The all things METALLICA thread!
04-08-16, 09:54 PM
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I still need to get a vinyl player, since I'm gonna have the whole metallica catalog one day.
and I wish they were jewel cases for the CD's, hate fucking cardboard slips.
04-09-16, 12:04 PM
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Not really. If you break it down, it's reasonable for a per item basis. You just have to buy it all at once. When you factor in that half of it has never seen the light of day before, it's a no-brainer for me.
04-11-16, 12:26 PM
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Definitely a great price for what you get. I'm not interested in the book or vinyl, so if I understand things correctly, I'm outta luck on the extra recordings. Pretty sure I'll pick up the remastered cds at some point.
04-11-16, 09:26 PM
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Lars Ulrich Takes Us Inside Metallica's Record Store Day Vault, Teases New Album
... But, explains drummer Lars Ulrich, “We were trying to dig deep. Because with YouTube and these things today it’s harder to find exclusive content that no one has seen before. Our goal was to create something special.”
Furthermore, these boxes are only the beginning. “There’s a lot of stuff here that will get fans psyched and whet their appetites,” Ulrich says. “Then over the next few years we’ll get into subsequent records. And we’re going to bring out some really cool things -- partly because with the later albums we have a better idea of where everything is! But every record will be a bit of a different process. And all I can say is we’ve done the best we could with these two.”
Well, one thing I felt was, Wow, we have a pretty chaotic past! Because in the early days we had so many different record companies in so many different places. Kill ‘Em All came out, I think, on something like 10 different record labels in 10 different countries, because it was all done independently. And Ride the Lightning was released on two different labels in America alone. So there was kind of an air of disarray around the whole thing. And even after everything we’ve done with these sets, there are still some tapes and other things missing. We’ve actually had a guy working for us the last couple of years whose sole job is to try to retrieve all this stuff. And we haven’t found all the pieces yet. But that said, I think we managed to put together a couple packages that are hopefully worthwhile.
One of the interesting things about these sets is that there is little to nothing in the way of never-before-heard songs.
Well, one thing about both of these records -- and pretty much most of Metallica’s history -- is that we’ve never really written or recorded things that didn’t make any of our releases. We always thought that was kind of a waste of time. Why write a song and record it if you’re not gonna put it out? So it’s not like there’s, you know, four leftover songs from Kill ‘Em All that no one’s ever heard, and three more from Ride the Lightning. Basically, Kill 'Em All is the first 10 songs we wrote and recorded, and Ride the Lightning is the next eight. That’s it. We’ve always been very methodical and straightforward in that sense.
The Kill ‘Em All box includes a few rough mixes of the album’s songs, but no demo versions.
That’s because most of the songs on Kill ‘Em All had been recorded and released earlier, on [the 1982 demo] No Life ‘Til Leather. And actually, we were talking about putting out a No Life ‘Til Leather collection first, but there were a couple practical things holding it up so we moved straight to Kill ‘Em All. We did a cassette release of that demo for Record Store Day last year, but hopefully we’ll get a chance to put out a whole set around it at some point. Who knows, maybe now that we’ve started with Kill ‘Em All we’ll do it last. But most of what you hear on the Kill ‘Em All box, stuff like the alternate versions of “Hit the Lights” and “Motorbreath,” those are just different mixes from the recording sessions. And then there are the quote-unquote live versions of “Seek and Destroy” and “Phantom Lord,” which were really just us at [San Francisco recording studio] the Automatt. The famous live versions that weren’t really live!
On the Ride the Lightning box set there are several tracks that are identified as garage demos. Where were those recorded?
Those were actually done in a garage, back behind the house where we were staying at the time. When we first came up to San Francisco [from Los Angeles] we landed in El Cerrito, a suburb right next to Berkeley. James and I lived there with a guy named Mark Whitaker, who was sort of our early manager, and it was where we would write and rehearse. We had the garage done up for soundproofing -- egg cartons on the walls, carpet on the floor, that kind of stuff. And we wrote and worked on most of the tracks for Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets there.
There’s a great live set on the Kill ‘Em All box from around that time -- Feb. 9, 1984, at the Espace Balard in Paris -- which captures one of those European shows right as the band was preparing to record Ride the Lightning. That gig was also part of the Seven Dates in Hell tour, when you opened for Venom, correct?
