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Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I am shocked - SHOCKED - to discover coincidence played a role in a comic book movie.
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I feel the same way as Deftones. Liked the movie but shouldn't have read the reviews since I was expecting to be blown away by the movie but felt that it was good, not great. I'm kinda glad Sif wasn't part in the film since
I was also disappointed with the change in Hulk's voice and Taika Waititi voicing Korg. The latter is an important character in both Thor and Hulk's comic book history. Korg was Thor's first villain in Journey into Mystery #83 and he was an important character in the whole Planet Hulk/World War Hulk storylines. Speaking about Planet Hulk, I know that the storyline was wasted in this Thor movie because contractually Hulk movies are complicated, but wish it wasn't as a throwaway story like they did in Ragnarok. Planet Hulk is one of the best Marvel stories in the past 25 years and it deserved to be told in a movie (besides the animated one).
By the way, will Hela be Death, the one Thanos' loves, in Infinity War?
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I was also disappointed with the change in Hulk's voice and Taika Waititi voicing Korg. The latter is an important character in both Thor and Hulk's comic book history. Korg was Thor's first villain in Journey into Mystery #83 and he was an important character in the whole Planet Hulk/World War Hulk storylines. Speaking about Planet Hulk, I know that the storyline was wasted in this Thor movie because contractually Hulk movies are complicated, but wish it wasn't as a throwaway story like they did in Ragnarok. Planet Hulk is one of the best Marvel stories in the past 25 years and it deserved to be told in a movie (besides the animated one).
By the way, will Hela be Death, the one Thanos' loves, in Infinity War?
#54
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I fucking loved it and can't wait to see it again.
Cate was awesome as always. Tessa was just amazing and super sexy, she owned that role. The Strange scenes were hilarious and Hemsworth was great.
What was the second end scene? I thought I read there were 2, but I had to run out after the first one.
Cate was awesome as always. Tessa was just amazing and super sexy, she owned that role. The Strange scenes were hilarious and Hemsworth was great.
What was the second end scene? I thought I read there were 2, but I had to run out after the first one.
#55
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Enjoyed it. Dumb fun. Easily funniest Marvel movie, funnier than Ant Man. Biggest laugh was Banner falling onto the bridge, dead. Blanchett was the best part -I was, um, excited whenever she was onscreen.
Both post-credits sequences were lame.
Both post-credits sequences were lame.
#57
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In retrospect, now that the buzz has worn off, they totally fucking undermined everything that the Thor-verse stood for. People trash Dark World and that had one of the most emotional moments in his universe -- the death of Frigga. Imagine if they had played it for laughs? I can see that they basically retconned Thor and have started anew. We'll see how it goes from here. Still liked the film, but am not so much a fan of them making it a non-stop comedy.
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
It was funnier than Deadpool by a country mile. I recommed watching it again, as the funniest jokes were the most benevolent Korg was very optimistic, so his jokes worked. The fact that the movie is one insane trippy ride of the plot has to count for something. If you don’t like it, that’s fine, but for the movie they wanted to make, it was well executed, written, and directed with care imo. I couldn’t stop laughing at all the joke. There are many great one liners
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I liked it mostly, but not as much as some of you. I enjoyed a lot of the humor, but then the stuff on Asgard was pretty dark and I didn't feel the tones meshed well. Still I thought it was a lot of fun for the most part, and it's kind of fun to see a franchise rip up the script and go batshit crazy once in a while.
I thought Jeff Goldblum was a little too over-the-top, but I liked Tessa Thompson a lot in this (haven't seen Creed yet and thought she was really underutilized in S1 of Westworld). Blanchet was great, but isn't she always?
TL;DR : Liked it a lot, but didn't love it like I did the last two Captain America flicks and Spider-Man Homecoming.
BTW : Has there ever been in cinema a character who vacillated more between good and bad and done so with less obvious motivation? He's like the personification of a plot device. Love Tom Hiddleson in the part, but the character is kinda pointless by now. Who cares what he does next?
I thought Jeff Goldblum was a little too over-the-top, but I liked Tessa Thompson a lot in this (haven't seen Creed yet and thought she was really underutilized in S1 of Westworld). Blanchet was great, but isn't she always?
TL;DR : Liked it a lot, but didn't love it like I did the last two Captain America flicks and Spider-Man Homecoming.
BTW : Has there ever been in cinema a character who vacillated more between good and bad and done so with less obvious motivation? He's like the personification of a plot device. Love Tom Hiddleson in the part, but the character is kinda pointless by now. Who cares what he does next?
#60
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I felt it fit better the second time but the wind had left its sails since they used it earlier.
Surprised no one has mentioned the score yet (unless I overlooked it). Very synth 80's feel to it. I believe it was the first Marvel score that I have actually noticed and want to check out.
This movie is a blast. The humor hits (90% of the time). The cast is great. The visuals are stunning.
Question: Why was Surtur so easy to defeat at first and so powerful after? Eternal fire?
And I hope Thor gets his hammer back.
This movie is actually cute and funny like Guardians Of The Galaxy 1. Fortunately it is not like GOTG2 where it tries to be cute and funny and fails the majority of the time.
#61
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The Bridge was the worst joke to me. After non stop jokes the entire film, you could see that happening from a mile away.
#62
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If you didn't you were not paying attention.
