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RichC2 01-23-25 03:49 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 14541632)
The body horror part, yeah not traditional Oscar material. But the beat you over the head message about female beauty standards. Notably in Hollywood, is VERY topical when it comes to todays awards landscape.

True, but I feel painting a room red balances that out

Decker 01-23-25 03:51 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg (Post 14541636)
This nomination still baffles me. She hardly made an impression on me. Mostly in the background. "Oh look, is that Isabella Rossellini?"

Yeah it's a really small part. It would be wild if she wins an Oscar late in life for a tiny part with one big pivotal speech, exactly 50 years after her mother did exactly that same thing.

rocket1312 01-23-25 03:52 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg (Post 14541636)
This nomination still baffles me. She hardly made an impression on me. Mostly in the background. "Oh look, is that Isabella Rossellini?"

I don't get it either. It's Isabella Rossellini (which I guess is enough?) and I think she's actually great in the movie, but she's in like 3 scenes and barely says anything. She's mostly just glowering in the background.

Paff 01-23-25 03:52 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by story (Post 14541381)
I try to see all of the Best Picture nominees, at least, but ugh, I have zero interest in Wicked.


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 14541487)
Feel the same way for Conclave

I try to see as many as I can, but I always end up one or two short. In fact, I went through all the BP nominees year-by-year, and there's only one year (2015) that I've seen ALL the nominated films. And the one I usually miss is what I call "the stuffy British film", like, The English Queen's Atonement Speech or something like that. Now, it's prejudicial on my part because there's always a chance that if I actually sat down and watched the film, I might enjoy it. But man, those movies are just not on my radar of "to watch" films.

Despite not being "stuffy" and British, Conclave perfectly fits the bill for this year's BP miss for me. It does have Ralph Fiennes in it though, which starts to push it in that territory...

Why So Blu? 01-23-25 04:37 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 
At least with The Substance you're gonna get an increased awareness of body horror films. Cronenberg being at the forefront. You also have stuff like Society and From Beyond, etc.

They out here.

stvn1974 01-23-25 04:40 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg (Post 14541636)
This nomination still baffles me. She hardly made an impression on me. Mostly in the background. "Oh look, is that Isabella Rossellini?"

I haven't seen the film and probably never will but I think she wins as one of those "You should have won in the past" awards.

Perkinsun Dzees 01-23-25 04:42 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 14541543)
It's crazy that The Substance is a Best Picture nominee. I like the movie a lot but it isn't what I think of with Academy Awards -- at all.

Very surprising, but a sign of changing attitudes in the Academy votership.

It wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future we get a BP nominee featuring guys jamming butt plugs up their asses.

stvn1974 01-23-25 05:08 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 14541689)
Very surprising, but a sign of changing attitudes in the Academy votership.

It wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future we get a BP nominee featuring guys jamming butt plugs up their asses.

Still sounds more entertaining than Crash or The English Patient.

IBJoel 01-23-25 05:12 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 14541689)
Very surprising, but a sign of changing attitudes in the Academy votership.

It wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future we get a BP nominee featuring guys jamming butt plugs up their asses.

EEAAO already did it and won

RichC2 01-23-25 05:12 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 14541689)
Very surprising, but a sign of changing attitudes in the Academy votership.

It wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future we get a BP nominee featuring guys jamming butt plugs up their asses.

Good point, and to be fair I was surprised by EEAAO cleaning up as well.

rocket1312 01-23-25 06:28 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14541650)
I try to see as many as I can, but I always end up one or two short. In fact, I went through all the BP nominees year-by-year, and there's only one year (2015) that I've seen ALL the nominated films. And the one I usually miss is what I call "the stuffy British film", like, The English Queen's Atonement Speech or something like that. Now, it's prejudicial on my part because there's always a chance that if I actually sat down and watched the film, I might enjoy it. But man, those movies are just not on my radar of "to watch" films.

Despite not being "stuffy" and British, Conclave perfectly fits the bill for this year's BP miss for me. It does have Ralph Fiennes in it though, which starts to push it in that territory...

Conclave is really just a gussied up airport thriller. A bunch of dudes in rooms scheming against each other. High(ish)brow garbage. I liked it quite a bit, but the ending fell really flat for me. That's the only reason I wouldn't give the movie a strong recommendation. But it's a fun, easy watch.

Crocker Jarmen 01-23-25 09:01 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 
I was hoping to see the charming Universal Language make the final nominations, but as a consolation, I'm happy to see [b]The Girl With The Needle[/B[ nominated. Its a very chilling story, and in stunning black-and-white is simultaneously the most beautiful and creepy looking movie I've seen in awhile.

Happy for the three big noms The Substance got. Having seen the movie three times now (with tickets to a fourth screening next month because I'm addicted to the wild audience reaction) I'm bowled over by just how multifaceted Demi Moore's role is; she plays relatable normal person, broad comedy, heartbreakingly vulnerable, villainous... It's a grand performance, and maintains a consistent feeling of the character despite swinging into so many ranges and styles.

JeffTheAlpaca 01-23-25 09:10 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 
That Bowen Yang and Sennett nominations announcement lasted for 18 minutes.

There is controversy over the use of AI in the Brutalist.


But controversy about the A24 Films production, which stars Academy Award winner Adrien Brody, arose over the weekend, when editor Dávid Jancsó told technology magazine Red Shark News that artificial intelligence was used to enhance the Hungarian accents of Brody and co-star Felicity Jones.

“I am a native Hungarian speaker and I know that it is one of the most difficult languages to learn to pronounce,” Jancsó said. “It’s an extremely unique language. We coached [Brody and Jones] and they did a fabulous job but we also wanted to perfect it so that not even locals will spot any difference.”


