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Old 02-12-21, 08:47 AM
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No Pat Benatar
She's clearly deserving. I think they must curate the list a bit. In the same way that The Cure, The Smiths and Depeche Mode have alternated nominations but never appeared on the ballot together, I bet they don't want Pat Benatar and The Go Go's competing against each other.
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Where is George Michael? If Whitney Houston is in, he definitely deserves to be in.
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Don't quite know how the fan vote figures into everything (and FWIW Fela Kuti is running away with the fan vote, so that feels a little manufactured). Anyways, here's the link :

https://vote.rockhall.com/
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What happened to Pat Benator?

She was huge in the 80's and you would think she would have had hits in the 90's and beyond but disappeared.
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Damn, the Dolls and Maiden should have already been in by now.

Originally Posted by cdollaz
The Hall isn't fond of metal bands.


(but your statement is true)
Old 02-17-21, 01:46 PM
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Re: 2021 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees

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Don't quite know how the fan vote figures into everything (and FWIW Fela Kuti is running away with the fan vote, so that feels a little manufactured). Anyways, here's the link :

https://vote.rockhall.com/
The fan vote counts as one ballot.

So of the 1000 or so ballots cast:
  • 999 are from industry types & current inductees
  • 1 is from the fan vote.

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The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame reveals its 2021 Inductees, celebrating the most diverse list of Inductees in the history of the organization. They are:

Performer Category:
Tina Turner
Carole King
The Go-Go’s
JAY-Z
Foo Fighters
Todd Rundgren

Early Influence Award:
Kraftwerk
Charley Patton
Gil Scott-Heron

Musical Excellence Award:
LL Cool J
Billy Preston
Randy Rhoads

Ahmet Ertegun Award:
Clarence Avant
Old 05-12-21, 08:24 AM
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Yay Go-Go's! Guess my sister will be going to Cleveland for the ceremony.
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Man, those voters sure hate Heavy Metal.

Iron Maiden is a no-brainer. One of the greatest bands of all time, musical excellence, huge influence, and massive success worldwide - even 40 years later, selling out arenas, amphitheaters, and even stadiums.

What a joke.
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They're definitely biased against it, that's for sure.

I mean, I'm a punk fan, and remember many arguments in high school with the mostly metal-loving kids about which genre is "better", and I do chuckle that the HoF has definitely embraced punk far more than it has metal. But even a person who dislikes heavy metal like myself can tell that it was an influential genre that still has a large following and absolutely belongs in any "Hall of Fame".
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Todd Rundgren inducted as a performer? He's had, what, one hit in his life?

I understood he was very influential as a producer and assumed he'd get inducted for his influence in that regard ... but as a performer, I just don't see it.

And let's be honest, Tina Turner only needed to be inducted once. Sure it's unfortunate it was with Ike, but she (much like Stevie Nicks last year) really doesn't have such a huge body of solo success that would warrant a second induction. Keep those for people like Paul McCartney, Paul Simon, Eric Clapton or Sting (still not inducted as a solo artist). People with massive solo careers separate from their previous successes.
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^ I thought Ringo Starr as a solo artist was pushing it a bit too...
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Rundgren has basically said he doesn't really care about the HOF and probably wouldn't show up. Guess we'll see what happens.

I know more of Tina Turner's solo music than with Ike. I think her solo career is worthy of getting in. Maybe Beyond Thunderdome puts her over the top. This could possibly end up being her last performance ever if she does perform.

I'd rank her solo career well above Stevie Nicks. I think some other worthy solo careers that I'd rank above Stevie Nicks are Sting, Phil Collins, and Don Henley (they're probably not as iconic as Stevie though). George Michael too, but Wham's not even in there.

I'm still waiting for Meat Loaf.


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Who would have thought that a member of the Germs would be in the RNR Hall of Fame.
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Who would have thought that a member of the Germs would be in the RNR Hall of Fame.
Three members of the Germs.

