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Old 04-03-03 | 09:13 AM
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I'm not really sure what the deal is with the cash, at first I thought it was just the amount but the way Vic went from overjoyed to somber kind of threw me off...


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I was also thinking about counterfeit money at first, but if it was, why would the Armenians continue to go about their business after one of their men was shot, if they knew that it was counterfeit? Also, Vic and Shane took some of the money to the Armenian's apartment, so they would have likely spotted the fake money then as well.
Well, if it were counterfeit, I don't think they would just leave stacks of fake bills lying around - they would still have to move it out of the area (even if it's just to hide it until they figure out what to do next). Also, I don't think Vic and Shane would have noticed any problems with the bills while they were at the Armenian's. At that point the cash was all wrapped up in bricks and I doubt they could really see much inside the package.
Old 04-03-03 | 09:51 AM
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Good point. Someone get Shawn Ryan's email address stat!
Old 04-03-03 | 12:28 PM
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the lyrics to "Overcome" seem to nicely sum up what the group was feeling at the time when they saw the $$:

Even now
The world is bleedin'
But feelin' just fine
All numb in our castle
Where we're always free to choose
Never free enough to find
I wish somethin' would break
Cuz we're runnin' out of time

And I am overcome
I am overcome
Holy water in my lungs
I am overcome
Old 04-03-03 | 01:37 PM
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I wonder if Claudette becomes captain, she knows that Dani wasn't responsible for the knife that killed Armadillo, if she can reinstate her, especially in light of what happened to Julien. Man, I can't wait for season 3. And I also can't wait for the dvd set of season 2. I'm really looking forward to some of the commentaries for the shows of this season. Especially the Armadillo ones.
Old 04-03-03 | 09:34 PM
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... ending the season with one of my favorite songs from my favorite band (who btw will be here in Atlanta in less than a month ... woohoo!).
Great song. Just downloaded it.
Old 04-03-03 | 09:35 PM
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I wonder if Claudette becomes captain, she knows that Dani wasn't responsible for the knife that killed Armadillo, if she can reinstate her, especially in light of what happened to Julien.
That's what I think will happen. She'll be after Vic and knows he caused Dani to lose her job.
Old 04-04-03 | 01:34 PM
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I had to resist looking in this thread until I was able to watch the final episode last night. What torture!

Phew. Now that it's all over I can't believe we have to wait until JANUARY(!?!?) for Season 3!! Dani getting fired was not expected and Aceveda winning the election was somewhat predicted, however the new power structure is definitely going to be interesting to behold.

My hypothesis is that Vic and the Strike Team will go somewhat straight from now on, not only b/c they have 2 enemies above them (Capt. Claudette & Councilman Aceveda) but they are set for life with the Money Train score and no longer need to put their necks out there for kickbacks. They can afford to do things by the book. Plus Vic will have more time and $$$ to try and patch up his really messed up marriage.

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Old 04-04-03 | 02:13 PM
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The thing that connects the strike team to the robbery is the injured Armenian in the hospital. Dutch will make the connection between the dead Armenians and the Armenian in the hospital with a gun shot wound. Maybe Claudett gets involved in questioning the injured Armenian and gets suspicious. Vic may have to get involved in the investigation since it looks gang related and has to talk with the Armenian. The Armenian could then recognize Vic's voice.
Old 04-04-03 | 02:15 PM
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The Armenian isn't in the hospital. They took him to a "back alley" doctor.

In a completely unrelated matter, I just remembered a plot point they introduced early in the season but never revisited: the civilian auditor's bulimia.
Old 04-04-03 | 04:09 PM
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I'm probably the only poster here who is happy they run so few episodes a year. I think the long wait in-between seasons and the lower number of epsiodes is exactly why this series is superior to all the other cop/law/crime dramas on tv. I cannot help but think most dramatic series on television would be much better if they focused on 8-12 episodes a year instead of 22.
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I'm probably the only poster here who is happy they run so few episodes a year. I think the long wait in-between seasons and the lower number of epsiodes is exactly why this series is superior to all the other cop/law/crime dramas on tv. I cannot help but think most dramatic series on television would be much better if they focused on 8-12 episodes a year instead of 22.
I agree. That's how they do it in Great Britain (there are only @ 20-30 episodes of Cracker, but they're uniformly excellent.) The pressure to put up 20+ eps per year results in a little too much filler, in too many cases. (See: Bauer, Kim.)
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Originally posted by Groucho
In a completely unrelated matter, I just remembered a plot point they introduced early in the season but never revisited: the civilian auditor's bulimia.
You think she has bulimia because she threw up once? Am I not remembering something? I don't recall any other mention of that at all.

