I think she left because the audience booed her right off the bat. I think the only reason she went on Allstars was to improve on how people saw her. She did start out totally different and seemed like a real nice person at the beginning. But she eventually turned back into the same person she was in her past Survivor stint. I believe it can best be summed up by saying she has some issues.

I thought it was hilarious that they didn't even let Alicia speak on the reunion show. HAHAHA. Take your bitter piss face and your 15 minutes and get the hell out of our lives.

I totally agree with what Jenna said about Rob wussing out at the final TC. Instead of some fake emotional crap, put your real case out there. YOu won most of the challenges and played everyone. Don't be afraid to say it.

Tom, you really are stupid, and so is your inbred, hillbilly offspring.

I do not think anyone at CBS knew anything about the proposal. If they did, why would they let it happen at the beginning, since it basically made the final vote meaningless and killed the anticipation. I truly think it was a surprise to everyone.

Ethan, what the hell are you thinking? YOu can do better.

Jenna L., you are an idiot for not sticking with Rupert. Obviously you had no chance to win immunity since you have shown that you suck at anything other than opening your big trap. YOu do not know for sure that a tie would have led to the "purple rock". They have changed it up before so it could have been something different. Even if it was the purple rock, you still had a 2/3 chance of moving along, which is much better than the basically 0% chance that you gave yourself by voting off Rupert. Rupert would have kept his word and taken you to the final, you dumb bitch. But then again, I get the impression you were just playing for runner up anyway.

Amber was cute, she just looked depressed or nervous or something. And Rob will be gaining another 50+ lbs soon as he enjoys married life, eating pork rinds and watching a baseball game on the couch.

Totally agree, cdollaz. Most everyone here is saying Jenna's only choice was to vote out Rupert. Bullshit! I say stick with Rupert and vote for Rob. If it comes to drawing a rock out of a bag, then great. You have a 50% chance of breaking the Rob/Ambuh alliance by one of them drawing the rock. Of course she also puts herself at risk, but it is worth it. If either Rob or Ambuh is gone, Jenna now has a 100% chance getting to the final. Rupert would have been strong in the final IC and would take Jenna to the final. Both Rob/Amber would have taken Jenna to the final over Rupert.

Um ... chance at final two against Rupert vs. chance at final two against Rob. How does picking the better chance of winning it all equate to being a dumb bitch?

das

I prefer the poker analogy and I was thinking of it right before Pretty Boy Probst mentioned it. Not really because of the bluffing aspect - sure that is part of it, but because even when you play serious poker with friends, you don't play like you are friends. Sure you may joke around between hands and laugh at people are playing, but it is not like you are going to throw away a good hand because of a friendship, or because you feel bad for another player, or because maybe somebody did you a 'favor' in a previous hand. You are playing to take away the money of friends. The only time friendship in poker may come into play is if you truly trust a person and allow them to write an IOU.

Err, people seem to be forgetting that at 4, Amber had immunity, so Jenna only had a 1 in 3 chance of breaking up the Romber alliance if she forced a tie and the purple rock scenario came to fruition.

Good point. Forgot about that.

That was the first thing that came to my mind.

Anyone else think that Rupert looks exactly the same both in the contest and real life?

He looked that way because he had actually just returned from filming Survivor 9. ;)

Oh God, please NO! I am on my knees praying for another Rupertless Survivor.

Think of it this way. She HAS to win the immunity at the end, either way. If she sticks with the tie and Rob goes, then she's got a much better chance of winning the immunity at the end as Rob is gone. Rupert would have not won that challenge and that one is pretty much known ahead of time. He has no balance and he's too big. It's a risk but I still think it was worth that risk to try and get Rob out. She had to know Rob was going to beat her in that challenge. So best case, she is 3rd and worstcase she is 3rd. Keeping Rupert gives bestcase 1/2 and worstcase 4th. I think its a no brainer.

Jenna actually grew a brain and figured that it made no sense for her to pick Rupert unless she was banking on the 1/3 chance that Rob would pull the purple rock.

