Yeah I've steadily lost respect for him over the last year, he needs to learn when to just keep it to himself.

Yes, Zach's movie failed big time at the box office and might have hurt his chances of getting another lead role. But, you don't go around talking shit and acting like a big baby about it.

Surprised to see Blue Beetle taking over IMAX screens later this week. Definitely need to get another viewing in of Oppenheimer, though I would assume chances are good it will be back on IMAX screens at some point.

it's keeping the 70mm screens but yeah digital IMAX will likely be back early September or maybe during an awards season rerelease.

Talk To Me is now A24's 5th highest domestic grossing film. Not sure if it will pass Hereditary... but it could get close.

What's everyone's predictions for how hard Blue Beetle is going to flop?

Took a look at my theater's IMAX tickets for Thurs/Fri... yeah, just not a lot of excitement for it. My guess is it battles Barbie for #1 in the low to mid 20's, likely winning - which would be a great headline for it. But I still think the best case outcome is this film making 250m+ worldwide, and that's due to it being a well received film.

I'm going to guess it does worse than HM. I mean that movie set a really low bar. Cocaine Bear had about an equivalent opening weekend. It'll definitely do worse than Flash or Shazaam! Kids are back in school and nobody knows who TF Blue Beetle is. I'm going to guess $22 million.

Projections for Blue Beetle aren't great. I think it's a movie which may do well on home video.

Blue Beetle is being projected at $28m - $32m, but apparently is "over indexing" with Latino and hispanic film goers which gives them some hope that it will over deliver. So I'll go with $35m+ opening.

It'll mostly be the movie that overtook Barbie

All the reviews I've seen have mentioned it's a surprisingly good movie. I wonder if good WOM will be enough to push this higher than expected at the BO. The only thing I knew about Blue Beetle is there is a local exterminator with that name.

Only on the internet where keyboard warriors root for movies they haven’t seen to fail.

I don't see anyone rooting for BB to fail. Just making predictions. Unlike some corners of the internet that were really rooting for the Little Mermaid to fail.

It would be a feather in DC's cap to have Blue Beetle be a modest success (I would put that number at 250m) Still circling the drain overall, but any positive vibes they can grab would help.

Edit: It's early but the wknd projections are looking like 25m. Yikes, the DC bombings will continue it seems...

I don't know anything about the finances of these big studios, but if Warner Brothers didn't have the success of Barbie, would this year have like.... shut them down or something?

I wasn't talking about this forum specifically. I have seen on social media randos just laughing at Blue Beetle and just rooting and expecting it to be a big flop.

That's ridiculous. WB is not going out of business because The Flash lost hundreds of millions and Blue Beetle probably won't make money. Sure, it will probably cause some budget cuts and some jobs might be lost. And some smaller movies may not get the money they need to get made. It's ramifications are more spread out.

Okay. Like I said, I don't know anything about the operation of these business companies, was genuinely curious how bad this year was for them.

Oh gotcha. Yeah people are dicks. There are a lot of people involved in making movies that put a lot of hard work in to them. I wouldn't publicly be rooting for something to fail like that where those people might see that. But I guess that's just part of the job. You have to have thick skin to be in showbusiness.

I don't think I've ever rooted for a movie to fail. It's like a car wreck. You're going to gawk at it while hoping that the people are still okay. You're not going to wish for something like that to happen but if it doesn't you're going to stop and stare.

No bump for Blue Beetle vs early tracking, that's not surprising but a bit of a shame since I hear it's pretty good. If I weren't visiting my folks I would have caught Oldboy.

Gran Turismo "officially" opens next week even though it's had multiple early screenings. I saw the 1st screening 2 weeks ago and the buzz has been very positive. I think it will almost certainly take #1 next week. I liked it very much and it's a feel good underdog story, which I think will resonate with people.

https://collider.com/mission-impossi...e-541-million/

It looks like MI: Dead Reckoning Part 1 will make it to roughly $550M worldwide soon. It will pass MI:2, but that doesn't account for inflation since MI: 2 was made 23 years ago.

This says it would need to make $600M to break even. It's running on fumes now. I don't think it will make it.

My guess is a digital release date announcement will come in the next few months.

But, it is the lowest grossing McQuarrie directed MI: movie. Which kind of sucks because I think it was one of the best and most entertaining.

Yeah, I think It got released at the wrong time. It's been a relatively busy season for that genre of big budget action/adventure movie and they all seem to have cannibalized each other a bit. Also shows some fatigue with the quieter or more grounded movies doing better, especially Oppenheimer.

Overall though, some impressive BO numbers this year with Mario and Barbie exceeding $500m domestically, Guardians and Spider-verse with $350m+ domestic and Little Mermaid damn close to $300m itself. Oppenheimer will be next to cross the $300m threshold.
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I think the problems this Summer with the BO has all come down to two things. Timing and Disney. The Summer was just way too packed and packed with movies that appeal to similar audiences. I think that's why Barbie, Oppenheimer and even Sound of Freedom has done so well. It's counter programming to the entire summer.

This Summer we've had:
GotG
FnF
Transformers
Spider-Man
The Flash
MI
Indy
TMNT
Haunted Mansion
Blue Beetle

All vying for the young male action oriented audience. That's a really packed Summer. And it's a Summer where revenge travelling is still a thing and the economy is still kind of depressed and I think you've just got a situation where there were too many movies competing for the same or less amount of dollars. Everything in bold really underperformed compared to expectations. Most were outright bombs and will cost their studios a lot of money. I'd love to see overall movie attendance numbers for this Summer. I wonder if it was back to pre-Covid days. That would really reveal if the Summer had too many releases.

And Disney is just tanking. I think they've really damaged their brand with some of their decisions. Elemental, even if it did rebound a bit, really should have done well this Summer as a family movie with little competition. Little Mermaid, even though it did pull some impressive numbers, really should have done a lot better as one of their most popular IPs of all time.

I really think, and hope, that it was just too much competition this Summer. I think Tom Cruise had it right when he was kind of complaining about it. I know I really wanted to go and didn't have a chance too. One week in premium theaters is just not enough time. I think that the next one will have a good chance to do a lot better. But unless it really blows the doors off of the the BO I think it really will be the swan song for Tom Cruise's MI. I think especially if they market it as his last one and if they are still able to release it next year where there probably will be a lot less competition it should do really well.