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Old 12-26-23 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dex14
Standalone already exists.
ah, so it does, for Prime Video.

no standalone option for shipping alone, though that’s a different topic unrelated to streaming.
Old 12-26-23 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
I pay yearly and it’s a business expense for me. And I do watch Freevee shows like Leverage and Bosch Legacy and the commercials don’t bother me. They are at most 60 to 70 seconds.
I'm curious how you justify writing off Amazon Prime to the IRS, considering that most of the benefit of Prime is obviously personal, like Prime Video, Amazon Pharmacy, and Groceries. It isn't like AWS, which is rather clearly business.

When I watched Bosch: Legacy only the first one or two commercials were about a minute. There were usually at least 2 3-minute commercial segments per episode. Quite annoying, and it really angers me that a paid service like Prime Video is essentially becoming FreeVee. Even worse, paying this new fee (which will surely increase at an astonishing rate, on top of Prime itself which has gotten much more expensive in recent years to pay for an NFL deal I don't care about or watch) for commercial-free Prime Video still doesn't get us commercial-free FreeVee.
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Old 12-26-23 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by randian
I'm curious how you justify writing off Amazon Prime to the IRS, considering that most of the benefit of Prime is obviously personal, like Prime Video, Amazon Pharmacy, and Groceries.
The "free" shipping probably.

Technically, you're supposed to figure out how much was used for business vs personal, and deduct just that portion. Prime is odd though, since you can't get just the 2-day shipping, so the other parts could be considered free "perks" included in the fee.
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Old 12-26-23 | 09:22 PM
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I got the email:

Dear Prime member,

We are writing to you today about an upcoming change to your Prime Video experience. Starting January 29, Prime Video movies and TV shows will include limited advertisements. This will allow us to continue investing in compelling content and keep increasing that investment over a long period of time. We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers. No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership. We will also offer a new ad-free option for an additional $2.99 per month* that you can sign up for here.

Prime is a very compelling value. Prime members enjoy a wide range of shopping, savings, and entertainment benefits, including:
  • More than 300 million items are available with free Prime shipping and tens of millions of the most popular items are available with free Same-Day or One-Day Delivery.
  • Access to exclusive and broad streaming video content (including Prime Video exclusives like The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, The Boys, Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan, Citadel, The Wheel of Time, Reacher, and The Summer I Turned Pretty, as well as blockbuster movies such as Air, Creed III, Dungeons & Dragons, Candy Cane Lane with Eddie Murphy, and exclusive live sports including NFL Thursday Night Football).
  • Access to Prime Video Channels, which provides an unmatched selection of subscription channels like Max, Paramount+ with SHOWTIME, BET+, MGM+, ViX+, Crunchyroll, PBS KIDS, NBA League Pass, MLB.TV, and STARZ—with no extra apps to download, and no cable required. Customers only pay for the ones they want, and can cancel anytime.
  • The ability to use your Prime shopping benefits—like fast, free delivery, a seamless checkout experience, 24/7 live chat support, and hassle-free returns—on online stores beyond Amazon.com with Buy with Prime.
  • Exclusive deals and shopping events like Prime Day.
  • Ad-free listening of 100 million songs and millions of podcast episodes with Amazon Music.
  • Prescription medications as low as $1 per month and fast, free shipping from Amazon Pharmacy.
  • Access to unlimited eligible generic prescription medications for only $5 per month (including free shipping) with RxPass from Amazon Pharmacy.
  • High-quality health care from One Medical for only $9 per month (or $99 annually), with the option to add up to five additional memberships for the family for only $6 per month (or $66 annually) each.
  • Free two-hour Fresh grocery delivery on orders over $100 (and delivery charges between $6.95 to $9.95 for orders less than $100), and in-store savings on select groceries at Amazon Fresh and Whole Foods Market stores across the U.S.
  • Unlimited photo storage with Amazon Photos.
  • Gaming benefits with Prime Gaming.
  • More than 3,000 books and magazines with Prime Reading.
  • A free, one-year Grubhub+ membership trial valued at $120 per year, offering unlimited $0 delivery fees on orders over $12.
And, you can expect additional features and programs added in the future for our Prime members.

