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Old 11-27-17 | 11:51 AM
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My kids were more excited to see Olaf than Coco but man did it drag on and they were asking when is Coco starting about halfway through Olaf. I was pleasantly surprised by Coco. I didn't really pay attention to what it was about prior to seeing it but enjoyed it quite a bit. My kids were able to watch the entire movie without getting up or asking when it will be over. Amazing, considering how long the theater experience was with the previews/Olaf/Coco.
Old 11-27-17 | 03:18 PM
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Lots of people (well, on the internet, I'm sure a lot of kids were happy) were mad/confused about the Frozen thing:
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/...ure-hate-pixar

I thought it was dragging on but I didn't realize how long it really is, and how much longer it makes the theater going experience (which hey, you're paying big bucks to be there so more is good, though I understand especially adults without kids getting upset).
Old 11-27-17 | 03:55 PM
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Something I forgot to mention:

At my screening they showed trailers, followed by the Frozen short, then they showed a short feature of about three minutes featuring three people who directed/wrote/consulted on Coco.

What the fuck was that shit?

In film school we had a “no speeches” rule. No getting up and introducing your film with some speech or explanation. If you started down that path while introducing your work you would get heckled. I’ve never seen this before a first run of a feature. It was like they were doing a Fathom Events type of thing.
Old 11-27-17 | 04:48 PM
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It seems that they didn’t go to your school. I hated the whole thing because Josh Gag ruins everything.
Old 11-27-17 | 06:21 PM
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So there's no Pixar short? It's been replaced by a Frozen short film?
Old 11-28-17 | 09:27 AM
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Yes. And it’s 21 minutes. It was developed to be a tv special, but they decided to put it in theaters. On the one hand, you’re getting a double feature, something Disney frequently did from the 50’s through the 80’s. On the other hand you’re in your seat for a while.

My 6 year old had no problem.

FYI, Mickey’s Christmas Carol was released with The Rescuers in 1983. It is 26 minutes.
Old 11-28-17 | 10:00 AM
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FYI, Mickey’s Christmas Carol was released with The Rescuers in 1983. It is 26 minutes.
And the Rescuers itself is only 78 minutes, so 104 minutes total runtime, which is less than the runtime of Coco by itself. With Frozen in front if it, you're well over 2 hours (not counting trailers, which typically add another 15-20 minutes), which is a long time for a kids movie.
Old 11-28-17 | 10:09 AM
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More bang for your buck. My 6 year old didn't mind.

They could definitely shorten it by three minutes by getting rid of the weird directors’ intro.
Old 12-02-17 | 07:15 PM
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Goodbye Josh GAG! And take that weird snowman with you.

Disney will remove the awful 20-minute 'Frozen' short from 'Coco' this week - Mashable

http://mashable.com/2017/12/02/coco-.../#3z03ldxj7kqh
Old 12-03-17 | 06:13 PM
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Thank God! If the Frozen sequel is anywhere like the short, they shouldn't even bother at this point.
Old 12-03-17 | 06:18 PM
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Yeah hopefully that Frozen short will never see the light of day again. Hopefully there is no chance in hell it ends up on the BD of Coco. Would make no sense, even as a an extra.
Old 12-03-17 | 09:33 PM
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First of all the short isn’t that bad.

Can someone explain the logistics of removing the short? Coco and the short are all on one DCP right? Will Disney ship new DCP’s? Can theaters skip over Frozen?
Old 12-03-17 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mabuse
First of all the short isn’t that bad.
Yes it was, because Josh Gag ruins EVERYTHING.
Old 12-03-17 | 09:44 PM
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I would rather have my toes nails pulled out or watch Wing Commander instead of sitting through that Frozen short again.

Frozen - Fucking Animated Masterpiece.
Frozen Short - Fucking Animated Piece of Shit that is worst than the Star Wars Holiday Special (at least that's entertaining).
Old 12-03-17 | 10:52 PM
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Please please please can we have a ban on e unit typing Josh GAG? We get it, you hate Josh Gad.
Old 12-03-17 | 10:58 PM
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Have no idea where you got that idea.
Old 12-04-17 | 10:26 AM
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I'll probably see Coco next week after the short is removed. My mom and one of my sisters saw Coco yesterday -- the one in actual Spanish and loved it. I hope they put both versions on the BD like what was done with Book of Life.
Old 12-04-17 | 10:28 PM
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Saw this today, really liked it. I just had one problem with the plot
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Since it was the dead Great-Great Grandmother that despised music, and not her daughter Coco who still loved her father and music, couldn't Coco have just allowed music back in the family life after her mom passed. I guess maybe out of respect for the great-great grandmother she kept the ban alive.
Old 12-05-17 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mh4268
Saw this today, really liked it. I just had one problem with the plot
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Since it was the dead Great-Great Grandmother that despised music, and not her daughter Coco who still loved her father and music, couldn't Coco have just allowed music back in the family life after her mom passed. I guess maybe out of respect for the great-great grandmother she kept the ban alive.
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I think it was ingrained in her to hate music, though obviously a part of her still loved her father and music. That was actually the main problem I had with the film, the great great grandmother was actually kind of horrible, depriving generations of her family from experiencing music because of what happened.
Old 12-05-17 | 09:25 AM
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Yes, the only real problem with the film is the idea that a multigenerational music ban would be held in effect for 3 or 4 generations. It’s like you have to accept this really forced contrivance, and everything after flows pretty well.
Old 12-05-17 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mabuse
Yes, the only real problem with the film is the idea that a multigenerational music ban would be held in effect for 3 or 4 generations. It’s like you have to accept this really forced contrivance, and everything after flows pretty well.
Well, there are a few other nitpicks.

Spoilers ahoy:

Why/how is Dante a spirit animal? Miguel wasn't dead, do we just have a ton of spirit animals roaming around (I realize the other one also turned into a cat, just seemed a little contrived)

Why did it take Manuel to get Hector and Ernesto to talk, or Hector and Imelda to talk? They kind of hint that Hector tried to talk to Imelda before in the land of the dead, but she knows that they disappear when they're forgotten and over the decades she never cleared the air with him, she was just going to let him disappear forever?

They were all up in arms that Ernesto's crypt was broken into, but they never locked it back up before morning or picked up the guitar?

And of course, the major coincidences like Miguel even finding Hector in the first place.

But again, minor nitpicks, the movie is great.
Old 12-05-17 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mabuse
Yes, the only real problem with the film is the idea that a multigenerational music ban would be held in effect for 3 or 4 generations. It’s like you have to accept this really forced contrivance, and everything after flows pretty well.
But interaction with the dead is fine.
Old 12-05-17 | 12:44 PM
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But interaction with the dead is fine.
In all honesty, yes. Ha, ha.

I can believe Superman ripping a door off a safe, but I have a hard time believing he opens it by guessing the combination. Audiences will accept the supernatural, they will not accept the improbable.
Old 12-05-17 | 04:21 PM
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In all honesty, yes. Ha, ha.

I can believe Superman ripping a door off a safe, but I have a hard time believing he opens it by guessing the combination. Audiences will accept the supernatural, they will not accept the improbable.
Depending on ones viewpoints, the existence of a being such as Superman would be impossible. So, we could have the impossible doing the improbable. Yikes, this could almost be it's own thread, if it hasn't been already.
Old 12-05-17 | 04:24 PM
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I'm assuming some of the stuff depicted in the film went over a few people's heads considering it's rooted in Mexican culture.


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