Spoiler:
Belinda Carlisle was the very first drummer, Charlotte Caffey played guitar in the most recent incarnation of the band

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I'd rank her solo career well above Stevie Nicks. I think some other worthy solo careers that I'd rank above Stevie Nicks are Sting, Phil Collins, and Don Henley (they're probably not as iconic as Stevie though). George Michael too, but Wham's not even in there.
Yeah... I think that solo acts who are already in as a part of a band, for the most part, just seem to be eating up precious slots for other acts who deserve to be there.

I'd say that they should probably only induct solo acts who are already in as part of a group if their solo career overshadowed the contributions to the group.

Which would include people like Eric Clapton and Ozzy Osbourne, and exclude others like Stevie Nicks and Paul McCartney whose solo work just seemed like they were riding the coattails of their famous band, or were just extensions of those bands.

Some, like Phil Collins and Don Henley, are kind of borderline, though I don't think Don Henley's solo career is anywhere near his contribution with The Eagles.

I look at the solo careers of Nicks and McCartney and Collins, and their solo stuff is generally indistinguishable from what they did with Fleetwood Mac or the Beatles or Genesis.
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JAY-Z had the lowest of the fan votes btw.
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Inducting the Foo Fighters is a joke. Generic mock rock at its best. So many other far more influential acts deserved a spot first.
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Every year when I get pissed about these bullshit inductees, I tell myself to just stop caring. It works until the next year comes and I get angry again.
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Inducting the Foo Fighters is a joke. Generic mock rock at its best. So many other far more influential acts deserved a spot first.
I like the Foo Fighters. Who are they mocking btw? But I agree others deserve being there before they do. Pat Benatar being one of them.
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Of course Foo Fighters are going to get right in.

Dave Grohl has been at, like, every single ceremony for the past ten years, hasn't he?
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You know, at the end of the day, who cares? I don't plan on visiting the RnRHoF anytime soon, and it's not like the name "Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Inductee xxxxxx" makes me any more or less likely to see a band or buy their music.

There will be artists overlooked, and artists who don't deserve it.

But what we DO get is an HBO special with live performances, and I'll be tuning in. Foo Fighters? No biggie, they're still touring and gigging regularly, that won't be very interesting. But I'll damn sure be watching the Go-Go's live performance, several times. A few years ago we got a live show with the remaining members of The Cars, and Ric Ocasek wouldn't be alive much longer. That performance was the last time we got to see him, and I was glad for it (even if it wasn't the most animated). So for all the controversy, enjoy it for what it is.
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You know, at the end of the day, who cares? I don't plan on visiting the RnRHoF anytime soon, and it's not like the name "Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Inductee xxxxxx" makes me any more or less likely to see a band or buy their music.

There will be artists overlooked, and artists who don't deserve it.

But what we DO get is an HBO special with live performances, and I'll be tuning in. Foo Fighters? No biggie, they're still touring and gigging regularly, that won't be very interesting. But I'll damn sure be watching the Go-Go's live performance, several times. A few years ago we got a live show with the remaining members of The Cars, and Ric Ocasek wouldn't be alive much longer. That performance was the last time we got to see him, and I was glad for it (even if it wasn't the most animated). So for all the controversy, enjoy it for what it is.
Agree with everything you say here. BTW, I saw that same Cars tour back in 2011. It was fantastic. My third time seeing them live. The other two times were in 1979 and sometime in the 80's. They never were the most animated band. Also, Ocasek did live another 8 years after this last tour. I don't think most knew he was 75 years old when he passed. I know I didn't. Thought he was late 60's. Here's that last show at the Electric Factory in Philadelphia.

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Of course Foo Fighters are going to get right in.

Dave Grohl has been at, like, every single ceremony for the past ten years, hasn't he?
He's on the nominating committee.
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In all seriousness, in what reality would The Foo Fighters not get right in? They are the last huge arena act, commercially successful, critically acclaimed Classic Rock band in existence.
To complain about them getting inducted into the HoF would be like complaining about Greg Maddox, Derek Jeter or Clayton Kershaw getting inducted into the Baseball HoF on the first ballot. They check every single box. Whether they were the greatest ever at their position is irrelevant. They're getting right in.
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