American Idol 2/17
02-19-04 | 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
I think it's a HUGE stretch to call him a bigot. As DVDsucker said, it was just a joke based on the title of the show.
I think it's a HUGE stretch to call him a bigot. As DVDsucker said, it was just a joke based on the title of the show.
02-19-04 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Patman
I still can't get over that Jesus's brother got 70,000 more vote (much less 70,000 vote at all).
I still can't get over that Jesus's brother got 70,000 more vote (much less 70,000 vote at all).
02-19-04 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
It didn't play as a bigoted comment to me. Like I said, that's a huge stretch and a case of extreme over-sensitivity. Obviously, it didn't play as a bigoted remark to the voters either.
It didn't play as a bigoted comment to me. Like I said, that's a huge stretch and a case of extreme over-sensitivity. Obviously, it didn't play as a bigoted remark to the voters either.
There was no tone of sarcasm or humor in his delivery...he said it straight and serious. If it was a joke, it just didn't play that way.
As for how it played to the voters, you're probably right. But at the same time, most of them probably didn't even pay attention to it. They were more interested in hearing the auditions and the judges comments. The pre-interview stuff was likely largely ignored by most viewers as filler. At least that is what I've found when discussing this with people I work with.
Does that make me ultimately right? Maybe not. But I'm willing to bet that it would rub a lot more people the wrong way if they were to see it highlighted now and if shown in the context of the high percentage of non-white Americans who auditioned in LA.
02-19-04 | 11:05 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't call him a bigot seeing as the comment he made completely went past me without me noticing. If anything he may be ignorant but I wouldn't say a bigot.
02-19-04 | 11:07 AM
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From: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City
As American Idol proves...Americas can handle a chunky girl (Kelly Clarkson), but NO ONE likes a frump (Lisa Loobner)
02-19-04 | 11:11 AM
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I have to say the fact that Lisa got screwed over makes me wonder if it was a case of America hating Tuesday's episode so much that they refused to vote or that people really thought he was better than her, which completely boggles the mind.
02-19-04 | 03:14 PM
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Are you kidding? What quality does Matt have that sets him apart from Camile? He might have sang a little better than her during this round, but that doesn't make up for one thing, looks. This is American Idol folks, if you are that ugly, you better have a voice like Ruben or Clay.
Originally posted by waporvare
If anyone shouldn't have advanced it was Camile. She has a weak voice and bad stage presense. Matt and Lisa should have been the top two from this group.
I don't think Matt is a bigot. I believe he just meant that he was an "Idol" short of qualifying. He was halfway there being an "American".
If anyone shouldn't have advanced it was Camile. She has a weak voice and bad stage presense. Matt and Lisa should have been the top two from this group.
I don't think Matt is a bigot. I believe he just meant that he was an "Idol" short of qualifying. He was halfway there being an "American".
02-19-04 | 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by beecee24
Are you kidding? What quality does Matt have that sets him apart from Camile? He might have sang a little better than her during this round, but that doesn't make up for one thing, looks. This is American Idol folks, if you are that ugly, you better have a voice like Ruben or Clay.
Are you kidding? What quality does Matt have that sets him apart from Camile? He might have sang a little better than her during this round, but that doesn't make up for one thing, looks. This is American Idol folks, if you are that ugly, you better have a voice like Ruben or Clay.
As for his looks, he's grunters type I'm sure and he can sing. Overall he was better than any of the other singers that night.
02-19-04 | 04:38 PM
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Camile does have a nice singing voice, but it just seems very, very weak. Its like she has no power in her vocals at all. Very strange. I was cringing at some of her parts, not that they sounded horrible, but rather seemed very forced...if that makes sense.
02-19-04 | 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by shanester
Matt's song of "What I Would Not Do For Love" was not originally done by Go West but another soul singer from the late 70's who's name escapes me??
Matt's song of "What I Would Not Do For Love" was not originally done by Go West but another soul singer from the late 70's who's name escapes me??
I see Lisa making it in as a Wildcard. As soon as I heard her sing a few notes, I thought she was a contender.
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02-19-04 | 05:58 PM
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There's 12 finalists, right? So only 8 are chosen from the current round of performances. How do the remaining 4 get selected? Are some of them Judge's choices and some Wild Card choices? How does America decide on the Wild Cards or who to vote for in the Wild Card selection? Is there a performance for the Wild Card selection?
02-19-04 | 07:12 PM
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nm. I found the answer in one of the earlier AI threads.
Originally posted by Groucho
The final number is 12, that is correct. However, the four wildcards are a bit different than you described it. Here is how it worked last year:
Each of the judges chose 4 wildcards from any phase of the show. Most of them came from the final 32, but at least one (Carmen, who went on to the final 12) was eliminated earlier.
The 12 wild cards perform, and America votes. The winner of the votes makes the final 12. Additionally, each judge gets to pick 1 wildcard to also go to the final round. Last year, America's "wild card" pic was Clay Aiken.
The final number is 12, that is correct. However, the four wildcards are a bit different than you described it. Here is how it worked last year:
Each of the judges chose 4 wildcards from any phase of the show. Most of them came from the final 32, but at least one (Carmen, who went on to the final 12) was eliminated earlier.
The 12 wild cards perform, and America votes. The winner of the votes makes the final 12. Additionally, each judge gets to pick 1 wildcard to also go to the final round. Last year, America's "wild card" pic was Clay Aiken.
02-19-04 | 07:49 PM
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Hey, if both singers aren't that great(I think everyone can agree on that), I rather look at a cute chick, than a fat balding guy with a so so singing voice.
ps. I don't think either have a chance on winning the thing.
ps. I don't think either have a chance on winning the thing.
Originally posted by waporvare
I'm not following you. Everytime Camile sings it looks like she smelled a fart. Very attractive...not!!
As for his looks, he's grunters type I'm sure and he can sing. Overall he was better than any of the other singers that night.
I'm not following you. Everytime Camile sings it looks like she smelled a fart. Very attractive...not!!
As for his looks, he's grunters type I'm sure and he can sing. Overall he was better than any of the other singers that night.
02-19-04 | 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Quake1028
Simon was on ET tonight and said he expects Matt and Fantasia in the finals. Dear God we are in trouble.
Simon was on ET tonight and said he expects Matt and Fantasia in the finals. Dear God we are in trouble.
02-19-04 | 10:20 PM
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lol...scorch, its hilarious how different we are in taste.
1. im a laker fan (actually, all LA teams except USC)
2. and i like fantasia...she was my favorite from day 1
1. im a laker fan (actually, all LA teams except USC)
2. and i like fantasia...she was my favorite from day 1