As mentioned above, no action is required from you. If you wish to sign up for the ad-free option, you can click here. And, as always, if you have questions about your Prime membership, you can manage your account here.

Thank you for being a valued member of Amazon Prime.

Sincerely,
The Amazon Prime team

*Live event content such as sports, and content offered through Amazon Freevee will continue to include advertising


Old 12-26-23 | 09:26 PM
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Re: The Amazon Prime Streaming Thread

Originally Posted by randian
I'm curious how you justify writing off Amazon Prime to the IRS, considering that most of the benefit of Prime is obviously personal, like Prime Video, Amazon Pharmacy, and Groceries. It isn't like AWS, which is rather clearly business.

When I watched Bosch: Legacy only the first one or two commercials were about a minute. There were usually at least 2 3-minute commercial segments per episode. Quite annoying, and it really angers me that a paid service like Prime Video is essentially becoming FreeVee. Even worse, paying this new fee (which will surely increase at an astonishing rate, on top of Prime itself which has gotten much more expensive in recent years to pay for an NFL deal I don't care about or watch) for commercial-free Prime Video still doesn't get us commercial-free FreeVee.
Yes the free shipping for ordering supplies for work. I also work in sports entertainment and work part time for the NFL.

Prime Video and FreeVee are two completely separate businesses with separate budgets and different streams of revenue. Paying for Prime video doesn’t entitle you to the same perks for a separate business. Even though they are owned by the same company. It’s like CBS and Paramount ,while under the same corporation, are two completely different businesses.
Old 12-27-23 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
Technically, you're supposed to figure out how much was used for business vs personal, and deduct just that portion.
If you're going to do that is the business fraction based on order count or order value? Just thinking out loud. Certainly easier to just take the write-off in full and and hope the auditor doesn't doesn't ask about it.
Old 12-27-23 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by randian
If you're going to do that is the business fraction based on order count or order value? Just thinking out loud. Certainly easier to just take the write-off in full and and hope the auditor doesn't doesn't ask about it.
You don't have to over-think this. This is a perfectly legal deduction for those in the entertainment industry profession. I've been part of it for 26 years and counting. Alright enough of the tax laws stuff.

Now back to you all being angry about streaming commercials.
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Old 12-27-23 | 08:15 AM
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Got the email about ads coming to Prime Video too. Kind of a bummer but I don’t use the service that much to justify paying for no ads.
Old 12-27-23 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan
ah, so it does, for Prime Video.

no standalone option for shipping alone, though that’s a different topic unrelated to streaming.
Way off topic here, but
Amazon Business Prime Amazon Business Prime
is sort of a standalone shipping version of Prime (it does not include Prime Video), though it is more expensive than regular Prime because of the business features it includes.
Old 12-27-23 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike86
Got the email about ads coming to Prime Video too. Kind of a bummer but I don’t use the service that much to justify paying for no ads.
I use it all the time, so I am boned.
Old 12-30-23 | 03:38 PM
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I've gotten used to watching TV without commercials. I tried watching Bosch: Legacy but the commercials put me off. I'd cancel Amazon Prime but you don't get a prorated refund so I'll wait until August. I live in a small town and buy most stuff that's not groceries from Amazon but it's pretty easy to get to $35 or whatever to get free shipping. I'll put the $139 a year to Britbox or something that's ad-free.
Old 12-30-23 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DeFan
I've gotten used to watching TV without commercials. I tried watching Bosch: Legacy but the commercials put me off. I'd cancel Amazon Prime but you don't get a prorated refund so I'll wait until August. I live in a small town and buy most stuff that's not groceries from Amazon but it's pretty easy to get to $35 or whatever to get free shipping. I'll put the $139 a year to Britbox or something that's ad-free.
Amazon has not yet started the Prime Video ads. Bosch: Legacy is on Freevee which is ad supported no matter what. Even paying the $2.99 upgrade for ad free Prime Video won't remove the ads on Freevee titles. Or the ads from Thursday Night Football and other live sports.
Old 12-30-23 | 04:28 PM
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This starts Feb 5th, in Canada.

