Elliot Page discussion thread (formerly Ellen Page)
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re: Elliot Page discussion thread (formerly Ellen Page)
To normalize means you literally treat whatever you are the same way you would with everything else. Why deny or lie by omission when people ask about it in the first place? Sure it probably isn't any reporter's business but when they asked just answer yes, I'm gay. When you avoid the question or pretend something else, human nature is to keep asking or poke at whatever that's you're hiding. Hence making it bigger deal than it really is. Take your partner out to events, take them out to dinners. The social environment we have today is already open enough that there is no need to hide. You perpetuate the idea that it's a big deal if you keep building the suspense time and time again until you need a big announcement later on. Fuck, more that half of the states in this country is recognizing gay marriages. She's no longer doing the LGBT community a favor at this point. She's perpetuating that it's still not a social norm to be gay.
First, your math skills obviously suck.
Second, if the society you live in is having heated arguments about whether or not homosexuals should have the right to marry, then homosexuality is not normalized (according to your own fucking definition!!).
#53
re: Elliot Page discussion thread (formerly Ellen Page)
To normalize means you literally treat whatever you are the same way you would with everything else. Why deny or lie by omission when people ask about it in the first place? Sure it probably isn't any reporter's business but when they asked just answer yes, I'm gay. When you avoid the question or pretend something else, human nature is to keep asking or poke at whatever that's you're hiding. Hence making it bigger deal than it really is. Take your partner out to events, take them out to dinners. The social environment we have today is already open enough that there is no need to hide. You perpetuate the idea that it's a big deal if you keep building the suspense time and time again until you need a big announcement later on. Fuck, more that half of the states in this country is recognizing gay marriages. She's no longer doing the LGBT community a favor at this point. She's perpetuating that it's still not a social norm to be gay.
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The problem with that is who cares about John Travolta anymore? I guess the 40+ age female demographic maybe?
I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.
I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.
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I thought Kevin Spacey came out? Maybe it's just that obvious. And c'mon, Hugh Jackman is the king(queen) of musical theater..
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the guy in the wife beater looks like an overweight Bob Odenkirk.
#63
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Ellen Page's career as a major lead actress is pretty much over. Not because she's gay, but because she still looks and sounds like a 16-year-old teenager and will probably look and sound that way well into her 40s. She's afflicted with what is known in the business as "Ralphmacchio-itis".
However she can still have a long career playing quirky supporting roles and as the lead character's gay best friend.
However she can still have a long career playing quirky supporting roles and as the lead character's gay best friend.
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The problem with that is who cares about John Travolta anymore? I guess the 40+ age female demographic maybe?
I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.
I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.
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Winona Ryder is another major actress whose career hit a sinkhole because she never really "aged" enough to make a successful transition to lead adult roles (plus the shoplifting). It's only been in recent years that she's actually started to look mature enough to play "mom" roles (and even then she was barely believable as Spock's mom).
However, I will say that Natalie Portman has managed to overcome her petite size and youthful look to still be a major star into her 30s, but she is way more beautiful in a Hollywood glamor type way than Ellen Page.
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Ellen Page's career as a major lead actress is pretty much over. Not because she's gay, but because she still looks and sounds like a 16-year-old teenager and will probably look and sound that way well into her 40s. She's afflicted with what is known in the business as "Ralphmacchio-itis".
However she can still have a long career playing quirky supporting roles and as the lead character's gay best friend.
However she can still have a long career playing quirky supporting roles and as the lead character's gay best friend.
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Either way, rumors have been circulating a long time, and Hugh is supposedly a very sweet man, a true professional, very nice to everyone, and is quite the multi talented performer... so people don't like to dig too deep.
There's a lot of other stuff out there too in regards to Hugh's proclivities its just how far you want to dig. Make of it what you will
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They did In Vitro but Had two miscarrages out of it. Seems like they couldn't make one normally? But I'm iffy on those details. I'm not patient enough to dig into it.
Gay or not. He is awesome. I wish him nothing but continued success in being awesome. I'd like to see him work with Aronofsky again. So close to a 2nd flick with them.
Gay or not. He is awesome. I wish him nothing but continued success in being awesome. I'd like to see him work with Aronofsky again. So close to a 2nd flick with them.
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Still, Spacey possibly alludes to the
answer, saying, "Look, at the end of the
day people have to respect people's
differences. I am different than some
people would like me to be."
answer, saying, "Look, at the end of the
day people have to respect people's
differences. I am different than some
people would like me to be."
There's always the thought that when someone sidesteps the question, they don't want the truth out just yet.
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