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Artman 11-23-20 07:37 PM

Re: Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga (Blu-ray & Ultra HD Blu-ray; 3/31/20)
 

Originally Posted by mcnabb (Post 13847743)
where ROTJ comes to a grinding halt at certain points in the movie (especially when they meet the Ewoks). Once Leia meets Wicket to the Luke/Leia conversation about their mother is just dead space filler for that movie.

Agreed, easily the weakest 15min stretch in the OT. Could've helped considerably by just cutting the comedy routine about getting captured by the Ewoks, they could've just met them and followed them to the village. Replace Threepio story time with the Rebel team planning the next day's attack, etc. Also a few minutes could've been given to Luke giving himself up to the Empire, which could've been a cool scene.

mcnabb 11-23-20 08:33 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 13847277)
I also don't really buy into the "drama" of the throne room stuff, but people seem to like it and I've written about that before and I won't belabor the point.

I have to say that the PT really made the whole throne room scenes better, IMO. I know many hate the PT so I'm not trying to convince anyone, but it worked for me. The whole 6 movie arc comes to a culmination when Luke/Vader/The Emperor meet on Death Star 2. Palpatine's plan that unfolded when he was a Senator in Episode 1, Vader's choosing between his son/master, and Luke deciding to throw down his saber is the trifecta that really brings everything together. Don't get me wrong, there is ALOT wrong with the PT in terms of execution (that we have all debated for years), but this is the one payoff that works because of the PT backstory.

Jason 11-24-20 09:38 AM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 13847320)
I never bought Luke's transformation between Empire and Jedi. He goes from impetuous brat getting his ass kicked, to obi wan in black between films with nothing to indicate how exactly he got there.

Especially when the timeframe between Empire and Jedi is what, a month or so?

Jason 11-24-20 09:40 AM

Re: Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga (Blu-ray & Ultra HD Blu-ray; 3/31/20)
 

Originally Posted by Artman (Post 13847995)
Agreed, easily the weakest 15min stretch in the OT. Could've helped considerably by just cutting the comedy routine about getting captured by the Ewoks, they could've just met them and followed them to the village. Replace Threepio story time with the Rebel team planning the next day's attack, etc. Also a few minutes could've been given to Luke giving himself up to the Empire, which could've been a cool scene.

Rescuing an Ewok who was being abused by some stormtroopers for their amusement would have worked a lot better. They still could have had the "golden god" reaction to Threepio and all that, but the capture, cooking scene, and all that was pointless.

milo bloom 11-24-20 11:03 AM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 13848181)
Especially when the timeframe between Empire and Jedi is what, a month or so?

Six months according the novel. While leaving Tattooine, Han has apparently been told and he comments on "six months of wide-awake nothing" while in hibernation.

And there were comics going on between the two movies, showing them hunting for Boba Fett, so Luke was getting field experience, not just sitting on his thumbs.

mcnabb 11-24-20 12:21 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 13847320)
I never bought Luke's transformation between Empire and Jedi. He goes from impetuous brat getting his ass kicked, to obi wan in black between films with nothing to indicate how exactly he got there.

It was a quick transformation simply because Lucas condensed Episode 6,7,8,9 all in one movie to wrap everything up. If you read some of the original 7,8,9 notes from back in the early 80's (I believe Gary Kurtz released them), the 'other' not Leia. Luke would go looking for his sister in 7,8,9. Luke wasn't supposed to meet face to face with Palpatine until Episode 9, as that was moved up to Episode 6. I'm sure there would have been more character growth after ESB in terms of Luke becoming a Jedi if there were a true 7,8,9 back then in the 80's. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Lucas was burned out from Star Wars, he was getting a divorce, so Episode 6 was mashed together to get it over with.

In the end, we got Rey meeting face to face with Palpatine in Episode 9. Thanks JJ for your originality! :lol:

Michael Corvin 11-24-20 02:02 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 13847320)
I never bought Luke's transformation between Empire and Jedi. He goes from impetuous brat getting his ass kicked, to obi wan in black between films with nothing to indicate how exactly he got there.

Fake it until you make it.

dex14 12-28-20 07:39 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

GoldenJCJ 12-28-20 07:41 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
Ok, that’s funny...in the nerdiest way. :lol:

Michael Corvin 12-28-20 08:03 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
The power converter looks photoshopped in, but still funny.

Jay G. 12-29-20 07:12 AM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13864670)
The power converter looks photoshopped in, but still funny.

I'm pretty sure the entire picture is a collage. Hamill isn't holding the power inverter, is not in front of the gas station, and the station isn't called "Tosche".

