Totally. I don't see these things being classics. Considering they're not all that good either.

Just got back form it and you know what, I liked it a lot. I really don't get most of the negative reviews and kinda feel like a lot of them just come from the mindset of "oh great ANOTHER Stallone movie". In fact, I would say this was easily my favorite action movie this year.

The new guys adapted well to the cast and I thought Antonio, Snipes, Ford, and Grammer were all good additions to the cast. I agree that it seemed like Antonio had no script but it worked well. Gibson also made for a good villain. I'm not sure if he was as good as Van Damme but he worked well in this.

The weakest parts not surprisingly come from the "new" Expendables. They just didn't have any charisma whatsoever and I honestly couldn't even tell you what the first names of any of them were. Ronda Rousey being the worst of them. Makes me wonder how she will do in Furious 7. If the goal was to spin them off to their own series they failed miserably in casting. It also stunk because seeing them compared to the old timers made me want to spend more time with the old cast.

I thought the action scenes were really good and even though you can see where there were some edits to get the PG-13 rating, the rating didn't really hold the action back too much. Seriously they must have killed a 1,000 men in the finale. I agree that the Stallone/Gibson fight was way to short and easily pales in comparison to the Van Damme/Stallone fight from 2.

Overall I had a lot of fun watching this movie. The action and stunts were well done and I had a huge smile on my face all the way through. Whereas a movie like The Raid 2 dissapointed me and bored me to tears this kept me entertained throughout and really that's all I asked for.

4/5

I will agree that none of these qualify as good movies. They are very much throw-backs to the kind of stuff made in the 80s . What I liked about the first one is that it managed to be a movie with that kind of feeling without coming across as a spoof of such movies. The second and third had too much self-parody and that really detracted from everything.

Side note: was Kelsey's Grammer's character originally going to be played by someone like maybe John Travolta or Nic Cage? He just seemed like an odd casting choice for this kind of movie.

One thing that sort of irritates me with these films is the casting of MMA stars. I've never really loved the idea of them being in the films from the get-go and don't really see how they fit in. I get that they're tough guys and girls but I'd prefer just action stars.

^ Same here. I wonder if Rousey's presence might have been meant as a lead-in to Expendabelles? She looked good in that red dress, but damn is she a lousy actor.

Rousey is insanely fuckable. She also looks a bit like Julia Stiles.

Yeah I wondered the same thing about Rousey's character. The weakest aspect of the new film by far though is the younger team members. None of them were built up well and just felt forced in. I know that the older stars can't do these films forever and maybe the filmmakers/studio wants to keep the franchise going but there are far better action stars that could fill those roles. None of the younger team members are memorable in the slightest.

I feel they should bring back Scott Adkins as a totally different character and have him be a member of the team. Hell, pair him with Donnie Yen. Or make Donnie Yen the next villain and have the final fight between Adkins and Yen (after Yen beats the living shit out of Stallone, like how Steve Austin beat him up in EX1 and Randy Couture had to finish off Austin in the end).

I'm sure it's to pull the younger demographic. Those that weren't at least teenagers in the 80's just can't get the same kick out of seeing Stallone and Schwarzenegger on the screen together

That was originally the plan. Cage was approached first and turned it down because I don't really know why. Travolta was approached also but had scheduling conflicts.

Yeah I can't mention again how bad the younger team members were. I get that they wanted 20 year old hearth throb types but none of them had any charisma at all. When the old stars were on screen you could see what made them stars in the first place. All of them just had that "it" factor that makes you want to watch the screen. The young guys were about as exciting as watching paint dry.

I wonder if this movie tanking stateside will convince them that PG-13 was a mistake?

In a weird way, that may have been the point. Barney thought he needed fresh blood to take out Stonebanks. That whole operation blows up in his face (literally) and its the older stars (notice that Galgo, who Barney initially rejected, is the one who rescues him) that have to save the day.

Probably not, especially in this day and age where the unrated cut comes out a few months later. I'm fairly sure they'll blame the leak though.

I would rathe Yen and Li have a rematch, or even take on the bad guy together, preferably with a proper choreographer. This franchise's lack of fisticuffs is unforgivable.

Every time I hear about Scott Adkins and seen what he's done, I feel the best he can do is fight Jeff Speakman. That's what we need now, an Expendables type franchise with action heroes from 80's B movies.

Jeff Imada. He has tons of 80's cred, is still active (and thriving), and can make even non-combatants look like fighters on screen.

Adkins is a total badass and Expendables 2 did him no favors whatsoever.

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They should get Isaac Florentine to direct Expendables 4.

Nah, he hasn't sold me at all. And I saw Ninja and Ninja 2, the Undisputed one, El Gringo, Universal Soldier...just something about him that is very lackluster. To each their own I guess.

I'll grant you that he doesn't have the charisma of Donnie Yen or Jason Statham. However, in terms of martial arts badassery, I'd put him right there with Yen.

Yeah. He ain't the best actor but point him in the direction to kick ass and he's amazing. Very athletic too. I still think they should have puy Adkins in the Batman suit for whatever fights he'll be in the new movie. We desperately need more detective work and more athletic/acrobatic ass kicking from Bats.

I remember when that was the rumor. He would have been a perfect fight double for Batfleck since both men are rather similar.

I now want to see a buddy cop movie with Arnold and Jet Li

At least Li's absence was explained that Trench pays more, a throwback to Li's line in the first one needing more money for his family. (Though there is a theory they are a couple: http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/ex...ppened#3o6381s)

I thought the movie was fine. Banderas and Gibson stole the show, and Rhonda did fine with what she had. Here's hoping Gibson continues getting more roles, cause he still has it.

It does suck that this is flopping. With 2.2 million downloads so far, there is no way that is not hurting the box office.

PG-13, Not Piracy, Killed 'Expendables 3'

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmen...expendables-3/

What's really dumb if you think about it is this. The first one was going to be PG-13 then changed to R after a huge fan backlash. The second was going to be PG-13 then changed to R again after a backlash. This time though after grosses dropped they decided the third time was a charm and edited it down to PG-13 knowing that would alienate a lot of their audience. Doesn't make much sense.