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Old 11-20-22, 11:59 PM
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Challengers of the Unknown: The Movie -- led by Mr. Terrific, with The Atom, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Firestorm, Geo-Force, Red Tornado, Bumblebee, Tim Hunter, Red Robin/Tim Drake, and Dolphin.

Investigating scientific anomalies all over the DCU.

Fuck the movie. Make it an ongoing HBO Max show but firmly set in Gunn's DCU.



Old 11-21-22, 12:41 AM
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Love the team you've enviisioned but I'd also like some adventures set in the Golden Age. Or pull a The Godfather: Part II but have the timeline hoping converge in one major storyline. Like mystery the GA team couldn't solve (or assumed was solved) that necessitates the MA team to retrace their predecessors' steps. Maybe get someone like James Rollins to write the story.

On a slightly different subject, what's up with Ted Kord in the Blue Beetle movie? Did they seriously re-imagine him as some villainous woman, or is Victoria Kord a new addition to the comics? Cos I can't find anything on her.

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Old 11-22-22, 07:15 PM
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Would be cool if the cut did eventually see the light of day.

Old 11-22-22, 08:38 PM
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Although not as heavily supported as the Snyder Cut, the Ayer Cut has amassed quite a following. What has leaked so far is interesting and I do look forward to seeing Mayer's true vision see the light of day.
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Part of me wonders how different the Ayer Cut actually is. I’m sure it is different but I kind of feel like it wouldn’t be as vastly different as the Snyder Cut and might be more or less the same film just edited differently. Maybe I’m wrong though.
Old 11-22-22, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike86 View Post
Part of me wonders how different the Ayer Cut actually is. I’m sure it is different but I kind of feel like it wouldn’t be as vastly different as the Snyder Cut and might be more or less the same film just edited differently. Maybe I’m wrong though.
Here's how different it's supposed to be:

Spoiler:
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Differences from Suicide Squad

The differences aren't anywhere near as extensive as those between Justice League and Zack Snyder's Justice League, mostly impacting the tone and feel rather than the events. Some of the known differences are:
  • The music would have been entirely score-based - no "radio songs."[9]
  • The first scene is June Moone discovering and releasing Enchantress in a jungle location. The next scene is an extended assault on Arkham Asylum by Joker's crew then he electroshocks Harley. There was more to the club and an argument between Harley and Joker in his car.[10]
    • June Moone's discovery of the Enchantress would have been more fleshed out.
  • The story of Joker's damaged teeth and "Damaged" tattoo would have been explained; Batman would have beaten Joker in response to the murder of Robin, breaking his teeth, and Joker would have gotten the tattoo as a reminder to Batman of the time he lost control.
  • Members of Joker's gang who are not present in the theatrical cut would likely have appeared, including Eyeball Man and Crying Baby Man who showed up in the first trailer; Muscle Man, and a man wearing a light-colored burka. Some are mentioned in the novelization, but all were present during filming and can be seen in behind the scenes videos.
  • Monster T would have killed himself for offending Joker - the easy way out.
  • The scene where Batman chased down Harley and the Joker would have been longer.
  • Harley would not have been listed as an accomplice in Robin's murder, correcting a timeline issue.
  • A scene detailing Slipknot's arrest would have been shown. Wonder Woman was rumored to be the one who captured him in current canon, but she does not make an appearance in Ayer's cut.[12]
  • Griggs' intimidation scene would have been longer, including Joker fondling Griggs' chest and kissing him.
  • There would be a scene involving Joker waiting for a government employee, Judge Witman, in his bed in order to get Van Criss Laboratories' name, as they would be able to disable the nano-bomb in Harley's neck.
  • Rick Flag and June Moone's relationship would have been developed further.
  • Amanda Waller would have released Enchantress intentionally to test her powers, rather than Enchantress escaping on her own.
  • Killer Croc would have started a conversation with Deadshot about doing some jobs later in Gotham City, revealing that he had secretly contracted Deadshot to deliver an important man's heart in the past.
  • Harley and Deadshot would have hooked up during the mission.
  • Enchantress' magical powers seem to be more colorful.
  • Katana would have been taken over by Enchantress during the final battle, then turned on the squad. This was shown in the trailers, with Katana's eyes going black and a magic cord tethering her to Enchantress' control as she slashes at Harley.
    • Killer Croc would follow suit, being turned by Enchantress.
  • Joker would have been present during the final battle.
    • He was to make a deal with Enchantress wherein she would make him King of Gotham. Joker would plan to march on Gotham with Enchantress' army, then make Batman his vice president.
    • Amanda Waller would have been strung up in the room of the final battle, and Joker would have entered with her detonator.[13]
    • He would fight alongside Enchantress and Harley would have to face him.
  • Diablo would have survived the final battle.
  • Joker breaking Harley out at the conclusion of the film would have included more antagonistic behavior from the Joker, with David Ayer posting a picture of Joker screaming in Harley's face on his Instagram profile. Joker would have pointed his gun at her.

