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Old 04-03-24, 05:25 PM
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An absolute disappointment. Silver Surfer is probably my second or third favorite Marvel character. I guess Disney is happy running their cash cow into the ground.
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There is no reason at all to do this except maybe piss people off?

What is Hollywood's obsession with making longtime male fictional characters female or a different color?

It isn't woke. It's just dumb.
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Will the Thing still made of rock or will they update him and have him made of astro-turf?
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

Originally Posted by Spiderbite
There is no reason at all to do this except maybe piss people off?

What is Hollywood's obsession with making longtime male fictional characters female or a different color?

It isn't woke. It's just dumb.
"Garner is said to be playing a different surfer known as Shalla-Bal, who was the lover of Norrin Radd."
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

Thank you dex14, I am not a hardcore Silver Surfer fan, but if you have read enough FF comics, and even if you only came to know Silver Surfer from his second long running series that I believe started in 1987, you would have stories where Shalla-Bal is mentioned as his one true love. The reaction to the casting of Shalla-Bal has me loling big time, as the reaction from several folks in this thread is exactly how a lot of other folks on the internet will react when they hear the news of Garner's casting.
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Thank you dex14, I am not a hardcore Silver Surfer fan, but if you have read enough FF comics, and even if you only came to know Silver Surfer from his second long running series that I believe started in 1987, you would have stories where Shalla-Bal is mentioned as his one true love. The reaction to the casting of Shalla-Bal has me loling big time, as the reaction from several folks in this thread is exactly how a lot of other folks on the internet will react when they hear the news of Garner's casting.
I mean... I get if people are upset because they want to see Norrin Radd... but this isn't just a swapping of sex. She was a surfer in the books... maybe briefly.

Also... keep in mind this is all multi-versal now. Maybe Norrin from the Krasinski (or other) universe comes in at some point in Secret Wars.

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Thank you dex14, I am not a hardcore Silver Surfer fan, but if you have read enough FF comics, and even if you only came to know Silver Surfer from his second long running series that I believe started in 1987, you would have stories where Shalla-Bal is mentioned as his one true love. The reaction to the casting of Shalla-Bal has me loling big time, as the reaction from several folks in this thread is exactly how a lot of other folks on the internet will react when they hear the news of Garner's casting.
I mean yes she is a character from the comics but in a completely different role. I guess I'd have a similar reaction if they started with Captain Carter over Captain America, if I were a huge fan of the Silver Surfer like I am of Cap. As is I'm a big fan but not a huge fan and I don't care that much as long as they do justice to the characters and have a non-cloud Galactus. I'm also wondering if we just don't get Norrin Radd or if this is part of the multiverse shenanigans that kept the FF out of view from our MCU.
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

She is a great actress for sure. But does SS need much range? Seems like sort of a waste
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

Wonder if they're going to have Shalla-Bal be the Silver Surfer I wonder how they're going to swing that. Switch Norrin Rad and Shalla-Bal's roles, where she will make the sacrifice to become Galactus' herald and save Zenn-La? Or will both Norrin Radd and Shalla-Bal become Silver Surfers like in that Universe X comic?
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

I had unreasonably high hopes for this movie rekindling my interest in the MCU, but this is a disappointment.
Garner is a talented actress, but she really wore thin on Ozark for me.
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

I can't imagine being her agent : "Well the bad news is they killed the Madonna biopic, so you no longer have a starring vehicle. But the good news is you're now free to play the Silver Surfer!".
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

Originally Posted by Decker
I can't imagine being her agent : "Well the bad news is they killed the Madonna biopic, so you no longer have a starring vehicle. But the good news is you're now free to play the Silver Surfer!".
Going to be in The Wolfman too.
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MOD NOTE: BEWARE, MASSIVE SPOILER!!!! YOU’VE BEEN WARNED!

Spoiler:
Wasn't it already leaked that the plot of this movie sees Galactus win in the end, with the FF fleeing their destroyed universe and landing in the MCU? If that's still the case,she'll either die rebelling against Galactus or be a villain. And, it'd be safe to assume the real Silver Surfer is in the MCU already.







