Josh-da-man

Wolverine!

dex14

fujishig

So you were actually talking about Asians and not Asian-Americans or naturalized Asians?

You do realize there are a ton of movies actually made in Asia that star people from Asia and that there is no real need for a "savior" in American cinema for them? If we're talking celebrating the likes of Golding or Simu and movies headlining them, the narrative is usually that it's representation for Asian-Americans/Canadians/British/etc. That's why I found your statement calling him out as being from Canada kind of odd.

majorjoe23

Forget it Jake, it’s Oldboytown.

beavis69

We just started it and love it, but yea it doesn't get any of the love Schitts Creek got. Also sucks to hear the actors didn't have a positive experience on it.

OldBoy

/thread

fujishig

So no Disney Plus Premiere access. Theatrical exclusive, 45 day window until on Disney Plus.


Shame because I would have bought it too.

Koby

Still gonna just wait for it to be on Disney+.

DJariya

It’s not going to Disney plus after 45 days. It will go to $20 PVOD afterwards. It will probably be on regular Disney plus close to Christmas. They want 90 days for theatrical, rentals and digital before it’s part of your subscription. No way they will dump it for everyone after barely a month and a half.

Edit: I’ve seen some confusing write ups on this. One person wrote that after 45 days it will likely go to Premiere Access for for kind of fee. Which makes sense. 45 days it way too soon to give an MCU movie for regular subscribers.

fujishig

Unless they're going to give some kind of drastic discount over other VOD services, who the heck is going to pay the same price at the same time to lock this into premier access Disney Plus instead of MA?

OldBoy

Premier Access better than no access.

dex14

DJariya

Twitter

To add some context to Simu's comment, he's taking a shot at Bob Chapek who is calling this movie an "experiment" being theaters-only and not having a Disney + option.

https://screenrant.com/shang-chi-mov...ease-response/

ddrknghtrtns

Why are they encouraging people to herd together, especially right now or even a couple of weeks from now?

fujishig

Chapek really isn't endearing himself to the MCU stars, is he?

That being said, it wasn't a slight at the Asian American cast at all, in that I'm sure he views all these films as a commodity to use like this. And as someone who has young unvaccinated kids at home, I'm not seeing this in the theater, and I really really really hope this doesn't bomb, at least not as badly as the last Asian-led genre movie that bombed last month.

dex14

Tickets are now onsale.

Decker

It really does feel like it's going to bomb though. I get the feeling that this movie has no buzz going for it, no heat. Less than any previous MCU film, by a lot. An almost unknown property, not connected in any tangible way to any other MCU film, no big stars, a difficult to remember title, coming out during a pandemic surge and after kids return to school. And the trailers feel so generic. I try to muster some enthusiasm because Iike the MCU films, but honestly this looks like any other Americanized version of a Hong Kong action film.

DWilson

I'll be seeing it the first weekend, but I'm wary of the film. I'm an old-school Comics fan and Master of Kung Fu was a favorite. Of course, the character was drawn to evoke Bruce Lee. I'm sure Simu Li is a nice guy and kind to animals, but he just doesn't scream Action Hero to me. He just seems like the neighbor from down the street. I hope I feel differently after the film.

fujishig

I mean it IS connected to Iron Man 3, but yeah, I think anything that comes out after the spectacle that was Endgame probably falls short on the connectivity front. I'm surprised they spoiled the Abomination part but they probably had to.

I do have a feeling this is not going to do all that well, and I suspect the conclusions they'll draw on as for why it and Widow (for an MCU mainline film) and maybe Eternals underperform are going to place the blame on the cast/direction/some other BS and not COVID. I may just be a bit pessimistic though.

As an aside, on the toy front covid+release date shifting basically screwed over the action figures for both this and GI Joe. The Shang Chi figures have been on the shelves for months now and are going to be clearanced out by the time the movie hits. Meanwhile the Joe figures aren't even really out yet. So I doubt merch sales are going to carry either franchise.

Deftones

If I have to wait 90 days for BW to hit Disney+, I can most definitely wait 45 days for this.

beavis69

I don't think it really matters too much if it fails or not. Fail is also subjective because I don't think either way it will loss money (although Disney will cook the books like any studio does to make it seem like it did). For these MCU films these characters are going to appear in other MCU films and could work better with a supporting cast around them. In turn it could make their character more familiar and audiences once again craving a solo movie. I think this is what is happening with Dr Strange, people weren't as onboard with that first solo movie (and it was a very different spin on the MCU formula) but enjoyed his character in other MCU movies and are looking forward to the Multi Verse.

Going forward though someone is going to have to step up to be the central character carrying the films. RDJ did it for awhile then Chris Evans came and helped out. Chadwick Boseman would have done an amazing job carrying it forward but that unfortunately wasn't in the cards. I think the obvious answer is Tom Holland, but he needs help. I'm kinda shocked that we aren't finally ready for a solo Hulk movie again. Ruffalo seems like he could carry a film himself, but maybe there is just too many failures and they want to keep him with others.

dex14

There won’t be a solo Hulk movie because Marvel doesn’t want to involve Universal, who hold the distribution rights.

Obi-Wanma

Hulk hasn't gotten and won't get a solo movie simply because Universal still has the exclusive rights to distribute any Hulk movie, and Disney doesn't want to finance a movie only to have to split the profits with Universal.

fujishig

They are in trouble if they need to lean on Holland to lead this universe, considering the whole Sony thing.

d2cheer

Saw the trailer for this in front of Fast 9 they also showed the Snake Eyes trailer right after it. Both looked so generic and boring I may have mixed up the order I saw the trailers...no interest in this at all really. I will Redbox one day maybe.