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Old 10-02-04 | 03:20 PM
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Dumbest thing I have seen on DVDTalk in a while (excluding the Other Talk board).

I cannot for the life of me understand why a mod would close a thread about a current episode of a show. I could see when someone does a bunch of threads asking WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE SHOW POLL, WHAT'S YOUR LEAST FAVORITE SHOW POLL, WHAT SHOW DO YOU LIKE THAT NO ONE ELSE LIKES, WHAT SHOW THAT EVERYONE LIKES DO YOU NOT LIKE, and the such.

But to close threads just because a tv viewer wants everyone to discuss them....again, dumbest idea ever!

Something that the mods and I DO NOT agree with, I guess.


Talk about losing your first amendment rights.
Old 10-02-04 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by movieking
I have no problem with B.A. creating the threads but I do find it annoying that the threads are started so early in the day. I find it to be annoying (others do as well, if you haven't noticed some comments in other various threads). If he was to start all of the threads when the shows started or just before they aired, I would be fine with that. He can be the official TV Talk Thread Started for all I care, with only him being allowed to create threads on shows!
What's the difference between posting them 10 hours in advance where people can discuss what they think will happen against starting it right as the show goes off?

It's gonna be on the board anyway.

From that last sentence, I get a vibe of jealousy.
Old 10-02-04 | 03:26 PM
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I think I ignore who actually starts a thread more in this forum than in any other. Once I get in the thread and people start expressing their opinions, I take notice of who is saying what, but as for who starts the thread, it really is irrelevant.

It's pretty silly to punish someone for starting a bunch of threads that have discussion in them. I rarely start threads in TV Talk because someone else usually has beaten me to it. I think there are some people who are to hesitant/lazy to start threads, but still like to join in the discussion. I appreciate the work people like B.A. do to get threads setup for discussion.
Old 10-02-04 | 03:33 PM
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Old 10-02-04 | 03:35 PM
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That's ignorant. You're ignorant.

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Old 10-02-04 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by conscience

Talk about losing your first amendment rights.
This has nothing to do with first amendment rights.

That being said, I agree with everything das has said. He has articulated his position eloquently and clearly, and he's in the right.

Edit: It almost makes me regret voting for Thor for Other president. Almost.
Old 10-02-04 | 03:51 PM
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I agree ... that you should regret not voting for me!!! Nah, I agree that it's not about "rights." It's simply a question of what's best for the community.

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Old 10-02-04 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Suprmallet
This has nothing to do with first amendment rights.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Wow you are tellin' me.
Old 10-02-04 | 04:22 PM
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• conscience •

Congress shall make no law ...
Did Congress pass a law regarding TV Talk without telling me?!? How dare them!!! All laws regarding TV Talk need to be run by me first!

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Old 10-02-04 | 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by conscience
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Wow you are tellin' me.
DVDtalk isn't run by Congress or any other part of the government.
Old 10-02-04 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by movieking
I for one am glad that the thread madness will stop. I don't think that there is there a need to start a thread for every show that airs every night, pushing all other active threads off the first page. I am willing to bet that many of these threads would not have been started by others since many of the shows do not generate much interest on the group.


I agree with movieking. B.A. was staring threads for way too many shows, but relied on other people to start any kind of discussion (they were just cast lists and plot summaries). If no one was interested in actually discussing these shows, the threads still pushed other threads off the page. I think at one point yesterday B.A. had 15 threads on the first page alone, and that's irritating as hell.

If someone watches a show and actually wants to discuss it, then let them come here and start a thread with their opinions and thoughts. If no one is interested, a thread doesn't need to be started.
Old 10-02-04 | 04:33 PM
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Das- I couldn't agree with you more!

B.A.- I actually really liked how you were posting shows the day they were on; it was like a Tv guide for me, since I check in this forum more than any of the others on DVDtalk.

Moderators- I was the last to post on BA's thread for dr. Vegas before you closed it, and was going to post a reply until I saw you closed his threads. I honestly, for the life of me, can't understand the logic behind not letting him post on shows. He was doing everything in consideration of other readers! BA was even spoilerizing plot summeries in the thread in case people don't want to know what happens.

FREE B.A.!! FREE B.A.!!!!
Old 10-02-04 | 04:34 PM
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Without wanting to step on anyone's toes, I'd still like to make sure everyone here can discuss the episodes they would like to, without needing to start a new thread. If there is a specific closed thread you would like to post to, please feel free to shoot an email and I can open it. We don't want a mutiny on our hands.

Now everyone let's play nice here. It's just television.
Old 10-02-04 | 04:36 PM
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• Jadzia •

It's just television.
It's not TV. It's HBO!

Oh wait ... nevermind.

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Old 10-02-04 | 04:41 PM
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I agree with movieking. B.A. was staring threads for way too many shows, but relied on other people to start any kind of discussion (they were just cast lists and plot summaries). If no one was interested in actually discussing these shows, the threads still pushed other threads off the page. I think at one point yesterday B.A. had 15 threads on the first page alone, and that's irritating as hell.

If someone watches a show and actually wants to discuss it, then let them come here and start a thread with their opinions and thoughts. If no one is interested, a thread doesn't need to be started.
I would be inclined to agree with you if these threads weren't creating discussion or if they were started days in advance; but that's just not the case.

