How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?
05-09-18, 09:09 AM
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Love all the classic Cage movies mentioned here too.
He might be gone into B status but he gave us a lot of good stuff back in the day.
Maybe one day there will be another great Cage movie
And now there are Redbox original movies? Damnn what's next a Wallgreens original movie ?
05-09-18, 06:19 PM
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He probably played most annoying character in the history of movies when he played that redneck who wanted to kill Osama.
05-09-18, 11:17 PM
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05-10-18, 02:58 PM
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There's a lesser-known movie named Mom and Dad that popped up on Hulu (for free). A take on zombies (or maybe a reimagining of The Happening), where the parents all want to kill their children. Nic Cage is a lot of fun to watch in it. It's a short, fun movie.
05-10-18, 06:46 PM
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05-11-18, 12:38 AM
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I like Nic Cage. He still makes something excellent once out of every 6 or 7 movies. That said, I feel these clips belong in this thread.
05-12-18, 06:19 PM
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?
I saw the trailer for that and it looked entertaining. Thanks for pointing out it’s on Hulu.
05-12-18, 06:36 PM
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I liked but after so many bad movies not anymore.
All of the bad movies ruined the cred he built up in the 80's and 90's when he did good and entertaining movies.
All of the bad movies ruined the cred he built up in the 80's and 90's when he did good and entertaining movies.
05-12-18, 06:42 PM
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For as much crap as he gets (and deservedly so) he does pull off the occasional good performance sometimes. Stuff like The Frozen Ground and Joe are both decent movies with good performances.
05-14-18, 12:06 AM
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?
I’m voting “he always was, he just manages to punch above his weight class every now and then.”
11-12-19, 09:15 PM
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11-12-19, 09:25 PM
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I pulled this mostly from inri222’s (5 y/o list), plus IMDB, to form my list of things I think he was good in. My list won’t be comprehensive, since there’s possibly at least one movie out there that I haven’t seen but would like.
My list:
Raising Arizona (my favorite performance of his)
Leaving Las Vegas (great & haunting movie)
The Rock -> Con Air -> Face/Off (this trifecta imho shows his full transition from acting into over the top overacting he gets criticized for)
City of Angels (enjoyed this one, and he managed to dial back the zany overacting back to zero for this)
The Family Man (Cage was fine in this, but the movie itself is horribly depressing, nothing I’ll ever watch again, most likely)
National Treasure (what can I say? Fun Indiana Jones / DaVinci Code-esque movie)
Knowing (he got a little over the top here, but not too bad)
Kick-Ass (another fun but disturbing movie)
And... that’s about it. I know I’ve passed on a lot of his filmography, but many of those looked like blatant B movies.
My list:
Raising Arizona (my favorite performance of his)
Leaving Las Vegas (great & haunting movie)
The Rock -> Con Air -> Face/Off (this trifecta imho shows his full transition from acting into over the top overacting he gets criticized for)
City of Angels (enjoyed this one, and he managed to dial back the zany overacting back to zero for this)
The Family Man (Cage was fine in this, but the movie itself is horribly depressing, nothing I’ll ever watch again, most likely)
National Treasure (what can I say? Fun Indiana Jones / DaVinci Code-esque movie)
Knowing (he got a little over the top here, but not too bad)
Kick-Ass (another fun but disturbing movie)
And... that’s about it. I know I’ve passed on a lot of his filmography, but many of those looked like blatant B movies.
11-13-19, 02:18 AM
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The makers of Snakes on a Plane bring you... ANIMALS ON A BOAT.
11-13-19, 02:41 AM
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I feel like the reputation Nic Cage has deserves a figurative Face/Off with John Travolta. In the past 20 years Cage has made Bringing Out The Dead, Adaptation, Bad Lieutenant, Joe and Mandy. 5 films that in my humble opinion are excellent. Along with Lord of War, Matchstick Men, Kick Ass, Dog Eat Dog and Snowden, which were all at least decent/pretty good. Whereas John Travolta? I don't think he's made a really good film since The Thin Red Line in 1998. And he was in that for what? 5 minutes? Love Song for Bobby Long was pretty good I guess. But thats about it. I'd take it even a step further, John Travolta's entire career isn't even worth the last 20 years of Cage's. The 20 years that were supposedly Cage's terrible ones. I won't argue that Cage does a ton of crap, because he does. But there are other "A list" actors who have done much worse. Maybe its because Cage goes way over the top in his bad movies? I don't know.
11-13-19, 06:21 PM
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Could he get that one Oscar worthy role that could bring him back to good movies like Travolta did with Pulp Fiction?
Mickey Rourke had that with the Wrestler but then eventually he went back to the career he had before that nomination.
Mickey Rourke had that with the Wrestler but then eventually he went back to the career he had before that nomination.
11-17-19, 07:25 AM
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Come back!
Sounds awesome, will watch
Nicolas Cage in Talks to Star as Nicolas Cage in Meta Drama 'The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent'
Lionsgate, beating out several suitors such as HBO Max and Paramount, is in final negotiations to pick up The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent (can there be anything more Cage-like?), The Hollywood Reporter has learned. The meta movie project has a script by Tom Gormican and Kevin Etten, with Gormican attached to direct.
Cage, if deals close, would star as actor Nicolas Cage. The character is desperate to get a role in a new Tarantino movie while also dealing with a strained relationship with his teenage daughter. He also occasionally talks to an egotistical 1990s version of himself who rides him for making too many crappy movies and for not being a star anymore.
