Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
10-21-20 | 01:12 PM
#177
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
When you realize YouTube is the true competitor to Quibi (and not Netflix or Hulu)...
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ddrknghtrtns (10-22-20)
10-21-20 | 01:15 PM
#178
DVD Talk Legend
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
File this under least shocking news I've heard today.
How they were even able to get funding still boggles my mind.
How they were even able to get funding still boggles my mind.
10-21-20 | 01:36 PM
#179
DVD Talk God
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
I would say they were genuinely fucked by the timing of the release of it. Maybe had they released last year and got some traction, they could have survived the pandemic. Not being able to quickly adapt to have home apps also fucked them.
10-21-20 | 01:37 PM
#180
DVD Talk Legend
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Wasn't not having home apps specifically part of their business model?
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Jay G. (10-21-20)
10-21-20 | 02:05 PM
#181
DVD Talk Godfather
10-21-20 | 02:15 PM
#182
DVD Talk God
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
10-21-20 | 02:16 PM
#183
Thread Starter
DVD Talk God
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Quibi greenlit 2nd seasons for a number of their shows. I have to imagine that production for all of them are going to be paused or cancelled.
I do hope some of the content gets sold like The Fugitive and Most Dangerous game.
I do hope some of the content gets sold like The Fugitive and Most Dangerous game.
10-21-20 | 03:11 PM
#184
Thread Starter
DVD Talk God
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Update. They aren't considering shutting down, they are shutting down
https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/21/...end-katzenberg
Quibi has about 200 staff. Feel bad for them. They left whatever stable gigs they had and are soon going to be out of work in a pandemic.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/21/...end-katzenberg
Quibi has about 200 staff. Feel bad for them. They left whatever stable gigs they had and are soon going to be out of work in a pandemic.
10-21-20 | 03:11 PM
#185
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Seems like it is definitely happening. Not just considering.
https://deadline.com/2020/10/quibi-t...4JrRJRL28XeCXI
https://deadline.com/2020/10/quibi-t...4JrRJRL28XeCXI
10-21-20 | 03:12 PM
#186
DVD Talk Hero
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Yep. So I get what they were going for, but they launched in a year without commuting, so this is the expected outcome.
Oh who am I kidding, erase that entire line except the last 5 words.
Oh who am I kidding, erase that entire line except the last 5 words.
10-21-20 | 03:44 PM
#187
Banned
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
No surprises here. Probably mentioned it myself earlier in this thread how this was DOA. And right now I was watching the episode from John Oliver from 3 weeks ago where he made a quick joke of how Quibi was a bad idea.
I guess the shows will probably be sold to other streaming networks but I wonder if they’ll recut them to 30min- hour episodes. One of tge things I saw during the Quibi trial is how many of these shows just felt like they were forcibly cut to fit in 10 minutes but that they mist have filmed them as hour long shows
I guess the shows will probably be sold to other streaming networks but I wonder if they’ll recut them to 30min- hour episodes. One of tge things I saw during the Quibi trial is how many of these shows just felt like they were forcibly cut to fit in 10 minutes but that they mist have filmed them as hour long shows
10-21-20 | 03:47 PM
#188
Banned
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Is this true?
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Jay G. (10-21-20)
10-21-20 | 03:47 PM
#189
Thread Starter
DVD Talk God
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
No surprises here. Probably mentioned it myself earlier in this thread how this was DOA. And right now I was watching the episode from John Oliver from 3 weeks ago where he made a quick joke of how Quibi was a bad idea.
I guess the shows will probably be sold to other streaming networks but I wonder if they’ll recut them to 30min- hour episodes. One of tge things I saw during the Quibi trial is how many of these shows just felt like they were forcibly cut to fit in 10 minutes but that they mist have filmed them as hour long shows
I guess the shows will probably be sold to other streaming networks but I wonder if they’ll recut them to 30min- hour episodes. One of tge things I saw during the Quibi trial is how many of these shows just felt like they were forcibly cut to fit in 10 minutes but that they mist have filmed them as hour long shows
10-21-20 | 04:05 PM
#190
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Alan Smithee (10-22-20)
10-21-20 | 06:52 PM
#192
DVD Talk Legend
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Yes, there were accusations back in March:
https://www.cracked.com/article_2745...ute-trash.html
An article in August went more in-depth:
https://www.inputmag.com/culture/exc...ts-shows-crews
https://www.cracked.com/article_2745...ute-trash.html
An article in August went more in-depth:
https://www.inputmag.com/culture/exc...ts-shows-crews
Input spoke to nine people knowledgeable about wage rates in multiple departments across several Quibi productions. Few said they were able to negotiate rates, and those who found it possible had varying levels of success. All sources were initially quoted union minimum/tier-zero to "movie of the week" rates. Of the final 10 rates shared with us, crew members were paid an approximate average of $10/hr less than they were entitled to under their Locals’ wage scales.