It feels like this is a fundamental change to something I've already paid for, considering my current membership isn't up until July. I don't doubt they have ensured it's legal, based on wording in the terms of service, or something, but it stinks.

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Old 12-30-23 | 09:01 PM
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I guess Jeff Bozos needs another trip to the moon or something.
Old 01-01-24 | 12:35 AM
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I'm a pessimist when it comes to streaming. Amazon Prime is going to become FreeVee so why bother to subscribe. Netflix keeps upping the rate for ad-free. Roku is pushing their Live TV but I had to watch (and not listen) to 10 minutes of commercials to see the ball drop at Times Square. Then it was so poorly filmed that it didn't even look like the ball dropping.

I'm also mad about Amazon changing the rules halfway through my subscription but it's money down the drain that can be corrected when I don't renew.
Old 01-01-24 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DeFan
I'm a pessimist when it comes to streaming. Amazon Prime is going to become FreeVee so why bother to subscribe. Netflix keeps upping the rate for ad-free. Roku is pushing their Live TV but I had to watch (and not listen) to 10 minutes of commercials to see the ball drop at Times Square. Then it was so poorly filmed that it didn't even look like the ball dropping.

I'm also mad about Amazon changing the rules halfway through my subscription but it's money down the drain that can be corrected when I don't renew.
We were watching the ball drop on cable, and the station that was broadcasting it had commercials until about 2-3 minutes before midnight. I've seriously had enough of this shit. If it wasn't for wanting to watch hockey, I'd ditch cable, but the way streaming services are going, it's probably going to be the same shit...

Agreed about Amazon. It just feels wrong...

Old 01-03-24 | 12:20 PM
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I hope the ads aren’t as bad as paramounts. Their ads of late have been awfully long, and he just watched the halo series and about half the episodes had 60-90 sec ads play when there was 30 seconds left of the show left before credits.
Old 01-03-24 | 01:05 PM
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I can't imagine the ad network will be that much different from Freevee so try that out if you want to see what it'll be like (at least to start, like youtube it will become worse and worse over time)
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I hope the ads aren’t as bad as paramounts. Their ads of late have been awfully long, and he just watched the halo series and about half the episodes had 60-90 sec ads play when there was 30 seconds left of the show left before credits.
Paramount is terrible. When I had the ad-supported tier the amount of commercials I saw rivaled network TV.
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I hope the ads aren’t as bad as paramounts. Their ads of late have been awfully long, and he just watched the halo series and about half the episodes had 60-90 sec ads play when there was 30 seconds left of the show left before credits.
"starting in early 2024, Prime Video shows and movies will include limited advertisements. We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers."
https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/ent...es-limited-ads
Old 01-05-24 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBang
"starting in early 2024, Prime Video shows and movies will include limited advertisements. We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers."
https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/ent...es-limited-ads
We can only hope. Yet I suspect it will start out that way and then grow over time.
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Old 01-07-24 | 08:29 PM
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They'll keep slowly increasing ad time until they see a net profit loss in total subscribers. Losing cheaper and/or poorer subscribers is almost a bonus on some level - fewer server expenses.

Amazon has picked up many of the executives who ran Costco for years. Once you know that, you know what you're dealing with and where Amazon is headed.
Old 01-07-24 | 08:31 PM
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They'll keep slowly increasing ad time until they see a net profit loss in total subscribers. Losing cheaper and/or poorer subscribers is almost a bonus on some level - fewer server expenses.

Amazon has picked up many of the executives who ran Costco for years. Once you know that, you know what you're dealing with and where Amazon is headed.

Whats wrong with Costco?
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As you navigate out of the app, some guy will stop you and try to sell you solar.
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Old 01-08-24 | 08:37 AM
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Yeah, I was trying to think how Costco started nickel and diming people but I'm not aware of anything besides maybe restricting food court access to members?

Bottom line is that it started as an add on to their shipping services, they started spending a lot of money on it to make it a standalone service (which I wasn't even aware of for the longest time) and now they are removing the "perks" of the automatic inclusion on their shipping service. I guess they assume for most people that have Prime, another 36 a year increase was going to lose them more subscriptions then doing this (or they wanted a better trained ad network).


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