The Cage character is also under a mountain of debt and finds himself forced to make an appearance at the birthday party of a Mexican billionaire who happens to be a fan of Cage’s work and secretly hopes to show him a script on which he’s been working.
While he bonds with the man, Cage is informed by the CIA that the billionaire is actually a drug cartel kingpin who has kidnapped the daughter of a Mexican presidential nominee and is recruited by the U.S. government to get intelligence. The situation spirals even more dramatically when the Mexican brings over Cage’s daughter and his ex-wife for a reconciliation, and when their lives are on the line, Cage takes on the role of a lifetime.
The story is meta and includes nods to Cage works such as Leaving Las Vegas, Face-Off and Gone in 60 Seconds, while the script that Cage and the Mexican are writing begins to mirror events on the storyline. The project has tones of Adaptation, which starred Cage, Jean-Claude Van Damme’s meta movie JCVD, and the John Travolta Hollywood caper Get Shorty, among others.
According to sources, the script was shown to Cage accompanied with a letter that Gormican wrote, pleading his case and saying how the piece was a love letter to the actor, not something that made fun of him. Cage was convinced and became attached only in recent weeks.
The interest in the project was so high that sources say Cage is lining up to achieve a payday that would put him in the same range he was in when making such studio hits as Con Air and National Treasure.
Lionsgate, beating out several suitors such as HBO Max and Paramount, is in final negotiations to pick up The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent (can there be anything more Cage-like?), The Hollywood Reporter has learned. The meta movie project has a script by Tom Gormican and Kevin Etten, with Gormican attached to direct.
Cage, if deals close, would star as actor Nicolas Cage. The character is desperate to get a role in a new Tarantino movie while also dealing with a strained relationship with his teenage daughter. He also occasionally talks to an egotistical 1990s version of himself who rides him for making too many crappy movies and for not being a star anymore.
The Cage character is also under a mountain of debt and finds himself forced to make an appearance at the birthday party of a Mexican billionaire who happens to be a fan of Cage’s work and secretly hopes to show him a script on which he’s been working.
While he bonds with the man, Cage is informed by the CIA that the billionaire is actually a drug cartel kingpin who has kidnapped the daughter of a Mexican presidential nominee and is recruited by the U.S. government to get intelligence. The situation spirals even more dramatically when the Mexican brings over Cage’s daughter and his ex-wife for a reconciliation, and when their lives are on the line, Cage takes on the role of a lifetime.
The story is meta and includes nods to Cage works such as Leaving Las Vegas, Face-Off and Gone in 60 Seconds, while the script that Cage and the Mexican are writing begins to mirror events on the storyline. The project has tones of Adaptation, which starred Cage, Jean-Claude Van Damme’s meta movie JCVD, and the John Travolta Hollywood caper Get Shorty, among others.
According to sources, the script was shown to Cage accompanied with a letter that Gormican wrote, pleading his case and saying how the piece was a love letter to the actor, not something that made fun of him. Cage was convinced and became attached only in recent weeks.
The interest in the project was so high that sources say Cage is lining up to achieve a payday that would put him in the same range he was in when making such studio hits as Con Air and National Treasure.
11-18-19, 07:26 PM
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I admit I liked Vengeance the movie he did with Don Johnson.
11-20-19, 05:31 AM
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I suppose that Cage's career is made out to be much more of a punch line than Travolta's. The "Nic Cage does nothing but straight to video crap" narrative has so much more steam than the general consensus on Travolta's career. Even if like you say people consider his career a joke, its still majorly lopsided. In reality, Nic Cage has made some excellent films over the past 20 years, while Travolta hasn't made one. Cage's career is MUCH better, but his reputation is worse. Like I said, they need a figurative Face/Off.
11-20-19, 07:23 AM
#73
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I suppose that Cage's career is made out to be much more of a punch line than Travolta's. The "Nic Cage does nothing but straight to video crap" narrative has so much more steam than the general consensus on Travolta's career. Even if like you say people consider his career a joke, its still majorly lopsided. In reality, Nic Cage has made some excellent films over the past 20 years, while Travolta hasn't made one. Cage's career is MUCH better, but his reputation is worse. Like I said, they need a figurative Face/Off.
11-20-19, 09:05 AM
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Despite the fact that Cage has and money troubles and needs any POS movie he can get, he’s still an extremely talented actor when he gets the right material.
I just re-watched Adaptation again last night and forgot what a truly wonderful, Oscar worthy performance he gave.
I just re-watched Adaptation again last night and forgot what a truly wonderful, Oscar worthy performance he gave.
11-20-19, 10:54 AM
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I'll give the guy credit for at least accepting projects that have a certain level of production value behind them, and directors and crews who aren't just phoning it in. He seems like a reliable go-to guy for movie tech people (or actors or stunt guys) wanting to try directing, or moonlighting TV producers looking to direct, or cult guys like Cosmatos or Stanley in need of someone who's not afraid to get weird in a lead role. For better and worse, I'm glad he hasn't followed the path of Bruce Willis, who seems to parachute in for a couple of hours worth of shooting on one set. At least not yet -- Willis is nearly a decade older, so I guess we'll see. These appear to be the remainder of Cage's seven 2019 pictures (and he's got almost as many line up for next year):
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Last edited by Brian T; 11-20-19 at 11:01 AM.