This pervasive wage theft is all above board because the rates are only based on a program’s first exhibition, and the basic agreement’s language left the door open for exploitation....
A year before getting dissolved into the NBCUniversal machine, DreamWorks is listed as an AMPTP member for the last time in an IATSE basic agreement. In that contract’s New Media sideletter, this language appears for the first time: “Programs less than 20 minutes are not considered 'high budget' for the purpose of this Sideletter, regardless of their budgets.”
By the next agreement in 2018, New Media officially entered the fold, no longer siloed off from other kinds of productions...The language tying program lengths to budgets carried over and also applied to a new segment of “mid-budget SVOD (subscription video on demand).” Both mid-budget and high budget designations require programs to fall between 20–35 minutes, 36–65 minutes, 66–95 minutes, and 96 minutes and more....The new mid-budget option had good intentions: to catch some of the work excluded by the high budget language of 2015. It also explicitly made crew rates for programs shorter than 20 minutes “freely negotiable.”..
“We’re not asking people to tell 10-minute stories; we’re asking them to tell two- to four-hour stories,” said Katzenberg reportedly said at a Variety conference, according to Digiday...
This pervasive wage theft is all above board because the rates are only based on a program’s first exhibition, and the basic agreement’s language left the door open for exploitation....
A year before getting dissolved into the NBCUniversal machine, DreamWorks is listed as an AMPTP member for the last time in an IATSE basic agreement. In that contract’s New Media sideletter, this language appears for the first time: “Programs less than 20 minutes are not considered 'high budget' for the purpose of this Sideletter, regardless of their budgets.”
By the next agreement in 2018, New Media officially entered the fold, no longer siloed off from other kinds of productions...The language tying program lengths to budgets carried over and also applied to a new segment of “mid-budget SVOD (subscription video on demand).” Both mid-budget and high budget designations require programs to fall between 20–35 minutes, 36–65 minutes, 66–95 minutes, and 96 minutes and more....The new mid-budget option had good intentions: to catch some of the work excluded by the high budget language of 2015. It also explicitly made crew rates for programs shorter than 20 minutes “freely negotiable.”..
“We’re not asking people to tell 10-minute stories; we’re asking them to tell two- to four-hour stories,” said Katzenberg reportedly said at a Variety conference, according to Digiday...
10-22-20 | 01:10 AM
#193
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Bwa ha ha! I got a note from T-Mobile Tuesdays that their reward for the week was a few months of it for free, but I didn’t qualify since I had already done their shorter trial earlier. I would’ve gotten it if I could, but likely wouldn’t have watched it unless they came up with a Roku app. Limiting viewing to phones was just a bad idea even for the general public. I hardly even watch short YouTube videos on my phone unless it’s the sort of thing I have to see right away- if it’s worth watching then it goes on the big screen and sound system.
10-22-20 | 08:18 AM
#194
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Exclusive Q&A: Katzenberg & Whitman On Their Decision To Shut Down Quibi
https://deadline.com/2020/10/quibi-s...ve-1234601254/
https://deadline.com/2020/10/quibi-s...ve-1234601254/
10-22-20 | 08:23 AM
#195
DVD Talk Legend
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Interviewer: Why are you shutting down Quibi?
Quibi folk: Our business model was dog shit and we hemorrhaged billions of dollars with hardly any income!
Interviewer: Thanks! This has an in depth look on what went wrong at Quibi; thanks for reading.
Fin
Quibi folk: Our business model was dog shit and we hemorrhaged billions of dollars with hardly any income!
Interviewer: Thanks! This has an in depth look on what went wrong at Quibi; thanks for reading.
Fin
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Alan Smithee (10-22-20)
10-22-20 | 08:54 AM
#196
DVD Talk Legend
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Exclusive Q&A: Katzenberg & Whitman On Their Decision To Shut Down Quibi
https://deadline.com/2020/10/quibi-s...ve-1234601254/
https://deadline.com/2020/10/quibi-s...ve-1234601254/
KATZENBERG: Remember, we have 28 movies that are in the can here and that are I think really, really strong movies and titles with the biggest stars and incredible talent with them that are really great marquee shows. We have 28 movies available at a moment in time in which you know, there seem to be many platforms that are looking for content because of the impact of COVID.
Also from the interview: all production is "paused". So those renewed shows may not get a second season.
10-22-20 | 09:10 AM
#197
DVD Talk Hero
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
A dumb idea that died a deserved death. Anyone who invested money in this is an idiot.
10-22-20 | 09:12 AM
#198
DVD Talk Legend
10-28-20 | 07:28 PM
#200
re: Quibi Streaming service - RIP 4/6/20 - 12/1/20
Are there still free trial promos available? The app doesn’t even let me log in anymore as a non-sub.