What was the question? I've lost track...

I must say that this was the most satisfying season of "The Bachelor" I've ever seen. ABC should take note. :D

I thought the same thing last night.

Although Rupert has no balance whatsoever when running along a narrow board, I think he might have done all right in this challenge since it was more of a test of endurance than of balance and Rupert has shown in the past that he can endure quite alot of physical pain and discomfort.

But I do agree with you that it would have made more sense for Jenna to have stuck by Rupert and force the tie breaker than to have gone with Rob and Amber, for she should have known that there was no way she was ever going to get the best of Rob in the final immunity challenge, not after the way he totally dominated almost all of the challenges this season.

You're making unrealistic assumptions. In truth, keeping Rupert is bestcase 2, not 1/2. And while unlikely, keeping Rob is bestcase 1, not 3. I guess it's the difference in playing to win versus copping out. She had zero chance of beating Rupert or Amber in the Final Two ... ZERO. However, she had a hail mary's chance of winning the endurance immunity, or getting dragged to the Final Two by Rob. If you go back to previous Survivors, the final immunity has been one by "weak" players many times. By dumping Rupert, she gave herself a chance to win the whole thing. Keeping him ensures she makes it no further than 2. She was playing to win, putting fate in her own hands (er, feet), and I respect that.

das

I agree 100%. People saying that Jenna should have gone for the 'rock-off' seem to assume that Jenna would have beaten Amber in the final (since I assume everyone agrees that she would not have beaten Rupert) - I think the chances of her beating Amber were very slim. Her only chance to win was to face Rob in the final, which couldn't have happened in a 'rock-off.'

I don't disagree with your basic premise, but I am not sure I agree with the chances of Amber beating Jenna. It would most likely have been a 4-3 vote either way, with Rupert, Lex, & Big Tom voting for Jenna, and Rob, Shii Ann, and Alicia going for Amber. Kathy would have been the swing vote and probably would have waited to make up her mind after the inquisition. I also feel that Kathy would lean to voting for Jenna, she just doesn't seem to like Amber, or more specifically, how she played the game.

I actually think Jenna would have possibly lost worse to Boston Rob, with Rupert, and maybe even Alicia, actually voting for Rob instead of her.

Shii Ann deserves the million. Lasted longer than anybody on smarts alone since she was had no allies.

The Jerri thing was hilarious. The madison square garden crowd started booing her as soon as she opened her mouth. They booed even louder when they heard what she was trying to say. To top things off, Colby was the next to speak and as soon as he began, the crowd went crazy with cheers. Just downright funny considering how much Jerri hates Colby.

I watched the show over just focussing on Jerri. After she was booed, she mostly held her head down and moped. She only woke up to admonish the crowd when they were booing someone else. She made a chopping gesture and yelled "Shut up!" to them with a look of disgust on her face. Then, poof, she was gone. Great stuff.

the pic from entertainment weekly

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs...4__amber_l.jpg

But that's not the full-page photo that's inside the magazine, where Amber (in the same outfit) is holding on to a large sword.

More thoughts...

Amber has said that the editing from the show made Tina Wesson to be all sweetness and light in season 2 (Australia), but inside the game, it was a different story. The editing to keep Tina out of the limelight was used purposefully to create the storyline at the tailend of the season 2.

I think Rob said what many were thinking in his comments that were aired. Hell, I thought it myself, but Rob's way of expressing himself on certain contestants was entertaining enough.

It came down to who didn't piss off the jury members the most, so the sociological aspect of the game was the key to the vote.

Probst has always highlighted the fact that even though you're advancing through the game by getting someone else out, the way you do so can/will have an impact at the final vote because each contestant is human and can be irrational/emotional in their thought processes, but each jury member deserves their vote for outlasting the others to get to be on the jury, so how they vote is how they vote.

Also, I think Ethan and Brian were the only "physically dominant" players that also won the prize, otherwise, it's been about subterfuge, and playing the game on an inter-personal level, not a physical level of just winning challenges. That's 25% of the time that the physically dominant players have won the game.