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RocShemp 03-30-14 06:25 AM

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For those keeping score:


How Biblically Accurate Is Noah? Here Are All the Ways the Movie Departs From Its Source Material.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...arts_from.html
As a Christian, I am okay with all that (though the giants in the Bible were actually the Nephilim).

Solid Snake 03-30-14 07:32 AM

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Not having seen the film... Seems like it was nothing too big of a change.

Or maybe I just don't feel like they are.

I just want a good movie.

RichC2 03-30-14 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 12061527)
Looks like a movie that connects with critics and fans of art movies, but flops with general audiences. A primary reason auteur filmmakers are seldom given large budgets anymore.

Despite the strong Friday and what appears to be mixed word of mouth, it actually went up to $18 - $18.5m on Saturday. Strong opening.

Sean O'Hara 03-30-14 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 12059808)
Also, semi stupid question, but is this the first time this story has been told on the big screen? outside of the 1928 version

How can you ever forget John Huston's The Bible?

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Why So Blu? 03-30-14 12:14 PM

Re: Noah (Aronofsky, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 
Seeing this tomorrow night!

Dr. DVD 03-30-14 12:50 PM

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Even with the decent opening weekend, I see this doing a "Where the Wild Things Are" and dropping quick the second weekend. Of course I will attribute that less to word of mouth and more to it having the new Captain America movie against it. I have no doubt that I will find "Noah" the better movie of the two, but Captain America more fun.

Artman 03-30-14 01:06 PM

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Thoroughly enjoyed it. I do think the number of watchers and their appearance went a bit overboard, I think having just a few and for them to remain more mysterious visually would've helped dampen the criticism and laughter. And Adam and Eve looked like the aliens from Cocoon...lol.

Still, great acting and visuals.. I have the soundtrack ordered. The shot of the multitudes on the rocks with the wave crashing up against it was probably my favorite... straight out of Simon Bisley's The Bible.

mostaccioli 03-30-14 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 12059808)
having seen it tonight, there actually is a little bit of that w Emma Watsons character (although obvs not shown)

As an athiest (& never having read the source material), i enjoyed the movie, & for the most part was able to follow it. Although there is kind of unintentional humor out of Anthony Hopkins' character Methuselah being obsessed with finding berries. Also the walking & talking rock creatures too, known as 'the watchers''

Also, semi stupid question, but is this the first time this story has been told on the big screen? outside of the 1928 version

nope. in the 1966 movie the bible.

mostaccioli 03-30-14 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32 (Post 12060540)
One lousy trick in the trailer is where Noah stands up to the bad guy, and says "I'm not alone". Wow, that's powerful, God is on his side. But in the movie, Noah is actually talking about the Watchers/Demons. They are portrayed as sympathetic creatures.

yep. i fell for that too.

Supermallet 03-30-14 04:41 PM

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To clarify, god is clearly on Noah's side throughout the film.

SethDLH 03-30-14 06:43 PM

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Aronofsky is one of my favorite directors, he hasn't failed me yet and I was extremely in the middle on this one. I didn't hate it by any means, but I was very indifferent to most of it. Emma Watson was fantastic, and Crowe gave his typical performance. It was entertaining but there were a few plot holes (in both the writing and the overall story/religion aspect) that annoyed me. I'd say it is my least favorite Aronofsky movie but better than most crap being shoved down our throats on a weekly basis. I'll buy it when it eventually gets cheap.

Ash Ketchum 03-30-14 07:16 PM

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Aaron Klein does a radio show on WABC-AM on Sunday nights and he talked about NOAH tonight. He took issue with the ways the film strayed from the Bible. He points out that in the Bible, Noah's three sons all bring their wives with them on the Ark, with the purpose of repopulating the Earth after the flood. In the movie, he says, Noah's purpose is to make sure no babies are born after the flood and he keeps the sons' wives off the boat, letting only one woman besides his wife on the boat because she's barren. If true, that's a pretty serious distortion of the Bible, don't you think? When the previously barren woman (played by Emma Watson, I think) gets pregnant thanks to "dark magic," it's, again, something not in the Bible.

Klein also claims that the movie's goal is to promote vegan ideology and a pro-animal, anti-human viewpoint. He adds that the reception after the movie's premiere offered only vegetarian dishes and that Aronofsky and Crowe are both avowed Vegans.

I haven't seen the movie and I'm just reporting what I heard. To anyone who's seen the movie, does any of this make any sense to you?

Ky-Fi 03-30-14 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 12062226)
Aaron Klein does a radio show on WABC-AM on Sunday nights and he talked about NOAH tonight. He took issue with the ways the film strayed from the Bible. He points out that in the Bible, Noah's three sons all bring their wives with them on the Ark, with the purpose of repopulating the Earth after the flood. In the movie, he says, Noah's purpose is to make sure no babies are born after the flood and he keeps the sons' wives off the boat, letting only one woman besides his wife on the boat because she's barren. If true, that's a pretty serious distortion of the Bible, don't you think? When the previously barren woman (played by Emma Watson, I think) gets pregnant thanks to "dark magic," it's, again, something not in the Bible.

Klein also claims that the movie's goal is to promote vegan ideology and a pro-animal, anti-human viewpoint. He adds that the reception after the movie's premiere offered only vegetarian dishes and that Aronofsky and Crowe are both avowed Vegans.

I haven't seen the movie and I'm just reporting what I heard. To anyone who's seen the movie, does any of this make any sense to you?

