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Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
#151
DVD Talk God
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
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This may struggle to just break even.
Took a 60% drop off week 2 (probably due to the high profile release of Jason Bourne)
So far it hasn't made it's production budget back with world wide grosses.
This may struggle to just break even.
Took a 60% drop off week 2 (probably due to the high profile release of Jason Bourne)
So far it hasn't made it's production budget back with world wide grosses.
#152
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
#153
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This is awful. They really nailed it this turn out and the marketing screwed the pooch. I'm hope to hell the international box office picks up some of the slack as well as the Bluray and DVD.
We should be getting another 2-3 movies with this cast.
We should be getting another 2-3 movies with this cast.
#154
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Bad marketing, worse timing
#156
Banned by request
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
As for Beyond, I think it's easily the best of the reboot series. It felt more like Star Trek than the other two did, and I loved how each character got their chance to shine and the whole crew worked together as a team. This was exemplified in the sign off where each character got to say a portion of the iconic lines. Pegg's love of TOS shines here and now that the crew has hit their stride I can't wait to see the next one.
Last edited by Supermallet; 08-02-16 at 06:43 PM.
#157
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Of the TOS movies, only one had the Enterprise in perfect working condition (The Undiscovered Country). TMP had warp and transporter issues. Khan has a skeleton crew and they initially take a ton of damage from Khan's first attack. Search for Spock the Enterprise is being mothballed and hasn't been repaired. The Voyage Home doesn't have the Enterprise. The Final Frontier the ship is undergoing repairs. Such lazy storytelling!
As for Beyond, I think it's easily the best of the reboot series. It felt more like Star Trek than the other two did, and I loved how each character got their chance to shine and the whole crew worked together as a team. This was exemplified in the sign off where each character got to say a portion of the iconic lines. Pegg's love of TOS shines here and now that the crew has hit their stride I can't wait to see the next one.
As for Beyond, I think it's easily the best of the reboot series. It felt more like Star Trek than the other two did, and I loved how each character got their chance to shine and the whole crew worked together as a team. This was exemplified in the sign off where each character got to say a portion of the iconic lines. Pegg's love of TOS shines here and now that the crew has hit their stride I can't wait to see the next one.
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#159
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
But First Contact takes place in 2063. "Magic Carpet Ride" is almost 100 years old by that point. So a character playing a 100 year old song is okay, but characters playing a 250 or so year old song is not?
#160
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
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This may struggle to just break even.
Took a 60% drop off week 2 (probably due to the high profile release of Jason Bourne)
So far it hasn't made it's production budget back with world wide grosses.
This may struggle to just break even.
Took a 60% drop off week 2 (probably due to the high profile release of Jason Bourne)
So far it hasn't made it's production budget back with world wide grosses.
That said, adjusted for inflation, it's going to be about as popular as Star Trek VI and Generations were...which is good, but far from great. I expect the budget for part four to be significantly less (Paramount's probably ticked they blew up the ship...they could have re-used those sets!).
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#161
DVD Talk Legend
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You're probably just joking but the bridge set could be given a fresh coat of paint and be fine for the new -A in the next film.
#163
DVD Talk Legend
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#164
Member
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
It's already passed GHOSTBUSTERS both domestically and worldwide. Add that to the fact that both Jason Bourne and (seemingly) Suicide Squad are disappointments, and Star Trek Beyond is going to benefit...not this weekend (which Suicide Squad will own), but perhaps the second half of August. It should at least make it to $150 million stateside and $225 million overall.
That said, adjusted for inflation, it's going to be about as popular as Star Trek VI and Generations were...which is good, but far from great. I expect the budget for part four to be significantly less (Paramount's probably ticked they blew up the ship...they could have re-used those sets!).![Smilie](/images/smilies/smile.gif)
That said, adjusted for inflation, it's going to be about as popular as Star Trek VI and Generations were...which is good, but far from great. I expect the budget for part four to be significantly less (Paramount's probably ticked they blew up the ship...they could have re-used those sets!).
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#165
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
They still expect upwards of $140m this weekend for Suicide Squad despite the reviews.
Bourne should drop about 64% - 65%, it's doing slightly worse than Beyond did during its first week (which lead to a weekend decline of 58.2%) and SS will be much bigger than Bourne was vs. Beyond.
Beyond could drop substantially, could hang in there, we'll know more in two days. My guess is about $14m - $15m this weekend, placing it at about $135m domestic after 3 weekends. Its international release has been extremely scattered, opening in South Korea on August 18th, China on September 2nd, and Japan on October 21st.
Bourne should drop about 64% - 65%, it's doing slightly worse than Beyond did during its first week (which lead to a weekend decline of 58.2%) and SS will be much bigger than Bourne was vs. Beyond.
Beyond could drop substantially, could hang in there, we'll know more in two days. My guess is about $14m - $15m this weekend, placing it at about $135m domestic after 3 weekends. Its international release has been extremely scattered, opening in South Korea on August 18th, China on September 2nd, and Japan on October 21st.
Last edited by RichC2; 08-04-16 at 03:25 PM.
#166
Member
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Beyond will lose most of its IMAX screens to Suicide Squad as well. Bourne will drop probably more than usual, but that series has an older demographic than Suicide Squad, so it might not drop as much.
#167
Member
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Besides XD, what other large formats are there in the US? IMAX is definitely the most significant of any of them, so losing that to Suicide Squad, while not extremely significant, won't help Beyond, nor hurt Bourne since Bourne viewers don't go in hoping to see it on a large screen format.
#168
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Besides XD, what other large formats are there in the US? IMAX is definitely the most significant of any of them, so losing that to Suicide Squad, while not extremely significant, won't help Beyond, nor hurt Bourne since Bourne viewers don't go in hoping to see it on a large screen format.
Regardless I don't see it really hurting either too substantially, I still see Bourne with a 60% - 65% drop and Beyond with a 45 - 50%.
#169
Member
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I hope that it's not worse for Beyond. Bourne it won't matter as much, since it will turn a profit for its relatively low reported budget of $120m and good international box office. I can't say the same for Beyond at this point.
Last edited by Brack; 08-04-16 at 04:01 PM.
#170
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Man, it seems like only Disney (Marvel, Star Wars) can have a huge box office hit these days.
#172
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Will a good run on Bluray and DVD help the prospects for number 4? I at least want to see how they hell they bring back George Kirk. If the series were to end with 4 pretty enjoyable movies, I'll consider that a decent run.
#173
DVD Talk God
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
However, no script has been written and no director has been hired, so things could always change.
#174
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
$225m worldwide is terrible compared to the first two entries of $385m and $467m. I'm not convinced the marketing is responsible for the significant drop in gross, but rather the release date of late July. The first two movies were released in May, but the movie probably had no chance to do well with Civil War (and to some extent Apocalypse).
#175
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
They missed big time with that BFG movie. Just a rough summer all around. I don't think there has been really one movie outside of Captain America that didn't get bad reviews and was a majority crowd pleaser like last year's Jurassic World.