It was -- that was our first run in Europe. And those dates were the first time we every played to a significant audience. Instead of playing to hundreds of people we were playing to thousands. The European audiences were just very passionate, and probably a little more aware of what Metallica was doing compared to American audiences. I also think that was also when James [Hetfield] started to get a little more comfortable and confident as a frontman. So it was an exciting time. We were opening for Venom, playing to three, four, five thousand people a night and just hanging out and getting a chance to kind of embrace the whole European hard-rock scene.
Among the many interviews segments scattered throughout the two box sets is one in the Ride the Lightning box titled “Lars Ulrich When He Was Young.” What can you tell us about that?
That’s from the Ride the Lightning recording sessions in Copenhagen, and it’s the first TV interview I ever did. I look like I hadn’t been out of the house yet, with the porn mustache and the whole thing. [Laughs] It’s one of those things that hasn’t been seen very much. But it’s fun to share.
taken from http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...2016-new-album
Finally, we’d be remiss if we didn’t ask: How’s the new Metallica album coming along?
Well, thank you for asking! We’re getting there! I think it’s going to get wrapped up soon. Unless something radical happens it would be difficult for me to believe that it won’t come out in 2016. That’s what we’re going for. But obviously, the way we do things now is very different than the way we did things back in the days of Kill ‘Em All and Ride the Lightning. Nowadays we like to do so many different things -- we like to write and record but we also like to be Record Store Day ambassadors and put out deluxe reissues and go play at Rasputin’s and AT&T Park and all these other things. So, you know, writing and recording is now something that is part of the bigger picture rather than something that happens exclusively. And when it really comes down to it, the new record may actually have been written and recorded faster than the last one [2008’s Death Magnetic]. It’s just been spread out over a longer period of time, with these gaps in recording. Which is fine. I’m certainly not complaining about it. It’s just the way we work now. But anyway, the record -- it’s definitely coming along. Nearing completion. Should be done soon…hopefully. [Laughs] End quote!
... But, explains drummer Lars Ulrich, “We were trying to dig deep. Because with YouTube and these things today it’s harder to find exclusive content that no one has seen before. Our goal was to create something special.”
Furthermore, these boxes are only the beginning. “There’s a lot of stuff here that will get fans psyched and whet their appetites,” Ulrich says. “Then over the next few years we’ll get into subsequent records. And we’re going to bring out some really cool things -- partly because with the later albums we have a better idea of where everything is! But every record will be a bit of a different process. And all I can say is we’ve done the best we could with these two.”
Well, one thing I felt was, Wow, we have a pretty chaotic past! Because in the early days we had so many different record companies in so many different places. Kill ‘Em All came out, I think, on something like 10 different record labels in 10 different countries, because it was all done independently. And Ride the Lightning was released on two different labels in America alone. So there was kind of an air of disarray around the whole thing. And even after everything we’ve done with these sets, there are still some tapes and other things missing. We’ve actually had a guy working for us the last couple of years whose sole job is to try to retrieve all this stuff. And we haven’t found all the pieces yet. But that said, I think we managed to put together a couple packages that are hopefully worthwhile.
One of the interesting things about these sets is that there is little to nothing in the way of never-before-heard songs.
Well, one thing about both of these records -- and pretty much most of Metallica’s history -- is that we’ve never really written or recorded things that didn’t make any of our releases. We always thought that was kind of a waste of time. Why write a song and record it if you’re not gonna put it out? So it’s not like there’s, you know, four leftover songs from Kill ‘Em All that no one’s ever heard, and three more from Ride the Lightning. Basically, Kill 'Em All is the first 10 songs we wrote and recorded, and Ride the Lightning is the next eight. That’s it. We’ve always been very methodical and straightforward in that sense.
The Kill ‘Em All box includes a few rough mixes of the album’s songs, but no demo versions.
That’s because most of the songs on Kill ‘Em All had been recorded and released earlier, on [the 1982 demo] No Life ‘Til Leather. And actually, we were talking about putting out a No Life ‘Til Leather collection first, but there were a couple practical things holding it up so we moved straight to Kill ‘Em All. We did a cassette release of that demo for Record Store Day last year, but hopefully we’ll get a chance to put out a whole set around it at some point. Who knows, maybe now that we’ve started with Kill ‘Em All we’ll do it last. But most of what you hear on the Kill ‘Em All box, stuff like the alternate versions of “Hit the Lights” and “Motorbreath,” those are just different mixes from the recording sessions. And then there are the quote-unquote live versions of “Seek and Destroy” and “Phantom Lord,” which were really just us at [San Francisco recording studio] the Automatt. The famous live versions that weren’t really live!
On the Ride the Lightning box set there are several tracks that are identified as garage demos. Where were those recorded?
