Tom Banjo

Highlander 2 was my first thought.

jeffkjoe

Jaws 3-D - No Amity setting / No Lorraine Gary

Superman III - No Lex Luthor / No Lois Lane love story

fujishig

That movie doesn't exist, though, it was just a fever dream/Mandela Effect. There is no way they'd such a great concept like immortals fighting it out over history and make it some sci-fi tale. And even if they did, no way Sean Connery reprises his role just for the money. If it did, it would definitely be at the top, though.

movieguru

Spider-Man 3. Nuff said!!

jeffkjoe

The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift - No Vin Diesel (apart from a cameo) or Paul Walker

jeffkjoe

Never Say Never Again and Casino Royale (the David Niven/Peter Sellers version)

jeffkjoe

A Shot in the Dark - An Inspector Clouseau / Peter Sellers / Blake Edwards movie, but not featuring the Pink Panther diamond

Inspector Clouseau (1968) - Alan Arkin stars as the title character, and not Peter Sellers

jeffkjoe

American Wedding - Missing a good number of the original "American Pie" cast, such as Tara Reid, Natasha Lyonne, Mena Suvari, Chris Klein, and Shannon Elizabeth

jeffkjoe

Rocky IV - Not featuring "Gonna Fly Now" / No Bill Conti score / No Rocky steps / The word "ROCKY" does not scroll right to left at the beginning

Rob V

Ghoulies Go To College - who knew they even went to high school or had a GED?

The Last Jedi - didn't move the plot enough to justify its existence

fujishig

I feel like the Last Jedi moved the plot a lot, they just decided to ignore/retrofit all of it with the next movie.

Tom Banjo

If only it really was deleted from the simulation along with Sinbad’s genie movie and Dolly’s braces!

jeffkjoe

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - The Griswold's stay home / No use of "Holiday Road" theme song

Jay G.

That movie's considered one of the better of the series though, and what really made it a franchise, since it starred Inspector Clouseau / Peter Sellers, instead of Clouseau being in more of a supporting role in the first Pink Panther. All of the following movies followed the formula of this film, even through they returned to the Pink Panther name (the actual Pink Panther diamond only features in two of the films Peter Sellers did).

Interestingly, A Shot in the Dark was released in the US only 3 months after the original Pink Panther, making it one of the fastest, if not actual fastest, sequels in history. This was because it was originally not tied to Pink Panther at all, but Blake Edwards altered the bumbling detective role to be Clouseau after directing Sellers in The Pink Panther.

That original film series has so many black sheep though. Like Trail of the Pink Panther, made up of outtakes of Sellers from other films, after he died. Curse of the Pink Panther, attempting to replace the late Sellers with a new American bumbling detective character, and Son of the Pink Panther, staring Roberto Benigni as Inspector Clouseau's illegitimate son, although I have a soft spot for the last one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pi...al_film_series

Jay G.

I actually like it, and even the replacement titles song. This one and the first are the ones that feel the most relate-able, as they deal with common issues that pop-up during those holidays/vacations before they amp up into absurdity. European Vacation, however, is a slog, and I never bothered with the later ones.

Goonies85

Christmas Vacation is my favorite of the series. Just grew up with it as being a staple to watch at Christmas time. Love Clark's off-hinged rant towards the end of the movie regarding the bonus (or lack thereof) situation...And Cousin Eddie was hilarious in this one...Still actually don't mind Vegas Vacation either, FWIW...

IBJoel

I second brayzie's vote for The Dark Knight Rises. It's more Bruce Wayne's story and is essentially about him trying to figure out what the meaning of his life is as he struggles with PTSD and depression. People don't like it because it doesn't have a lot of Batman in it, some claims of plot holes, and that people hyped it up just so much in the wake of the previous film.

Outside of The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 3 is also divisive with fans for similar reasons as the above (but with a different tone). And I actually like Iron Man 2, because I don't find it to be significantly different from all the other overstuffed MCU movies that then turn into videogames in the final act. At least IM2 has some interesting performances.

Solo is also a black sheep: No relation to the main story of Star Wars, incorporates plot points from other media in the franchise, and the biggest for me: no mention of The Force or spirituality. And while it's my least favorite of the non-prequel films (maybe. need to see TROS again), it's a fun space adventure with solid cast chemistry.

dvdjunkie32

Terminator Salvation - even though it's far better than the awful Genisys and Dark Fate, people seem to want to forget that this sequel ever existed. It's just too dark, grimy and not a fun action movie. Same thing with Alien 3.

rocket1312

So it seems we've gotten to the point in the thread where we're just naming movies.

dhmac

Sorry, but I think that "Terminator Salvation" is awful. The only thing good about it was breaking with the recycled "terminator send back in time to kill a future leader" plot and instead it's mostly set during the future war of the machines. But it fumbled the ball completely on depicting the future war, had a terrible script, and just ended up as a bad movie - one that's better than "Genisys" but worse than both "Dark Fate" or "Rise of the Machines" (IMO). The best thing about "Terminator Salvation" is the audio of Christian Bale's infamous rant and that's it.

Both "Terminator: Salvation" and "Terminator: Genisys" deserve to be black sheep of the Terminator franchise because I think both back-to-back are what killed most public interest in the franchise.

Toddarino

agreed.

story

I haven't seen that one.

Josh-da-man

Most franchises -- that go longer than three movies -- don't have a "black sheep" as much as they have diminishing returns, where each subsequent sequel gets worse and worse.

Nick Danger

Erich von Stroheim (1924)

DWilson

and we've pretty much come back to that with Daniel Craig's version.