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Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
09-08-19, 09:48 PM
#151
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I love the classic Toho films but in all honesty they are firmly a product of 50s/60s/70s Japanese sensibilities. Kind of like Hammer Horror films. They need a 50s/60s British Technicolor feel or they don't work.
The same reason Universal Classic Monsters kind of only work in black and white, and back in the golden age of Hollywood.
I loved Cloverfield because it felt fresh, contemporary, and scary. And surprisingly, the human drama was not lip-service empty melodrama you couldn't give two shits about.
The same reason Universal Classic Monsters kind of only work in black and white, and back in the golden age of Hollywood.
I loved Cloverfield because it felt fresh, contemporary, and scary. And surprisingly, the human drama was not lip-service empty melodrama you couldn't give two shits about.
09-08-19, 10:19 PM
#152
Senior Member
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
On the running commentary the director admitted he didn't see any Godzilla movies until he signed on to this project. Hollywood needs to find artists that have some sort of passion for a project like this that has a history and a legacy. Certainly fans will come to a movie like this but there are not enough Godzilla fans to make an expensive movie a hit. So I understand tney need to elevate and re-invent the material to bring in new fans. They clearly failed here. At least it had some nice monster battles but that's not enough to get the franchise going. And I'm curious to see what they do with the next one as they seem clear to declare Godzilla the new King. What does that make Kong, who really is the King? Are they going to make Kong the bad guy?
09-15-19, 04:28 PM
#153
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Shin Godzilla is $10.39 on Amazon right now. I just ordered it and am looking forward to watching it for the first time.
09-15-19, 08:29 PM
#154
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Its damn good, but it is not a standard Godzilla movie. The tone is probably closer to the original 1954 film but with its own voice.
10-02-19, 02:21 PM
#155
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Transformers made 2.52 times its budget worldwide. Godzilla did 2.08. Films generally need to make 3X their budgets worldwide to make money. Both were money losers at the box office, but Last Knight crashed and burned quite a bit less than Godzilla. It didn't make money, but it lost less money than Godzilla did.
I do agree though, that lower budget sequels will be the only way these franchises will continue, unless they move to a streaming platform. Bumblebee did 3.95X its budget worldwide (a budget that was half of Last Knight's).
10-02-19, 10:18 PM
#156
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Bumblebee is the best film out of those shit Bay films. This whole Last Night and Godzilla comparison is like saying which piece of shit smells less.
10-02-19, 10:31 PM
#157
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
The bolded above isn't true. Last Knight disappointed, but it cleared $605 million worldwide on a $240 million budget. KotM grossed only $385 million on a $185 million budget.
Transformers made 2.52 times its budget worldwide. Godzilla did 2.08. Films generally need to make 3X their budgets worldwide to make money. Both were money losers at the box office, but Last Knight crashed and burned quite a bit less than Godzilla. It didn't make money, but it lost less money than Godzilla did.
I do agree though, that lower budget sequels will be the only way these franchises will continue, unless they move to a streaming platform. Bumblebee did 3.95X its budget worldwide (a budget that was half of Last Knight's).
Transformers made 2.52 times its budget worldwide. Godzilla did 2.08. Films generally need to make 3X their budgets worldwide to make money. Both were money losers at the box office, but Last Knight crashed and burned quite a bit less than Godzilla. It didn't make money, but it lost less money than Godzilla did.
I do agree though, that lower budget sequels will be the only way these franchises will continue, unless they move to a streaming platform. Bumblebee did 3.95X its budget worldwide (a budget that was half of Last Knight's).
10-03-19, 12:16 PM
#158
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Honestly why don't they build a "Monsterverse" on a streaming platform? I'd much rather see some kind of Monarch mythology worldbuilding over 10 episodes a year, rather than these bloated empty features with forgettable characters, anemic plots, but with acceptable (if forgettable) monster clashes.
10-05-19, 05:24 AM
#159
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Yeah its foreign BO was puzzling. Generally big budget spectacle goes over well in foreign markets, especially China. Of course Godzilla being a Japanese creation might not go over well.
Honestly why don't they build a "Monsterverse" on a streaming platform? I'd much rather see some kind of Monarch mythology worldbuilding over 10 episodes a year, rather than these bloated empty features with forgettable characters, anemic plots, but with acceptable (if forgettable) monster clashes.