Those were actually done in a garage, back behind the house where we were staying at the time. When we first came up to San Francisco [from Los Angeles] we landed in El Cerrito, a suburb right next to Berkeley. James and I lived there with a guy named Mark Whitaker, who was sort of our early manager, and it was where we would write and rehearse. We had the garage done up for soundproofing -- egg cartons on the walls, carpet on the floor, that kind of stuff. And we wrote and worked on most of the tracks for Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets there.
There’s a great live set on the Kill ‘Em All box from around that time -- Feb. 9, 1984, at the Espace Balard in Paris -- which captures one of those European shows right as the band was preparing to record Ride the Lightning. That gig was also part of the Seven Dates in Hell tour, when you opened for Venom, correct?
It was -- that was our first run in Europe. And those dates were the first time we every played to a significant audience. Instead of playing to hundreds of people we were playing to thousands. The European audiences were just very passionate, and probably a little more aware of what Metallica was doing compared to American audiences. I also think that was also when James [Hetfield] started to get a little more comfortable and confident as a frontman. So it was an exciting time. We were opening for Venom, playing to three, four, five thousand people a night and just hanging out and getting a chance to kind of embrace the whole European hard-rock scene.
Among the many interviews segments scattered throughout the two box sets is one in the Ride the Lightning box titled “Lars Ulrich When He Was Young.” What can you tell us about that?
That’s from the Ride the Lightning recording sessions in Copenhagen, and it’s the first TV interview I ever did. I look like I hadn’t been out of the house yet, with the porn mustache and the whole thing. [Laughs] It’s one of those things that hasn’t been seen very much. But it’s fun to share.
taken from http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...2016-new-album
Finally, we’d be remiss if we didn’t ask: How’s the new Metallica album coming along?
Well, thank you for asking! We’re getting there! I think it’s going to get wrapped up soon. Unless something radical happens it would be difficult for me to believe that it won’t come out in 2016. That’s what we’re going for. But obviously, the way we do things now is very different than the way we did things back in the days of Kill ‘Em All and Ride the Lightning. Nowadays we like to do so many different things -- we like to write and record but we also like to be Record Store Day ambassadors and put out deluxe reissues and go play at Rasputin’s and AT&T Park and all these other things. So, you know, writing and recording is now something that is part of the bigger picture rather than something that happens exclusively. And when it really comes down to it, the new record may actually have been written and recorded faster than the last one [2008’s Death Magnetic]. It’s just been spread out over a longer period of time, with these gaps in recording. Which is fine. I’m certainly not complaining about it. It’s just the way we work now. But anyway, the record -- it’s definitely coming along. Nearing completion. Should be done soon…hopefully. [Laughs] End quote!
04-12-16, 11:55 AM
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Interesting comments about the No Life 'Til Leather Deluxe. I placed an order for the Deluxe sets. Seems like a pretty good value and I know I'll regret not getting them if it sells out.
04-13-16, 09:38 PM
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https://forums.metallica.com/t/kea-r...2016/2243/1227
also someone already has the RTL BOX SET!
I want mine!!
motorhead731922h
I just picked up the cd's today at walmart guess they didn't know they weren't supposed to put them out yet? Anyhow they sound fantastic guys!!!! I am only bummed with the cardboard sleeve they are already falling apart on the store shelf brand new (included photo) and I bought the best ones. The discs didn't have any scratches which made me almost pass out in amazement but I did call it in another post that it would either have fingerprints on the discs or scratches. I got fingerprints and no they were not from me I am one of those picky hold it with gloves types (figuratively speaking)
I just picked up the cd's today at walmart guess they didn't know they weren't supposed to put them out yet? Anyhow they sound fantastic guys!!!! I am only bummed with the cardboard sleeve they are already falling apart on the store shelf brand new (included photo) and I bought the best ones. The discs didn't have any scratches which made me almost pass out in amazement but I did call it in another post that it would either have fingerprints on the discs or scratches. I got fingerprints and no they were not from me I am one of those picky hold it with gloves types (figuratively speaking)
also someone already has the RTL BOX SET!
I want mine!!
04-14-16, 10:16 PM
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CELEBRATE RECORD STORE DAY WITH A LIVE WEBCAST
This year we have the distinct honor of being the official ambassadors for Record Store Day and it’s only fitting that we celebrate by playing live in one of our favorite local hangs, Rasputin Music in Berkeley, CA this Saturday, April 16. A few lucky Fifth Members and Rasputin customers have already won their tickets, but we know that many of you might still like to join us in the comfort of your own living room, so we’ve teamed up with our friends at Facebook to bring the show to you via a Facebook Live stream.