Cellar Door 12-29-20 11:40 AM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
I wondered if he was doing a (poor) cosplay of the 5th Doctor, but apparently he was at a St. Patrick's Day parade and that is shamrock on his coat, not celery.

milo bloom 12-29-20 01:20 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Cellar Door (Post 13864869)
I wondered if he was doing a (poor) cosplay of the 5th Doctor, but apparently he was at a St. Patrick's Day parade and that is shamrock on his coat, not celery.

That threw me for a second too, I wonder how he would do as a Doctor? Maybe just in a special like the Rowan Atkinson one.

Jay G. 12-29-20 02:22 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13864902)
That threw me for a second too, I wonder how he would do as a Doctor? Maybe just in a special like the Rowan Atkinson one.

I think the entire UK would revolt if the BBC hired a non-British actor to play The Doctor, especially an American. At the least, he'd have to do a British accent.

Josh-da-man 12-29-20 07:13 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 13864942)
I think the entire UK would revolt if the BBC hired a non-British actor to play The Doctor, especially an American. At the least, he'd have to do a British accent.

Considering how badly the Whittaker/Chibnall era has been received, I think most Brits would welcome Mark Hamill as the Doctor as long as the writing was good.

I lurk about some Whovian forums, and I don't think I've seen anyone who likes the direction DW has taken since Chibnall took over.

Jay G. 12-29-20 08:06 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 13865095)
Considering how badly the Whittaker/Chibnall era has been received, I think most Brits would welcome Mark Hamill as the Doctor as long as the writing was good.

I lurk about some Whovian forums, and I don't think I've seen anyone who likes the direction DW has taken since Chibnall took over.

I'm fine with Doctor Who as it currently is. Don't assume where you frequent is representative of the public as a whole.

And personally, I like Whittaker as The Doctor. I would be fine with Mark Hamill as the Doctor as well, but I'm American, so I don't have the same sense of national pride that the Brits do over the series. Even with the 1998 backdoor pilot TV movie being co-produced by FOX, they kept The Doctor British.

milo bloom 12-30-20 11:02 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
I love Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor but I have the same problem I did with Capaldi’s run - they’re great portrayals but saddled with inconsistent stories.

Jodie’s run got a great boost by bringing Sacha Dhawan as an adversary, so maybe they’ll keep improving.

Josh-da-man 12-31-20 03:42 AM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
The thread is starting to drift... -eek-

Maybe a mod can merge the Doctor Who posts into one of the existing Doctor Who threads, or the new for the upcoming New Years special.

milo bloom 12-31-20 10:39 AM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
It's a scifi thread, they always drift and we were talking about Mark's Fifth Doctor cosplay.

Back to Star Wars then - I saw these posted on twitter, no source given. I wonder if there's someone like Zavvi that could print these and we could put our own discs in them.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...a264d1dee2.jpg

I'd love a fourth one for Solo/Rogue One and maybe the first Clone Wars mini-series.

dex14 03-16-21 07:56 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
‘Star Wars’: Ewoks TV Movies, Boba Fett ‘Holiday Special’ Debut Finally Coming to Disney Plus
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/sta...us-1234932286/

Bluelitespecial 03-16-21 08:13 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
For being a variety show I enjoy the Holiday Special and it's not nearly as bad as it's made out to be. Next time I have Disney Plus I might watch the Ewok movies again as I haven't seen them since the 80s.

Mike86 03-16-21 09:13 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
The Holiday Special is awful. Every bit as terrible as anyone says that it is. The Boba Fett cartoon is the only kind of decent part.

I’m kind of interested in watching the Ewoks made for tv movies. I can’t remember if I’ve seen them or if I have it’s been a long time.

jjcool 03-17-21 01:17 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 
So this isn't the whole holiday special, just the cartoon. I remember watching the ewok movies as a kid, and tracking down VHS copies a number of years back.

The Questyen 03-17-21 01:45 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 13906833)

I’m kind of interested in watching the Ewoks made for tv movies. I can’t remember if I’ve seen them or if I have it’s been a long time.

I watched them recently since I really liked them as a kid and they're pretty terrible. Not in a good way either they're mostly a slog to get through.

story 03-17-21 02:20 PM

Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 13906815)
‘Star Wars’: Ewoks TV Movies, Boba Fett ‘Holiday Special’ Debut Finally Coming to Disney Plus
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/sta...us-1234932286/

:D Yaaaaay! Yaaaaay! Yaa--


Originally Posted by The Questyen (Post 13907107)
I watched them recently since I really liked them as a kid and they're pretty terrible. Not in a good way either they're mostly a slog to get through.

--aaaoooooh-nooooo... :(


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