Honestly why don't they build a "Monsterverse" on a streaming platform? I'd much rather see some kind of Monarch mythology worldbuilding over 10 episodes a year, rather than these bloated empty features with forgettable characters, anemic plots, but with acceptable (if forgettable) monster clashes.
10-24-19, 12:55 AM
#160
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Long live the king!
This is a great movie for Mystery Science Theater...it's so bad it's good.
I would have ejected it from the Oppo after the first half hour if the Mrs. didn't love the Godzee of our youth so much.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters is the first movie in the 21st Century to be made SPECIFICALLY for Stoners.
Fortunately, I live in a state where herbal refreshments are legal.
And I can say with confidence, it did improve the movie.
Sadly, not enough....FORCING me to go to the basement to grab some fungus I have growing there.
BINGO, BANGO, BUNGO...suddenly King of Monsters became Citizen Kane material, the stuff of dreams.
FWIW, I voted 3 stars for this movie...with a caveat.
1 star if viewed without refreshments, and 5 stars with.
I would have ejected it from the Oppo after the first half hour if the Mrs. didn't love the Godzee of our youth so much.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters is the first movie in the 21st Century to be made SPECIFICALLY for Stoners.
Fortunately, I live in a state where herbal refreshments are legal.
And I can say with confidence, it did improve the movie.
Sadly, not enough....FORCING me to go to the basement to grab some fungus I have growing there.
BINGO, BANGO, BUNGO...suddenly King of Monsters became Citizen Kane material, the stuff of dreams.
FWIW, I voted 3 stars for this movie...with a caveat.
1 star if viewed without refreshments, and 5 stars with.
10-24-19, 12:20 PM
#161
RIP
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This movie was pretty fucking bad. It was a chore to sit through. Basically nothing more than a cameo from Godzilla. Maybe his agent demanded too much money. Fuck you, Godzilla's agent.
10-24-19, 05:43 PM
#164
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
That is the one I am looking forward to the most. I haven't seen King of Monsters yet but it seems I am not missing much. I seen first one and I enjoyed it. Not sure why I lost interest to want to see King of Monsters. The trailers didn't do much for me though I did find Mothra cute. 
10-27-19, 06:19 PM
#165
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Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Strong rumor the GvK trailer will drop this week, as it's likely to be attached to Doctor Sleep.
05-04-20, 12:06 AM
#166
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Finally got around to seeing this. Wanted to see it on the big screen, but bad reviews had me save my money. Glad I did.
As others have mentioned, the monster action is solid, but too dark, and cuts away way too fast.
The human element in this film is so boring, uninteresting, and just a plot mover. I doubt anyone cares about the stupid characters, their asinine plot, and every time they run away it's near death. Talk about cliche after cliche in this one.
I guess it was overall better than I imagined after reading all the bad press, but I have no desire to see this again, or if I do, I'm skipping the human scenes. Just lots of stupid shit and ridiculous moments that they might as well have made this a cartoon.
As others have mentioned, the monster action is solid, but too dark, and cuts away way too fast.
The human element in this film is so boring, uninteresting, and just a plot mover. I doubt anyone cares about the stupid characters, their asinine plot, and every time they run away it's near death. Talk about cliche after cliche in this one.
I guess it was overall better than I imagined after reading all the bad press, but I have no desire to see this again, or if I do, I'm skipping the human scenes. Just lots of stupid shit and ridiculous moments that they might as well have made this a cartoon.
04-06-21, 12:26 PM
#167
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019, D: Michael Dougherty) -- The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Rewatched last night, this was still a lot of fun and I don't get the criticisms of the humans' actions. The plot is right out of the old school Toho films, just transplanted to America. MBB can do no wrong in my eyes but damn if the mom character doesn't resemble Elizabeth Olsen. The first time I watched this I thought it was the same couple from the 2014 film and I wondered where the daughter came from.
It was also weird seeing the fight scenes from the 2014 film as archival footage, but this time you could actually see them.
So, tonight will be GvK!
It was also weird seeing the fight scenes from the 2014 film as archival footage, but this time you could actually see them.
So, tonight will be GvK!
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