told her was to not be a p***y". I had to rewind, yay tivo, and listen, and I'm positive he said that. Now is that accepted nowadays??
Good episode though.
Might have said 'pansy.' Turn on your CC and check.
10-29-04, 12:46 PM
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I felt kind of bad for Elizabeth. She was the only person on her team that knew the military angle was bad, but she was screwed either way. She was outnumbered, so she could either go with their idea, or go in another direction without the team's support. She couldn't have won either way. If Raj had been PM, he probably would have been fired dor pushing such a bad idea.
I agree Elizabeth is very attractive, she kind of reminds me of Liz Phair.
I agree Elizabeth is very attractive, she kind of reminds me of Liz Phair.
10-29-04, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Patman
No, it was p*ssy, but it was referring to not being a wuss, not the anatomical sexual organ on a female.
No, it was p*ssy, but it was referring to not being a wuss, not the anatomical sexual organ on a female.
Just like using the male anatomical sexual organ to say that someone is being as ass.
Or am I wrong on this. Been wrong before, so I'll live.
10-29-04, 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Neitzl
I know that's how it's used, but it's still referring to the anatomical sexual organ on the female. At least that's how I've always heard been interpreted as, and that's the way I've always taken it as well.
Just like using the male anatomical sexual organ to say that someone is being as ass.
Or am I wrong on this. Been wrong before, so I'll live.
I know that's how it's used, but it's still referring to the anatomical sexual organ on the female. At least that's how I've always heard been interpreted as, and that's the way I've always taken it as well.
Just like using the male anatomical sexual organ to say that someone is being as ass.
Or am I wrong on this. Been wrong before, so I'll live.
10-29-04, 03:01 PM
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I admire the way Andy stood up for himself and his instincts. Maria and Kelly were pushing for the "sex appeal" angle which was dumb and Andy knew it.
In my opinion Kevin was already the best candidate on the show and this episode just reinforced that.
In my opinion Kevin was already the best candidate on the show and this episode just reinforced that.
10-29-04, 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by BassDude
Andy constantly saying "a 22 yr old" got old fast. Replace that statement with "a black man" or "a hispanic woman" and you'll understand what I mean.
Andy constantly saying "a 22 yr old" got old fast. Replace that statement with "a black man" or "a hispanic woman" and you'll understand what I mean.
Andy keeps saying that because he is being ripped on for being too young. A guy like Kevin does not keep saying, "im a black man" because no one says he's not good enough because he's black. What you are saying is not the same thing.