Disagree completely. The song fits perfectly in terms of effectiveness, plot, and out right zaniness of the film. But to each their own. Who cares about what a game like Destiny uses for their promos? (which I don’t even remember, and I followed and played the game quite a bit upon release and was never good enough to justify the use of this song, and I have no interest in 2)
Great movie overall. Most of the humor was spot on. Some of the nitpicks in here about it are well just nitpicks. Can't wait to see the next one in May.
Not excited for this one at all. I can wait for video for this.
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Yeah, they should've held off on Immigrant Song just for that second time, and used something else that first time.
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Agree about the score, I thought it was great. It was done by Mark Mothersbaugh from DEVO(!!).
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
That was one of my main complaints about the movie, the Asgardians were a bunch of chumps. Granted Hela is stronger than all of them but they are really, really useless without Odin and/or Thor. That doesn't even take into account that they were so easily duped by Loki for years. At least Hogun got to do something compared to the other two, though.
Also the machine guns thing was a bit out of place. When he first showed them off as part of his trophy collection I thought good, that's the part I saw in the previews, he doesn't actually use human weapons, but nope.
Also the machine guns thing was a bit out of place. When he first showed them off as part of his trophy collection I thought good, that's the part I saw in the previews, he doesn't actually use human weapons, but nope.
I guess the machine gun thing worked for the film, but not for me either. As always, I had to wait for the credits to confirm Skurge was Karl Urban. That’s what makes him so good, but costs him in becoming a recognized actor. He’s just too damn good at being a chameleon.
Speaking about Planet Hulk, I know that the storyline was wasted in this Thor movie because contractually Hulk movies are complicated, but wish it wasn't as a throwaway story like they did in Ragnarok. Planet Hulk is one of the best Marvel stories in the past 25 years and it deserved to be told in a movie (besides the animated one).
BTW : Has there ever been in cinema a character who vacillated more between good and bad and done so with less obvious motivation? He's like the personification of a plot device. Love Tom Hiddleson in the part, but the character is kinda pointless by now. Who cares what he does next?
I can’t add much more at the moment. I am planning on a second viewing and have a question though: is the 3D worth it? I saw it in 2D IMAX last night.
#69
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Saw it again yesterday with the wife and church friends, I had fun watching their reactions throughout. Seeing it again tonight (!) with the local Comicon volunteer staff, most of whom have not seen it yet, so being with fellow nerds will be a LOT of fun. (I am kind of the elder statesman of the group...)
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Never thought I’d hear people complain about Immigrant Song used more than once in some pretty kick ass fight sequences. I thought the use of the song signified when Thor has his mojo and also when he got his real mojo going. And as far as a hammer? He could use any old hammer now, as he did with the fight with Hulk that was made of junk. Thor isn’t the God of Hammers, as we learned and knew after this draw with Hulk.
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This is also the most quotable Marvel movie ever. So many great lines. My wife and I were cracking up for a good half hour going over our favorite lines and moments, and that was just the tip of the iceberg. She loved Korg especially. I don’t know, perhaps it was the fact that my father died two days ago, but this was the Marvel movie I needed right now. I’ve seen it twice this weekend, and may see it again later this week.
#72
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Just got back from seeing. This is the funniest non-R-rated movie I have seen in many years! The first two Thor movies were just okay and utterly forgettable, but this one nails it. It's funner than either of the GotG movies, and the humour works almost all of the time. The only time I thought it majorly misstepped was Korg talking about re-building Asgard as it had good foundations, only for it to blow up seconds later.
Hemsworth was great as the lead, with excellent support from everyone else. Blanchett was excellent as Hela, but she disappeared for like 40 minutes during the middle of the movie. WTF?
Immigrant Song has to be one of the best uses of a song in a movie.
It will be interesting how they fit the tone of this new and improved Thor into the upcoming Avengers movies. Will he continue to be zany, or will he be toned down?
Hemsworth was great as the lead, with excellent support from everyone else. Blanchett was excellent as Hela, but she disappeared for like 40 minutes during the middle of the movie. WTF?
Immigrant Song has to be one of the best uses of a song in a movie.
It will be interesting how they fit the tone of this new and improved Thor into the upcoming Avengers movies. Will he continue to be zany, or will he be toned down?
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One of the podcasts I listen to talked about this ... I guess Disney has the rights to use Hulk in other characters’ movies but can NOT make a stand-alone Hulk movie. Thor: Ragnarok is supposed to be the start of a three film arc for Hulk that will encompass those storylines inside of other movies. I’m not familiar with Planet Hulk beyond the concept, so I don’t know how much is left to use.
That led to the creation of the Red Hulk which is basically General Ross Thunderbolt with the powers of the Hulk. I doubt any of this would be used in future storylines. Marvel would most likely use things like the Korvac Saga, Secret Invasion, and Siege before going back to the well with Planet Hulk.
#74
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Re: Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, 2017) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This was perfectly OK but kind of disappointing, given the massive amount of hype going into the film ("BEST MARVEL MOVIE EVERRRRR!!!!") The humor was hit-or-miss (when it hit, it did well, but there was a LOT of dead air), the plot fairly standard, and the performances energetic and willing. But there was a tired sense to the affairs, and the net effect was an "OK, that was nice, good fun, a nice time at the movies, but little else".
Of all the Marvel films this year (GotG2, S-M:H) this was third. All three were good to great, though.
A generous 3.5 out of 5.
Of all the Marvel films this year (GotG2, S-M:H) this was third. All three were good to great, though.
A generous 3.5 out of 5.
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By the way, anyone who criticizes a DC trailer for "using a classic rock song" needs a giant H branded right on their forehead.