Lost, Las Vegas, American Dreams, Nip/Tuck, Smallville, Scrubs, That 70's Show, Third Watch, Rescue Me, One Tree Hill. With the exception of a couple of new shows that are unknowns (but most have been heavily discussed anyway like Jack & Bobby and Veronica Mars), these are the threads we're talking about. When is there ever going to be a time when we won't want to discuss episodes of these shows? These are the most popular shows on the forum. We talk about them every single week. And as B.A. has noted, he only creates threads on shows he watches. So the only possible issue I could see is that they're started in the morning ... to alert people that the show is going to be on that evening ... instead of the afternoon; because everyone here knows that the threads will be created regardless of who is the first to do it.

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Old 10-02-04 | 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by das Monkey
Seems like a pointless (over)reaction to me. I really appreciated B.A. keeping up with all the shows and having the threads ready for us.


I actually like having a thread ready for me right after Smallville is over.

What's next....Closing TV Episode Threads because they're started a week in advanced?
Old 10-02-04 | 05:04 PM
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meh.. alot of this could be solved with a week or 2 week date listing for some of crappy shows rather then an ep by ep break down.. .. I mean I think it's pretty clear looking at the threads that only B.A and I watched "The Moutain" on the WB.. heh.. soooo not really sure we need a week by week post per an ep for the bad stuff..

same for LAX and a few other shows. I mean how many times can you say "Well that sort of sucked"..

but still,l I don't see what the big deal was.. If no one cares about a given show, it falls of the list.. New post for a given day knocks a post off that front page? OMFG NO?!!?! You mean you have to take 2 seconds to click the little 1,2,3 at the bottom of the screen and spend 5 seconds to glace the listing to find the tread on "Show Whatever" so you can read up if people liked it or not?

If post are made and people reply then clearly their is an interest in that thread over another.. Plus again, every reply racks a thread right back to the top of the list (as you all know).. So big deal, ya click the "2" to get the 2nd screen.. Reply how ya hated LAX, again this week.. and poof.. right back the to top.. not a big deal..
Old 10-02-04 | 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by Jadzia
Without wanting to step on anyone's toes, I'd still like to make sure everyone here can discuss the episodes they would like to, without needing to start a new thread. If there is a specific closed thread you would like to post to, please feel free to shoot an email and I can open it. We don't want a mutiny on our hands.

Now everyone let's play nice here. It's just television.
Wouldn't it be easier to reopen them all and just see which ones get some discussion? Not clear to me that we save anything by having them closed vs dying with zero additional posts if no one cares.

I've opened a couple that weren't on B.A.'s radar or he just didn't get here early enough, but I never felt bad if he posted before I could. I don't see it much mattering who posts the reminder. Maybe in this forum we need a different rule. Perhaps not posting until the day of (or at most the day before) the show(*). And if a show doesn't get much discussion for a few weeks, maybe not worth posting as nobody cares. The existing rule makes sense in Other forum, but I think we need to reconsider here.

(*)And there may be cases for exceptions. Not that I care enough to watch twice, but obviously a lot of excitment about Lost being shown in entirety tonight vs two halfs. It was useful to people to post that well in advance. Maybe premieres in general are worth posting early.
Old 10-02-04 | 05:19 PM
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It might not make the mods happy, but obviously the mods aren't making us happy right now.

FIGHT THE POWER!!!
Old 10-02-04 | 05:42 PM
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meh.. alot of this could be solved with a week or 2 week date listing for some of crappy shows rather then an ep by ep break down.. .. I mean I think it's pretty clear looking at the threads that only B.A and I watched "The Moutain" on the WB.. heh.. soooo not really sure we need a week by week post per an ep for the bad stuff..
After last weeks ep, I wasn't going to start another thread on that show because of lack of interest. I was just giving it a couple of weeks since it was a new show.

Anyhow - thanks to everyone for their support.
Old 10-02-04 | 06:41 PM
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Did Congress pass a law regarding TV Talk without telling me?!? How dare them!!! All laws regarding TV Talk need to be run by me first!

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Congress or any other function. Duh!
Old 10-02-04 | 06:42 PM
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DVDtalk isn't run by Congress or any other part of the government.

You do know that the first amendment extends to more than just Congress...

Ask the NAACP. They'll tell you.
Old 10-02-04 | 06:54 PM
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You do know that the first amendment extends to more than just Congress...
Thats why I said "any other part of the government" also.
Old 10-02-04 | 07:21 PM
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conscience, so we can lay this first amendment stuff to rest once and for all, I quote from the forum rules:

"Terms and Conditions for DVD Talk Forum:
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DVD Talk is a private membership organization, NOT a public forum. Membership to DVD Talk is predicated on your ADHERENCE to the rules and policies detailed below.

Although DVD Talk does not and cannot review the messages posted and is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we at DVD Talk reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever."

So, again, this is not a public forum, it is private. They can do what they want when they want to anything we post, and the first amendment has nothing to do with it.
Old 10-02-04 | 07:44 PM
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I for one thank B.A. for his support of this forum ...TV Talk.

My vote for 2nd dumbest idea goes to giving a set amount of time prior to a show time to post about it.

I'm sure some posters here have B.A. to thank for posting a show and reminding them it was running that very day. I've more than once forgotten a particular show or have been intrigued by the plot summary to watch a show airing that day.


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