Can't agree that it was "anti-human", in that it seemed to me that the main conflict in the movie was that Noah was leaning in that direction, but:

Spoiler:
His wife and family thought he was wrong, and it was pretty clear that they were right and God did NOT want all of humanity destroyed. I didn't really see Methusala's gifts as "dark magic", because it seemed clear that he was faithful and separate from Cain's people who were defying God.

Ky-Fi 03-30-14 07:40 PM

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Oh, and while I liked the movie quite a bit, I did agree with the DVDtalk review that said the second half was a bit weak and meandering, and a little anticlimatic. And thinking about it some more, it did seem like once they got on the ark, the real drama should have been "hey, the world's been destroyed, and are we ever going to see dry land again?"---and that is played down quite a bit due to the other drama that Aronofsky inserted.

Drexl 03-30-14 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 12059808)
Also, semi stupid question, but is this the first time this story has been told on the big screen? outside of the 1928 version

Fantasia 2000.

Orbi-Wan Techno 03-30-14 08:18 PM

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So, if I am reading you guys correctly, this is NOT the prequel to Evan Almighty?

Supermallet 03-30-14 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 12062226)
Aaron Klein does a radio show on WABC-AM on Sunday nights and he talked about NOAH tonight. He took issue with the ways the film strayed from the Bible. He points out that in the Bible, Noah's three sons all bring their wives with them on the Ark, with the purpose of repopulating the Earth after the flood. In the movie, he says, Noah's purpose is to make sure no babies are born after the flood and he keeps the sons' wives off the boat, letting only one woman besides his wife on the boat because she's barren. If true, that's a pretty serious distortion of the Bible, don't you think? When the previously barren woman (played by Emma Watson, I think) gets pregnant thanks to "dark magic," it's, again, something not in the Bible.

Klein also claims that the movie's goal is to promote vegan ideology and a pro-animal, anti-human viewpoint. He adds that the reception after the movie's premiere offered only vegetarian dishes and that Aronofsky and Crowe are both avowed Vegans.

I haven't seen the movie and I'm just reporting what I heard. To anyone who's seen the movie, does any of this make any sense to you?

It's not anti-human, there's no dark magic.

Noah and his family don't eat meat, and that's contrasted with the villains, who eat meat raw. It doesn't say that we should all die and that only animals should live. It does however say that humans can't just treat animals however they like with impunity simply because we're human and they're not.

And you know what? Who gives a fuck if it deviates from the Bible? If you want to get the biblical account of Noah, read the Bible. If you want Aronofsky's (beautiful, heartfelt, and spiritual IMO) version, then see this movie.

RichC2 03-30-14 11:14 PM

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I'm curious to see how this does in the long run. There are a ridiculous number of versions of the original story, so it's kind of ridiculous to see people arguing accuracy. That said, there are religious folks that seem to be liking it and others that are hating it for the same reasons, it's kind of funny.

The more "faith-based" movies coming out lately (God's Not Dead, Heaven is For Real) kind of crack me up as well, Heaven is For Real looks terrible but has a few decent actors in it and at least it looks like they tried, what cracked me up for it was the "FOR GROUP SALES CALL" at the time of the trailer. Yeah, they know their audience.

Rypro 525 03-31-14 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 12062226)
Aaron Klein does a radio show on WABC-AM on Sunday nights and he talked about NOAH tonight. He took issue with the ways the film strayed from the Bible. He points out that in the Bible, Noah's three sons all bring their wives with them on the Ark, with the purpose of repopulating the Earth after the flood. In the movie, he says, Noah's purpose is to make sure no babies are born after the flood and he keeps the sons' wives off the boat, letting only one woman besides his wife on the boat because she's barren. If true, that's a pretty serious distortion of the Bible, don't you think? When the previously barren woman (played by Emma Watson, I think) gets pregnant thanks to "dark magic," it's, again, something not in the Bible.

re the bold part
Spoiler:
Noah does not know watson's character is barren with child until they are all on the boat & the flood happens

William Fuld 03-31-14 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12062302)
It's not anti-human, there's no dark magic.

My interest level just dropped.

mostaccioli 03-31-14 06:06 PM

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bottom line is the bible belt is upset with this movie the way star wars fans were upset with the last three star wars films.

Supermallet 03-31-14 07:30 PM

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That's a poor comparison. The SW prequels were terribly made, poorly acted, had shitty scripts. Noah is beautiful, with great performances, and a thought provoking, introspective script. The reason that Bible thumpers are mad is because it doesn't conform to their narrow minded vision.

TimeSkip 03-31-14 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12063402)
That's a poor comparison. The SW prequels were terribly made, poorly acted, had shitty scripts. Noah is beautiful, with great performances, and a thought provoking, introspective script. The reason that Bible thumpers are mad is because it doesn't conform to their narrow minded vision.

Funny, I'm the complete opposite of a bible thumper and I found the acting and script to be atrocious with nauseating dialogue. :p

Supermallet 03-31-14 08:28 PM

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Well then feel free to complain, but those are not the complaints from religious people/groups, most of whom haven't even seen the movie.

Artman 03-31-14 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 12062226)
I haven't seen the movie and I'm just reporting what I heard. To anyone who's seen the movie, does any of this make any sense to you?

I heard the co-writer on the radio last week explain the missing wives.. whether or not this was intentional or just their last minute explanation for it, who knows - but they do in fact come on the boat and leave the boat. Viewers of the film will get that...

"You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."

And that's really what it comes down to... the scripture interpretation is somewhat different than what we were taught in Sunday School... same with the additions. (which are actually rooted in scripture, but again... not in the way many are comfortable with) I myself didn't realize it wasn't customary to not eat meat pre-flood...that's something I'm doing some following up on for myself. I find it fascinating.


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