after Alison turned her back on them and voted Jack out instead of Erika he wen't off in the back yard to Jee.

Saying............"those 3 whores this, those 3 sluts that....." that they didn't deserve to win and back stabbing and stuff.
He was basically just venting after being backstabbed by Alison.

Not saying I disagree with him, but I don't see how this hurts his chances to win.

Viewers don't vote, the jury is sequestered, so they won't see his comments, and the only person around was Jee.

I thought the jury was seeing everything but the diary room footage.

You're right, it won't hurt him. He has almost no chance of winning. Maybe he could beat Jun if he wins his way to the end or maybe against Jee. The wildcard if he makes the final against Jee or Jun is his daughter. Against someone the jury doesn't like and doesn't think played a great game, Robert's daughter could get him some important votes if they think about how much he could use it for his daughter. Everyone has loved ones, but a small child, especially a girl could tug on some heart-strings. None of this matters if Alison stays with the girls (which she really has to do for now) and doesn't use the veto. Because Robert will go next anyway if that's how it plays out. There are many surprises each time one of these types of shows air, but the biggest one this season for me, is how this creepy looking guy gets such hot women.

Can't blame Robert. Those girls can be some bitches especially Alison. Wait till she finds out her boyfriend kicks her to the curb.

no, they don't get to see any private conversations either. they only get to see the official ceremony type stuff.....

HoH competion, nomination ceremony, Veto compet, Veto ceremony, etc.... not sure about the food challenge and other challenges, but probably.

I don't think Ali is playing the game as well as Will did.

The brilliance of Will's strategy is that he set himself up to be the spoiler from day one. He went out of his way to be irritating and unlikable, but still slightly charming. He never actually screwed anyone over or betrayed anyone. He let everyone else screw each other and backstab until he was the lesser of two evils. Also, Will threw the HoH competitions so he wouldn't have to put anyone up for eviction. That saved him from a lot of ill will.

Ali's strategy seems to be to be to do anything she can to just keep herself in the house.

As it stands now, I think the only person in the house she will be able to beat in the final vote is Robert.

If the strategy of getting rid of the men stands, then it will be Erika and Jun trying to backstab each other to go up against Ali in the final vote.

I've just skimmed the past page, so pardon me if this has already been discussed... but does anyone know who's been nominated? I can't wait 'til Tuesday. ;)

On another board I read that it's:

My nominee predicitons: Robert and Jee

Even though Jun has the secret alliance with Jee, she's probably going to stick with the girls. Then they will pick Robert to go. This leaves Jun with her secret alliances with Jee and Alison which works in her favor.

Did Alison just say that her and Justin broke up two months before this show started? I thought that she was going out with the new guy for a while. I am sure that he was happy to hear Alison tell everyone that he comes from a dirt poor family as well...

Well, surprise of all surprises! I can't believe how the nominations went down. I don't know why Jun decided to put one person up (no spoiler necessary). What is the logic there? I was thinking WTF!

you do know who has the veto power right? think about when/if they use it who will get put up in thier place

Of course. That's why I don't understand why she put that person up.

Because it controls Allison.
That prevents her from doing anything "stupid" or joining Robert and Jee again if the game turns that way.
If Allison was not nominated and it was Robert and Jee and then Allison took one of them off with Veto, then Erika would have to go up (because Allison was POV holder).

Let's say she took Robert off.
Then the two voters (Robert and Allison) could vote off Erika instead of Jee if they wanted to.

This takes all the power away from Allison and eliminates any chance that the plan would go any other way than the way Jun has planned for this week.

Jun did the right thing given Allison's unpredictability in the game. Good move on Jun's part. Nobody trusts Allison anymore in that house, but she can be used if you know she acts always in self preservation mode.

Just pointing out I wrote a spoiler three days ago which revealed the nominations (which took place Sunday) and the reason why I thought Jun did it. Very smart on her part. It keeps her in control this week.

Does anyone think Allison won't use the POV??..What other choice does she have??..

This was a brilliant move by Jun..She's a lot smarter than she looks :)

Maybe i'm thinking this through too much, but Alison and Erika didn't seem too surprised. My guess is that Alison said something like "wouldn't it be hilarious to NOT nominate Robert, and then have me use the veto power on myself so you can nominate him later"? I'm thinking that Alison probably orchestrated this herself. Everyone knows (except Robert) knows that she'll use the veto. So, when she uses the veto, and Jun is forced to nominate Robert, then JUN will look like the bad guy, which all plays into Alison's hands..

Alison is devious enough but I've seen no indication of this on either the edited show or accounts of the live feeds I've read on the internet.

Besides, I just don't see how Alison could use this to make Jun the bad guy because Robert and Jee both expected to be sitting in the nominees' seats on Wednesday from the moment Jun won HOH. When Alison vetoes herself, Jun will put up Robert. I really think it was Jun's way of controlling Alison and keeping control of the round rather than letting it slip into Alison's treacherous hands.

Did everyone see Robert's reaction shots when he wasn't nominated? I suppose by now he has figured out he's going to be in one of the nominees' chairs tonight. He always seems to be a step or two behind the ladies brainwise. Probably the story of his life and why he hates them so much. :lol:

The only other thing I could see happening is Jun turning on Erika and nominating her instead of Robert because everyone sees her as a threat to win if she gets to the final two. But Jun, I'm sure, realizes that that move would probably work too much against her, putting her too much in the traitor, bad guy role.

BTW, does anyone else think the last two weeks of having the HOH know the veto holder before the nominations is a bad idea? I think it truly gives them too much power and makes it too easy for them. When the HOH does not know who will win the veto, his or her job is a lot harder.

My thoughts on why Jun nominated Alison vs. Robert is so that in the final voting, Robert will look back on this episode and remember that Jun didn't put him up (initially). Jun is working on a little goodwill with the judges. Robert may go up after Alison uses the POV, but the first choice is more telling about who Jun wanted out.

Yeah, I think it makes things much more boring.

I'm hoping that this is the case, that her plan all along has been to get Erika out, with Allison's veto de-powered... (with Jun's vote to break the tie between Robert and Allison). I don't give Jun that much credit, though.

Thanks for the explanation. I love how the announcer asks whether Allison will use the POV to save herself. Yeah, she's going to sacrifice herself. :)

We all know Robert was in shock but wasn't Allison? Jun didn't tell her she was planning to nominate her.

You don't know this.