Jancsó explained that the use of AI via the Ukranian speech synthesis software Respeecher helped shape certain, more difficult Hungarian vocal sounds, which couldn’t be tweaked satisfactorily with ADR and other editing tricks.

More controversially, Jancsó revealed that generative AI (the most polarizing form of the technology) was used to “conjure a series of architectural drawings and finished buildings in the style of the fictional architect” in the film’s ending.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...005804357.html



Decker 01-23-25 09:34 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 14541841)
That Bowen Yang and Sennett nominations announcement lasted for 18 minutes.

There is controversy over the use of AI in the Brutalist.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...005804357.html

Already discussed in the Awards Season thread.
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk...l#post14539323

Dr. DVD 01-24-25 09:39 AM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 
Anything but Emilia Pereze please. Saldana was good and deserves to win, but otherwise it was a pretentious film with little to enjoy IMO. The songs weren't even catchy. The Substance didn't get too many nods, but the fact that it did get some and four were in major categories means they obviously felt it was worthwhile. I think Dune 2 shot itself in the foot as far as winning Best Picture is concerned when they announced it was intended as a middle chapter and that Messiah would be the true conclusion. Messiah isn't as great a story IMO, but if they really play off the whole cult of personality zeitgeist it could stand a chance in a couple of years.

Count Dooku 01-24-25 10:38 AM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 14542042)
. The Substance didn't get too many nods, but the fact that it did get some and four were in major categories means they obviously felt it was worthwhile. .

Right now, if you believe the odds makers, Best Actress is just a race between Madison and Moore. I'd feel certain about Moore if Qualley had been nominated because that would show broad support for the film. I still think Moore will win.

Paff 01-24-25 12:10 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14542096)
Right now, if you believe the odds makers, Best Actress is just a race between Madison and Moore. I'd feel certain about Moore if Qualley had been nominated because that would show broad support for the film. I still think Moore will win.

And Moore will get it based on being someone who usually made non-Oscar but audience favorite movies, finally being in an Oscar-type movie. Just like Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Natalie Portman, or Sandra Bullock.

Decker 01-24-25 12:19 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14542133)
And Moore will get it based on being someone who usually made non-Oscar but audience favorite movies, finally being in an Oscar-type movie. Just like Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Natalie Portman, or Sandra Bullock.

And Madison will get it based on being someone who is maybe not a superstar actress yet, bilut is an up and comer and the main focus of an Oscar favorite, critically acclaimed Best Picture nominated movie. Just like Jennifer Lawrence, Olivia Coleman, Brie Larson or Hilary Swank (twice).

See, it works both ways!

Dr. DVD 01-24-25 12:21 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14542133)
And Moore will get it based on being someone who usually made non-Oscar but audience favorite movies, finally being in an Oscar-type movie. Just like Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Natalie Portman, or Sandra Bullock.


I hope she gets it, and Madison's nomination will give her career a needed boost. It adds another one of the "Manson" cult members from Once Upon A Time in Hollywood to the big time.

Paff 01-24-25 12:52 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14542136)
And Madison will get it based on being someone who is maybe not a superstar actress yet, bilut is an up and comer and the main focus of an Oscar favorite, critically acclaimed Best Picture nominated movie. Just like Jennifer Lawrence, Olivia Coleman, Brie Larson or Hilary Swank (twice).

See, it works both ways!

Hey, I hope so, because I sure like me some Mikey Madison. (And she was really good in Anora, of course)

But if I'm picking nits, I'd put Jennifer Lawrence in the category I mentioned, the fan favorite finally in an Oscar-type movie. I'd have agreed with you had she won for Winter's Bone, but by the time she did win her Oscar, she was already widely known as Katniss Everdeen.

Decker 01-24-25 01:12 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 
Okay, how about Madison will win because she played a sex worker, just like Jane Fonda and Emma Stone did?

Paff 01-24-25 01:54 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 
Obviously there's precedent for a Madison win (and again, she's 100% who I'm rooting for despite not seeing the other 4 nominees' work), but I do think the "fan favorite in an Oscar role" is a hard one to beat.

Decker 01-24-25 01:58 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14542188)
Obviously there's precedent for a Madison win (and again, she's 100% who I'm rooting for despite not seeing the other 4 nominees' work), but I do think the "fan favorite in an Oscar role" is a hard one to beat.

Unless, of course, you're in a hard-to-watch hardcore body-horror film.

Count Dooku 01-24-25 02:16 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14542096)
Right now, if you believe the odds makers, Best Actress is just a race between Madison and Moore. I'd feel certain about Moore if Qualley had been nominated because that would show broad support for the film. I still think Moore will win.


Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14542133)
And Moore will get it based on being someone who usually made non-Oscar but audience favorite movies, finally being in an Oscar-type movie. Just like Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Natalie Portman, or Sandra Bullock.


Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14542136)
And Madison will get it based on being someone who is maybe not a superstar actress yet, bilut is an up and comer and the main focus of an Oscar favorite, critically acclaimed Best Picture nominated movie. Just like Jennifer Lawrence, Olivia Coleman, Brie Larson or Hilary Swank (twice).

See, it works both ways!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...b9fb9a16ef.gif

But if one can win both the BAFTA and the SAG, they can start writing their Oscar speech, and the other can work on their gracious loser face.

Paff 01-24-25 02:17 PM

Re: 2025 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14542190)
Unless, of course, you're in a hard-to-watch hardcore body-horror film.

Which I do want to see....


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