Join us for Record Store Day this Saturday by heading over to our Facebook page after you’ve done your shopping at your local indy music store. We should hit the Rasputin stage around 4:00 PM PDT and will be celebrating the release of the remastered reissues of Kill ‘Em All and Ride The Lightning (that’s a hint!). See you live from Berkeley!
https://www.facebook.com/Metallica
This year we have the distinct honor of being the official ambassadors for Record Store Day and it’s only fitting that we celebrate by playing live in one of our favorite local hangs, Rasputin Music in Berkeley, CA this Saturday, April 16. A few lucky Fifth Members and Rasputin customers have already won their tickets, but we know that many of you might still like to join us in the comfort of your own living room, so we’ve teamed up with our friends at Facebook to bring the show to you via a Facebook Live stream.
Join us for Record Store Day this Saturday by heading over to our Facebook page after you’ve done your shopping at your local indy music store. We should hit the Rasputin stage around 4:00 PM PDT and will be celebrating the release of the remastered reissues of Kill ‘Em All and Ride The Lightning (that’s a hint!). See you live from Berkeley!
https://www.facebook.com/Metallica
04-14-16, 11:21 PM
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LIBERTÉ, ÉGALITÉ, FRATERNITÉ, METALLICA! COVER ART & AUDIO SAMPLE
About a month ago we told you how excited we are to be the Ambassadors for this year’s Record Store Day celebrating independent retail. As a part of the festivities, we also mentioned that we’ll have a special exclusive CD release, Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, Metallica! - Live at Le Bataclan, Paris, France - June 11th, 2003, donating all profits to victims of the attacks in Paris in 2015. We’re back today with a sneak peek of the cover art below and a preview of the music with "Fade to Black.”
The CD includes our full nine-song performance from Le Bataclan and was mixed by Greg Fidelman. It will be available exclusively to independent retail and on Metallica.com on Saturday, April 16th. And keep watching here for more Record Store Day news and exclusive previews!
About a month ago we told you how excited we are to be the Ambassadors for this year’s Record Store Day celebrating independent retail. As a part of the festivities, we also mentioned that we’ll have a special exclusive CD release, Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, Metallica! - Live at Le Bataclan, Paris, France - June 11th, 2003, donating all profits to victims of the attacks in Paris in 2015. We’re back today with a sneak peek of the cover art below and a preview of the music with "Fade to Black.”
The CD includes our full nine-song performance from Le Bataclan and was mixed by Greg Fidelman. It will be available exclusively to independent retail and on Metallica.com on Saturday, April 16th. And keep watching here for more Record Store Day news and exclusive previews!
04-15-16, 02:46 PM
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They are up on Spotify for anyone who wants to sample before they plunk down that much cash. I have only listened to the live shit from both but the sound isn't very good. Good bootleg quality on Ride The Lightning and not awful, but not good enough for the price. The live stuff on Kill Em All sounds pretty bad.
04-15-16, 03:14 PM
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I have tons of old bootleg live Metallica CDs and all of them are of mediocre quality, sometimes worse.
I'm also hearing these remasters are simply too loud, which is a common problem in music right now.
I'm also hearing these remasters are simply too loud, which is a common problem in music right now.
04-16-16, 12:46 AM
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my RTL box came in 
#04509/30000
KEA box was delayed to tomorrow or Monday
Best Buy has both remasters for $5.99 and Walmart for $5.
#04509/30000KEA box was delayed to tomorrow or Monday
Best Buy has both remasters for $5.99 and Walmart for $5.
04-17-16, 01:45 AM
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LIVE METALLICA: BERKELEY, CA - APRIL 16, 2016 (Record Store Day appearance)
Helpless
Hit the Lights
The Four Horsemen
Ride the Lightning
Fade to Black
Jump in the Fire
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Creeping Death
Metal Militia
https://metallica.com/store/music/93...6-cd-pre-order
Helpless
Hit the Lights
The Four Horsemen
Ride the Lightning
Fade to Black
Jump in the Fire
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Creeping Death
Metal Militia
https://metallica.com/store/music/93...6-cd-pre-order
04-18-16, 09:31 PM
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04-18-16, 10:11 PM
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04-18-16, 11:05 PM
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It needs a reMIX, not remaster. Mixing is different than mastering. If there's no bass on the album to begin with, remastering it isn't going to do too much.
