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Justice Smith, I Saw the TV Glow - Lead Actor over Fiennes (yes, I did not see Conclave, but does he need more recognition? The guy is an all-timer)
Katy O'Brien, Love Lies Bleeding - Supporting Actress
Joan Chen, Didi - Supporting Actress
Hugh Grant, Heretic - Supporting Actor
Civil War - Sound or Editing

ETA: I missed the part about "lots of people have seen". Although I think these are generally more mainstream-oriented picks

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I’m sorry, but I just need to interject here : That is a HORRIBLE take. #1 : Fiennes is wonderful in the role, You shouldn’t oust a nominated performance you haven’t seen yet — especially a universally acclaimed one, #2 : He’s never won an Oscar, so yes, he does need more recognition, #3 Conclave is exactly the sort of old-fashioned Oscar films they used to make in the 80s and 90s, the type that was just bemoaned above for not existing anymore,

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I'm sure you could make a compelling case for any of those, but none of them are changing the narrative around the awards. Hugh Grant is the only one who would maybe move the needle. And not that it matters, but he had been running in best actor, not best supporting.

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WOW, I actually didn't know that. I'd take out Brody then, which I don't know why I didn't go for him in the first place.

My biggest issue with the Oscars is not that no one has seen the nominees, it's that they're all so stuffy. Oh, another biopic? How daring. And then with something like Emilia Perez, which has gotten criticism from both the trans and Mexican communities, they're full steam ahead.

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When I read that Emilia Perez is facing criticism because its cast isn't Mexican (or even Spanish-speakers) and it wasn't filmed in Mexico, I seriously roll my eyes. It's a movie.

An American in Paris wasn't filmed in France.

Have we now decided that representation applies to nationality and not just race? Somehow it's not a problem when Brits and Aussies play Americans.

And has the Trans community so quickly moved on from complaining about the lack of representation to the kind of representation?

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The point was that the Oscars have moved away from nominating movies that most people have seen, so Didi may be more "mainstream-oriented," but who saw it?

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I would be fine with Brody not winning as he's won before (and Chalamet is remarkable, and sings and plays the guitar extremely well), but there is no way on earth you can remove him from the five nominees. He IS the Brutalist. There's no movie without him. He's in just about every scene (save one) of this 3.5 hour epic film. He speaks with a flawless accent, and sometimes at lengths in Hungarian (aided in one occasion by AI it should be noted). He's heartbreaking and brilliant. There is no sane argument that he shouldn't be nominated. Even the few who disliked the movie were blown away with Brody's performance.

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FOH with this entire, bad faith take.

And MY point has NEVER been that "not enough people saw this stuff". That's a business issue on what the industry chooses to put money into greenlighting and promoting.

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I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me.

yeah, but the ongoing discussion was about them not nominating more popular movies like they used to

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It's the other way around. Movies that had greater all-around artistic merit were more successful and then got nominations. Now audience turn out is primarily about spectacle (in addition and due to the reasons we talked about earlier) and studios are more concerned with short-term ROI than they used to be.

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It was an issue 20 years ago when Zhang Ziyi starred in Memoirs of a Geisha

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I think that what the major Hollywood studios considered excellent examples of "movie art" and so what got nominated for Oscars was pretty middle-brow. And because the movies were middle-brow, but also came with the imprimatur of quality, mass audiences were willing and able to support such offerings at the box office.

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Based on my need to google what you are referring to, I'm gonna guess that what happened was that there was complaining, and then it turned out not enough people gave a shit, and "the controversy" went away.

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Well, yeah...

Although as a staff member of an Asian Film Festival, it was probably bigger news in that circle than for most filmgoers, that's why I was a little more aware of it.

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I saw the movie because it takes place near the area I grew up
in the Bay Area. The movie isn't all that great though, so if you
missed it, you didn't miss much :lol:

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Thank you. In the past, people wanted to see movies like The Godfather and The Sting and Chinatown. There were the literal lines around the block for those movies. Costumed superheroes were for Saturday morning cartoons for the kids, and Roger Corman made the car chase movies specifically for the drive-ins.

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Of course last year a 3 hour movie about a nuclear physicist made nearly a billion dollars, was nominated for 13 Oscars and won 7 including Best Picture. So it's not like those days are completely behind us.

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It also featured one of those really big explosions that audiences like so much...

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She was always a long shot, but this really isn’t gonna help her Oscar campaign.

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I deleted X over a month ago but seems odd she would make some of those posts.

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That’s not an apology. That’s an “Oh shit, these old posts could come back and bite me in the ass, I better try to get in front of it.” statement.

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She says, "I am deeply sorry to those I have caused pain." That's an apology. She did not say that she was sorry if she offended anyone, which is what most non-apologies say. Obviously, the only reason she is addressing this is because it has come out and is negatively affecting her career, but at least she is saying she was wrong.

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There's the normal negative Oscar campaigning during awards season, then there's "Hey this actress posted tweets defending Hitler"! -eek- This is gonna be a rough campaign for Emilia Perez from here on out.

X - Formerly Twitter

Edit : That tweet above has been deleted. Maybe the tweet, copied and posted below, was BS? I hope so.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...65141fae76.png

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Generally speaking claiming ignorance about significant events in history while playing down their impact is not a way to win friends and influence people.

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I get what Decker is saying, but the true reality is that Gascon does not have an Oscar campaign. She is not going to win. Moore or Madison is going to win. Case closed. It's that simple. And Gascon is not going to come in third.

Right now she is trying to salvage whatever career she has. Again, the true reality is that roles for a 52 year old Spanish trans actress, who kind of looks like Javier Bardem in drag, are going to be very few and very far between.

Her immediate concerns has to be avoiding being labeled as toxic, which would destroy whatever opportunities might have come her way as a result of this movie.