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Old 01-24-24, 03:23 PM
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Re: 2024 Academy Awards

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It doesn’t sound like you’ve seen The Zone of Interest if you think it’s trauma porn. Even if you remove one of the directing nominees, I would then put in Celine Song over Greta Gerwig.

Plus the anchor point of The Boy and the Heron is also heavily WWII focused, yet nobody has a problem with that when discussing overly used themes.
Because the theme is not WWII-related, it's about generational transition and the creative process. You could remove the war elements entirely and you'd still have the exact same basic story.

I haven't seen Zone of Interest and while "trauma porn" might be a little strong, I don't need to see any more "man, wasn't the Holocaust horrific? Isn't it crazy how normal people were complicit in committing these great acts of evil?" movies made in my lifetime. I've seen Schindler, I've seen Night and Fog, I've read and seen all manner of accounts and can look out my window and see the beginnings and continuations of similar issues in my own country. I fucking get it. If filmmakers want to explore the horrors of genocide, there are a lot of others, including several ongoing.

I'm sorry, I know that sounds insensitive, and I understand the importance of new generations understanding how this evil happens, so we don't repeat it. I'm just over Holocaust dramas, because they let people pat themselves on the back and say "so powerful, so horrific" and I feel that the overemphasis on this as a historical event causes us to neglect ethnic cleansings that have occurred since then (or before then).
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I am shocked Zone of Interest...interested anyone.
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Re: 2024 Academy Awards

Originally Posted by IBJoel
Because the theme is not WWII-related, it's about generational transition and the creative process. You could remove the war elements entirely and you'd still have the exact same basic story.

I haven't seen Zone of Interest and while "trauma porn" might be a little strong, I don't need to see any more "man, wasn't the Holocaust horrific? Isn't it crazy how normal people were complicit in committing these great acts of evil?" movies made in my lifetime. I've seen Schindler, I've seen Night and Fog, I've read and seen all manner of accounts and can look out my window and see the beginnings and continuations of similar issues in my own country. I fucking get it. If filmmakers want to explore the horrors of genocide, there are a lot of others, including several ongoing.

I'm sorry, I know that sounds insensitive, and I understand the importance of new generations understanding how this evil happens, so we don't repeat it. I'm just over Holocaust dramas, because they let people pat themselves on the back and say "so powerful, so horrific" and I feel that the overemphasis on this as a historical event causes us to neglect ethnic cleansings that have occurred since then (or before then).
I get what you're saying, but complaining about Zone of Interest's nomination when you haven't even seen it is kind of, as my kids would say, lame-o-pants.
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It is crazy with all his amazing performances Robert De Niro only has 2 Oscars and the last one in 1980 for Raging Bull.
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Originally Posted by Decker
This is Martin Scorsese 10th Best Director nomination. Can you (without cheating) name the other nine? I guessed 7 correctly.
Spoiler:
Raging Bull - 1981
The Last Temptation of Christ - 1989
Goodfellas - 1991
Gangs of New York - 2003
The Aviator- 2005
The Departed - 2007 (Won)
Hugo - 2012
The Wolf of Wall Street - 2014
The Irishman- 2020
Killers of the Flower Moon 2024







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Yeah, not getting a nomination for Taxi Driver is NUTS!





Raging Bull and obviously Goodfellas over Dances with Wolves should have been more oscar wins for him.
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
It is crazy with all his amazing performances Robert De Niro only has 2 Oscars and the last one in 1980 for Raging Bull.
How many living actors have more than two acting Oscars?
Meryl Streep (2 Lead, 1 Supporting)
Daniel Day Lewis (3 Lead)
Jack Nicholson (2 Lead, 1 Supporting)
Frances McDormond (3 Lead)

I think that's it.
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How many living actors have more than two acting Oscars?
Meryl Streep (2 Lead, 1 Supporting)
Daniel Day Lewis (3 Lead)
Jack Nicholson (2 Lead, 1 Supporting)
Frances McDormond (3 Lead)

I think that's it.
It's funny that Meryl Streep has this mythic reputation for having won so many Oscars, but Frances Mc Dormand has won three Best Actress Oscars to Streep's two.
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
It's funny that Meryl Streep has this mythic reputation for having won so many Oscars, but Frances Mc Dormand has won three Best Actress Oscars to Streep's two.
I think the mythic reputation for Streep is her number of nominations. She’s been nominated 21 times! For awhile there, it seemed like she was being nominated for every single role she took.
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I think the mythic reputation for Streep is her number of nominations. She’s been nominated 21 times! For awhile there, it seemed like she was being nominated for every single role she took.
I liked Steve Martin's take on it. No one has lost so many times as Meryl Streep has.
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I think the mythic reputation for Streep is her number of nominations. She’s been nominated 21 times! For awhile there, it seemed like she was being nominated for every single role she took.
I don't think the general public understands that. I think regular people believe she has won several BAOs.
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
I don't think the general public understands that. I think regular people believe she has won several BAOs.
Well she deserves them!

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It is hard to become the Tom Brady of the Oscars where it is a subjective contest and have 6 best actor or actress trophies.
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This is pretty great, albeit too long
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The public wanted it and now they got their wish

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Woo-hoo!
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And that right there is a fun reason to watch - good job, Academy!

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