Harley and Deadshot hook up

Eyeball Man, a character present in neither the theatrical nor extended cut

Crying Baby Man, a character present in neither the theatrical nor extended cut

Enchantress using her magic


The Joker after surviving the helicopter crash

Joker holding a gun to Harley

Katana is taken over by Enchantress

Harley Quinn in her wedding dress

An early version of the script, as well as concept art, also had Enchantress' strings pulled by Steppenwolf, the former turning humans into parademons instead of Eyes of the Adversary, but this was removed before filming began as the stories of Suicide Squad and Justice League fell into place, and so would not appear in Ayer's version.[14]

Ayer stated on Twitter that the first 40 minutes of the film were left on the cutting room floor (though he probably didn't literally mean every second of those 40 minutes).[15]
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SS's biggest problem was the villain, so unless they change that the movie is still going to fall flat no matter what the other changes are.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin View Post
SS's biggest problem was the villain
This is one of this instances where less isn't more.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin View Post
SS's biggest problem was the villain, so unless they change that the movie is still going to fall flat no matter what the other changes are.
I remember Ayer stating that he considers Waller the main villain of his cut. Personally, I wish they'd stuck to Steppenwolf pulling the strings. I t would have helped things feel a bit cohesive.

Today I finished watching all the DCEU films I own on home video (I never got JL '17 and BA isn't out on disc yet). As a whole, the DCEU is as disconnected as Phase 4 of the MCU. Sure they exist in the same universe and make occasional references to each other and past events, but they may as well all be as disconnected as Joker and The Batman. And what's up with use of real DC merchandise and comics in Shazam! and Black Adam? It was cute in the former but the joke feels worn and out of place in the latter. At the very least, they should have pulled a Logan and made fake comic books that would be inspired by the in movie super heroes.
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Old 11-26-22, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post
I remember Ayer stating that he considers Waller the main villain of his cut. Personally, I wish they'd stuck to Steppenwolf pulling the strings. I t would have helped things feel a bit cohesive.
Now that does sound interesting and now my interest is piqued. As it stands though SS sets up a world destroying villain akin to Thanos and the choice is to pull together the shittest band of b-characters and nutjobs to handle it? In a world where they know Superman and Batman exist, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to not rely on them. Hell, Batman is even in the movie, fire up the fucking Bat-signal. The entire premise collapses under the weight of it's own absurdity. If they just scaled back the villain and stakes of the mission, I don't think the movie would have been as eye-rollingly bad as it currently is.
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Old 11-26-22, 05:20 AM
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The Suicide Squad should be an asset Waller has to her disposal, for jobs superheroes with morals wouldn't do. In my opinion both movies failed in that regard, although Gunn's movie was a lot of fun.
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Old 11-26-22, 11:49 AM
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The Suicide Squad should be an asset Waller has to her disposal, for jobs superheroes with morals wouldn't do. In my opinion both movies failed in that regard, although Gunn's movie was a lot of fun.
I would say with The Suicide Squad it fit the purpose of Task Force X, because it was a mission she didn’t want the world knowing about the US’s connection to. If she sent in Superman he would have exposed the details behind it all, whereas “heroes” with bomb in their brains aren’t likely to rock the boat.
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