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I guess I'd be more upset if we didn't already see a male silver surfer on the screen.
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

MOD NOTE: BEWARE, MASSIVE SPOILER!!!! YOU’VE BEEN WARNED!
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by RocShemp
Wasn't it already leaked that the plot of this movie sees Galactus win in the end, with the FF fleeing their destroyed universe and landing in the MCU? If that's still the case,she'll either die rebelling against Galactus or be a villain. And, it'd be safe to assume the real Silver Surfer is in the MCU already.




Thats a gigantic spoiler if it’s true.
Wish I didn’t read that

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MOD NOTE: BEWARE, MASSIVE SPOILER!!!! YOU’VE BEEN WARNED!
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Wasn't it already leaked that the plot of this movie sees Galactus win in the end, with the FF fleeing their destroyed universe and landing in the MCU? If that's still the case,she'll either die rebelling against Galactus or be a villain. And, it'd be safe to assume the real Silver Surfer is in the MCU already.





Thanks a lot butthole

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MOD NOTE: BEWARE, PREVIOUSLY REVEALED MOVIE PLOT FACT!!!! YOU’VE BEEN WARNED! 😉

Sorry. I could've sworn I read that here, sans spoiler tags, in this very thread (if not the general MCU thread). Heck, I remember that when I read in this very thread that
Spoiler:
the movie will be set in the '60s



made an oddball sort of sense, given that this movie went into preproduction during all the Kang timelines shenanigans.

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Originally Posted by dex14
"Garner is said to be playing a different surfer known as Shalla-Bal, who was the lover of Norrin Radd."
I grew up reading the John Byrne FF and loved the character of Frankie Ray who became Nova, a new herald for Galactus.

Her love story with Johnny Storm and him being crushed when she became Nova was a great drama as a kid. It would have been extremely cool (at least for me) if they had done that story and cast her for that character.

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MOD NOTE: BEWARE, PREVIOUSLY REVEALED MOVIE PLOT FACT!!!! YOU’VE BEEN WARNED! 😉

Sorry. I could've sworn I read that here, sans spoiler tags, in this very thread (if not the general MCU thread). Heck, I remember that when I read in this very thread that
I cannot tell you which thread, but I read it here too, without spoiler tags.
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Originally Posted by Inhumans99
Thank you dex14, I am not a hardcore Silver Surfer fan, but if you have read enough FF comics, and even if you only came to know Silver Surfer from his second long running series that I believe started in 1987, you would have stories where Shalla-Bal is mentioned as his one true love. The reaction to the casting of Shalla-Bal has me loling big time, as the reaction from several folks in this thread is exactly how a lot of other folks on the internet will react when they hear the news of Garner's casting.
Most like me don't know there is a female one and I read the comics for a long time.

So it won't matter that it is another "surfer" people will just think they switched the character to a female. Hence the reaction.

Won't matter to me I don't have high hopes on this anyway.




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Most like me don't know there is a female one and I read the comics for a long time.

So it won't matter that it is another "surfer" people will just think they switched the character to a female. Hence the reaction.

Won't matter to me I don't have high hopes on this anyway.
I mean she became the Silver surfer in like one issue of an alternate universe "what if" comic decades ago (spoiler for that comic, the galactus there isn't even galactus it's Franklin). So they did basically just switch the character to female. I did think Frankie Raye/Nova too but I think you need a bit more setup for that to be impactful.

In any case lots of gnashing of teeth is going to happen until this comes out, just weird announcement timing with the whole proxy battle ending yesterday too.
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I mean she became the Silver surfer in like one issue of an alternate universe "what if" comic decades ago (spoiler for that comic, the galactus there isn't even galactus it's Franklin). So they did basically just switch the character to female. I did think Frankie Raye/Nova too but I think you need a bit more setup for that to be impactful.

In any case lots of gnashing of teeth is going to happen until this comes out, just weird announcement timing with the whole proxy battle ending yesterday too.
They're trying to subvert expectations and check the boxes... because that worked so well with the Star Wars sequels.

When they finally reveal Norrin Rad, no one will give a shit.

They should focus on X-men 97 and animation.

The MCU is in such a crappy state that it's going take more than one film to bring it back to greatness (assuming that's even possible).
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I mean we have two franchises (this and X-men) coming, if they don't respark the MCU nothing will.
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Re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

Originally Posted by dex14
She won an Emmy three times for her work on Ozark.
I don't watch TV/series, for the most part.

Oh also, question: I'm not huge on FF. Did the 2005 movie originate the "Johnny flies and lights up a big '4' in the sky" thing?


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