If you'll remember she threw up after visiting the crime scene with the dead Arab. I took that to mean that she simply had seen her first dead body and was reacting to it.
Old 04-04-03 | 09:06 PM
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I don't remember anything about bulimia either, just her getting sick after a crime scene, as Boot referred to.
Old 04-04-03 | 09:06 PM
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whens the repeat showing? i forgot all about it was watching baseball
Old 04-04-03 | 11:48 PM
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Old 04-05-03 | 01:03 AM
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Regarding the Bulimia: Maybe I'm misremembering, but there was an episode where she was in the bathroom throwing up and Dutch almost catches her, and she acts all guilty. I seem to remember a discussion in this forum about it, so I doubt I'm the only one who interpreted it that way.
Old 04-05-03 | 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
Regarding the Bulimia: Maybe I'm misremembering, but there was an episode where she was in the bathroom throwing up and Dutch almost catches her, and she acts all guilty. I seem to remember a discussion in this forum about it, so I doubt I'm the only one who interpreted it that way.
Yeah, that was the one, and it was right after her being at the crime scene. I think her look of guilt was because she showed that she was obviously not very familiar with the dark side of the job performed by the very people she was judging.

I don't think there was any evidence to support that she had bulimia.
Old 04-05-03 | 10:39 AM
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I guess I've seen too much bad television drama that uses eating disorders as the "issue of the week."
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You guys are forgetting all the food they ate in the break room. Remember she really didn't want any, but Dutch pressured her into eating it, and then she tore into it. Not long after she was puking her guts out. I'm struggling to remember the flow of the episode myself, but I do have a memory of bulimia much like Groucho.

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Can anyone remember the exact episode?
Old 04-05-03 | 02:26 PM
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I watched all the episodes from the marathon and I don't remeber that. I remember her throwing up, but I thought it was from the crime scene she saw. My memory must be fading...
Old 04-05-03 | 03:49 PM
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Hmmm...I guess we'll have to wait for the season replay or the dvd set to confirm. I don't recall a break room scene like that at all.
Old 04-05-03 | 10:26 PM
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The feeling that I got when watching the money shot scene was that they were happy at first but then remembered that they were supposed to be the "good guys" and realized not only what they had done but the magnitude of it.

Something like that will never leave you even if you try to go straight and narrow again. Yes, they tend to operate outside the law but usually in reactive action to a situation to keep control of the streets.

This one was different because they instigated it themselves outside of their job.
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Rise, thread!

I just had myself a Shield S2 marathon, and I was also puzzled by the look on the Strike Team's faces at the very end... but the fact that it's hit them about how criminal they've become makes sense.

As far as the whole bulimia angle with Lainey/Lainie Kellis... I agree, and I'll even throw in more evidence. Before we hear her puking and see her using the breath spray as people have brought up above, she and Dutch went to the parking office in the episode in which the meter maid got shot. Lainey excuses herself to go to the bathroom and Dutch is trying to get the guy to drop his ticket. Lainey exits the bathroom and uses her breath spray. Why would you use breath spray if all you had to do was take a number one or a number two? I thought it was odd that she used breath spray there, and when she repeated her behavior after she puked, it fell into place. Combine that with the scene of her pigging out on the cookies or whatever, and it makes sense.

I also thought that Dutch had an idea about it when he asked her out to dinner. The only thing I didn't know is how the show would explore it without becoming an after-school special. Perhaps it was just intended for us to see that Lainey had her problems, too?


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