madara

Any of these superman origins also have Lex as childhood friend instead of like Superman movie? Clark goes around without glass in this version, he have totally mutate as superman to even begin giving audience very minium benefit of doubt.

lwhy?

In the comics when John Bryne wrote the new origin of Superman in the 80s Clark was a big football star in Smallville and only wore the glasses when he moved to metropolis.

Patman

Could someone translate the above post?

lwhy?

I am talking about the old ones from back in the day not the crappy clone of Superman during the whole crappy Death of Superman storyline. I am talking about the ones from the 60s to 70s I think I might have to check my collection for the one I am talking about.

lwhy?

In the 1980s DC began to think that their continuity was really messed. They hired John Bryne to write a new story of origin on Superman and this one had Clark Kent as an All-City football player and he only wore the glasses when he moved to Metropolis. Esentially Bryne retold the superman story to make it more modern.

Patman

Dude, I've been reading Superman comics since the mid-70s, I'm aware of the pre-crisis Superman/Superboy mythos, and the revamp in 1986 by Byrne.

The post in question was just poorly worded, thus my request for clarification.

elias

Not to belabor the comic book discussion but:

In pre-crisis continuity Clark told Lana his secret & Pete found out but never told Clark. Back then Clark was Superboy, he'd put on the costume and fly around town being a superhero. In this time period, Lex Luthor was a friend of Superboy's (not Clark's) until a fire broke out in his laboratory and Superboy blew the fire out with his super-breath, causing fumes from Lex's chemicals to waft over Luthor and cause his hair to fall out. Luthor felt that Superboy did it intentionally because he was jealous and forever held a grudge. (I hear the laughter already, but give them a break it was the 50's!).

Patman

Yep, that was the origin of Lex's hatred for Superboy/Superman pre-crisis.

Rogue588

Quote:

Originally posted by Rogue588
You talking bout the most recent Superboy series? Or PRE-Crisis DCU?

Quote:

Originally posted by Patman
The post in question was just poorly worded, thus my request for clarification.

I don't know, it seems pretty straight forward to me...

BT

Pardon the ignorant question, but in the comics, does Lex really have a younger brother? (Lucas) Just curious.

-BT

Exzavier00

Is there a spot for the Octaginal Disc in the caves??
I thought they showed one in the episode with the native american girl and it was Lex who saw it.

I tried asking this in last weeks thread but no1 answered.

BT

Yes, there is a spot for the disc on one of the walls in the cave. Iirc, they haven't shown it since that first episode with the native american girl.


-BT

calhoun07

Hey, what about the physics in this episode. Pete and Chloe go over a cliff and Clark winds up at the bottom to catch the car in what COULD be a good scene, but it totally blows when the car is all vertical and Clark stands there holding it up by the front bumper. Now, why didn't Pete and Chloe go smashing thru the windshield when they hit Clark? If you hit the ground from that height, or if you hit Clark, guess what? The car still stops either way and the objects (people in this instance) will go crashing thru the windshield. Or I guess that when Pete and Chloe went out on their feats of death defying stupidity, they put on seat belts.

lwhy?

Not that I know of but, I love the name Lucas just has a wonderful ring too it. Maybe because it's my first name. I think they are starting to use the name Luke and Lucas too much on tv. It used to be a seldom used name but oh well. I don't really give a crap about physics they pulled the same stuff in some of the Superman movies and they do the same thing in the comics. Its tv its not real deal with it.

mikehunt

can you fly?
I'm not a cartoon character

lwhy?

Let me rephrase that I don't like to hear people complaining about physics and how real something is on tv. Tv is entertainment and supposed to entertain. It is made up. Just sit back and watch. It is a show about a boy who is bulletproof can leap tall buildings in a single bound(almost) and can lifts many many many times his body weight. Would that not defy many laws? I think so. It is a show enjoy it if you don't like how they present it don't watch it.

Chew

I have to agree that this was just a retread of the much better "Red".

But, it is pushing the cave backstory forward and it looks like that's going to be an extremely important place for Clark to find out about his past. Begs the question about if/when Kryptonians were on Earth at some point.

elias

Yes it does somewhat advace the cave subplot, or at least set up the advance of the cave subplot but what it does is back up the basic characterization of the leads.

We were already at the point where Clark & Lana get close, Clark ruins it via Red K, Relationship takes 10 steps back, Clark has to repair relationship. This has happened enough on this series already.

The onther problem I have is that I'm not sure I like where the cave backstory is going!

calhoun07

How's the view from the horse up there?

You know, I am going to go ahead and take this post personally since it follows my post questioning the physics of Clark catching the car. I suspend quite a bit of my belief in reality and accept quite implausible things in many, many TV shows and movies. Just because I have a nit pick every now and then doesn't mean I should or will stop watching, so don't tell me what to watch or what not to watch if you don't like a nit pick. If you don't like nit picks, then don't read message boards. The bottom line in that sequence, I can buy the idea that Clark is all that, but Chloe and Pete are NOT. Hell, I would have even bought it if they just fell and hit the dash board, they didn't have to fall out of the car and die. They just sat there pointing at Clark and didn't even get jarred at all by the impact of hitting Clark. What is wrong with asking about that? If you don't like my question, then move on to the next thread. If you have something constructive to add, then please reply.

lwhy?

You nit pick alot many many times. You sometimes leave rude replys too. You need an attitude adjustment. Maybe you're having a bad year. Don't take it out on other people. You like to pick on newbies too. Bye the way, The view is very very nice up on my high horse.

lwhy?

One more thing one of the smallville threads went into a page or two discussing physics. Let's just talk about the characters and the presentation of the show. Science is suspend on most scifi shows.

Original Desmond

i'm surprised no one mentioned this!

what about Chloe's line in the cave

your the Cunning Linguist !

i couldn't believe my ears, what a line for a family tv show !

Patman

Considering all of the grisly forms of death on this show, I would not consider it family viewing.

clemente

And the lollypop sure had some other implications......and yes, Bad Chloe rocks!

CaptainMarvel

A) That's a silly thing to say... science, for the most part, isn't affected at all on the shows. We still expect gravity to work, for example. If Chloe started flying, absent some explanation for it, you're saying you wouldn't have a problem? When the shows do bend the laws of physics (or break them), they should be able to explain why. (Here, I think there was an explanation... Clark didn't catch them stiff armed... he had some give in his catch. Think about catching an egg... if you just stick your hand in the air and don't move it, the egg will splatter. If you catch it with some give, it should be okay. The real question, to me, was "Why wasn't Clark driven into the ground like a nail when the force from the car transferred to him?").

B) Who are you to try and direct the flow of the conversation? The physics involved in any given episode are entirelly appropriate to discuss in the thread for that particular episode.