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Star Wars is THE easiest franchise to create for in the history of franchises. It's an open ended collection of galaxies, people, aliens, robots, tech, politics, etc... all you need to do is write a good, original story. Somehow Disney has mostly failed at the most basic stuff.

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The news doesn't excite me at all. Didn't he sign-off on the Acolyte?

While I loved the Ahsoka series, I doubt he'll save SW at this point.

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It hasn't been reported by any major trade yet because it isn't actually being reported as news. This was an item in the annual Puck "prediction" newsletter. I assume it's a very informed prediction, but it's a prediction nonetheless.

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That's where I totally disagree. Or at least believe it's irrelevant. I think Lucas forgets what made the originals (and parts of the Prequels) great: pulling from disparate real world sources to coalesce cultural elements into a cohesive story. I couldn't give less of a shit about the special sacred sword passed down by Argle Bargle of planet Nargle Fargle to one day bestow upon the galaxy blah blah blah...

Star Wars, at its root, remixes memes (in the original Dawkins sense). The last place the franchise should be getting ideas from is other parts of the franchise.

ETA: It's not bad to have a human encyclopedia as a consultant that you can reference (or maybe even give an idea of how different fans may respond to different ideas), but they should never be put in charge.

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My grandfather was from Nargle Fargle. Have some respect!!

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Eastern Orthodox Nargle Fargle or Western Baptist Nargle Fargle? Asking for a friend

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Also: *shrug*

The only thing Disney Star Wars has produced that was of any interest to me was Rogue One and Andor.

And quite frankly, I don't even think the problem is Disney really.

Star Wars to me isn't a universe, it's a limited property. it's the fun space opera series with the OG characters and all that ended with Return of the Jedi (which itself was of mixed quality but fun). For me, that's enough.

If this is true, I wish them luck and hope the fans are happy.

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This is a fan film made with AI.

STAR WARS: Beggar’s Canyon | A Luke Skywalker Fan Film (Between ESB & ROTJ)

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If I disregard the fact, that Solo is a Star Wars property using familiar characters, I have to say it's a pretty entertaining SciFi/Fantasy adventure. As a Star Wars movie it's completely pointless. I didn't have to know that Solo isn't really his name or where the decorations of the Millennium Falcon had their origin.

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What was that exactly? What was one good thing she actually contributed in her 15trs?

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The Force Awakens, for one. A lot of people have their criticisms of it now (myself included), but at the time it was viewed (similarities to the original film notwithstanding) as getting the franchise back on track and successfully modernizing the series after the Prequels still had a terrible mainstream reputation and TFA remains the highest grossing film in American history. Then Rogue One came out to further praise the following year and the franchise had tons of momentum, especially with Rian Johnson being attached to a main saga film being released a year from that.

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Really, the only good Star Wars things that have come from Disney have been Rogue One, Andor, and Doctor Aphra.

Everything else has been mid or a hot mess.

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I really enjoyed Solo for what it was.

At the time the comparison was that if you liked Solo then you hated The Last Jedi and conversely, if you liked The Last Jedi then you hated Solo.

I fall into the first camp.

I have only seen the sequel trilogy once. I have watched Rogue One and Solo multiple times.

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And one could argue that her intervention on Rogue One and Solo saved both movies, although we don't know how they would have turned out without the unofficial and offical change in direction. She made some minor mistakes which happens to everyone, but she made some major mistakes, as well. She hadn't planned out the sequel trilogy, which is just mind boggeling and after Johnson changed course after The Force Awakens, she didn't role with that, but hat Abrams negate a lot of it. The Last Jedi wasn't an ideal sequel to The Force Awakens, but they should have made an ideal sequel to The Last Jedi, but decided for making the same mistake twice, which is even more mind boggeling.

I still think The Force Awakens is a great basis for a restart of the franchise, but Johnson didn't use that basis and Abrams made it even worse.

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And now it's dead in the water. Mandalorian is going to be a joke of a film and likely make 400m. That's the point, is the Star Wars brand better off now than it was 20yrs ago? That's the name of the game and what execs are paid for.

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The problem is those scripts and directors were both approved by KK. It's like the Ravens moving off of Harbaugh - great coach, solid record, but not enough to meet the high expectations.

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Yeah, I liked Solo well enough, though I think the criticism that if felt like they filmed a wikipedia entry to be valid. :lol: Ehrenreich was saddled with a thankless task, playing a character so heavily identified with Harrison Ford. And, I was fully expecting them to include major character beats and plot points like how Han met Chewie, how Han won the Falcon from Lando, and the Kessel run, I also think they went a bit too far by showing how he got his name and iconic blaster.

I'd place it well behind Andor and Rogue One, but far ahead of just about everything else Disney has put out.

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To have so little interest in the main Episode movies is enough proof that they've failed. They had one job - develop 3-6 sequel films. They hit the easiest marks first, but failed spectacularly with the rest, and managed to actually drag down the entire franchise as a whole with it. While Marvel has Doomsday to perhaps pull it out of the abyss, there is nothing like that on the radar for SW.

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Yep, that was a high point for sure - the problem is that was 9yrs ago.

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Yes, she is responsible for the mess.

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I think you're missing the general point of our responses to your question just so you can keep arguing

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Most recently, Andor:
https://gizmodo.com/tony-gilroy-says...edy-2000602177

Kennedy, like anyone else in a position like hers, has overseen a mixed bag - some very high points and some pretty low points too. I'm not going to rehash a lot of unending discussion about the sequel trilogy, but in my opinion, The Force Awakens was great, The Last Jedi was good with some flaws, and The Rise of Skywalker was a misstep. Rogue One was fantastic. The first two seasons of The Mandalorian were excellent. Andor is one of the best things ever made associated with Star Wars. Star Wars: Visions is utterly cool. That's a decent amount of high points.

But boy were there some low points too. Solo was ill conceived and the execution didn't manage to rise above the poor concept. Obi-Wan was forgettable. The Book of Boba Fett was awful. The third season of The Mandalorian took a step back. I haven't watched the animated series or some of the other live action shows (Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew, The Acolyte) so I can't speak to those, but they contribute to a sense of Star Wars oversaturation.

George Lucas was responsible for a very mixed bag too. Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back are masterpieces, Return of the Jedi is decent, but the prequel trilogy just gets worse with every viewing for me and I don't think I even need to mention the 80s animated TV shows (Ewoks, Droids). The Special Edition changes to his masterpieces range from annoying to disastrous. I never watched The Clone Wars, but I know people love it.

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I'll keep beating this drum, but The Bad Batch is up there with Rogue One for Disney Star Wars content.

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Forgot about Solo. It was Good. Not very good, not excellent, but good. B- movie.

But I'll take the vision and creativity of Lord & Miller over that of Kathleen Kennedy any day of the week, and twice on Tisha B'av; I really wish we could have seen that movie.