slop101

Look at this dumb bitch.

Complaining that the movie's glorifying the characters' actions, completely oblivious to the fact that it's an absolute indictment of them, their types and the system in place that allows them to thrive.

Oh, maybe that's because she hasn't even seen the movie...

It's like reading a movie review from someone who hasn't seen the movie their reviewing.

Why So Blu?

I'd bang the shot out of Margot Robbie as Alien. I'd even bang her in her regular get-up.

That's how I roll.

Why So Blu?

AND she hasn't even seen the movie.

hanshotfirst1138

People are allowed to freely espouse opinions and criticism about art, and are under no obligation to agree with my opinion, the popular opinion, or much of anything else. But I have very, very, very little patience for the "I haven't seen it but" argument in much of any context about much of anything.

Solid Snake

I was thinking the same thing.

The guy can't be taken down. Marty is really that good at staying fresh.

Rypro 525

and to think people said he was "finished" after Bringing out the Dead "underperformed'

brayzie

But aren't many movies that feature anti-heroes or criminal protagonists end up being glorified in the way their presented, regardless of the message of the film? Sure, the main characters have to face the consequences...but what a ride.

Ash Ketchum

She's a genuine victim of Jordan Belfort and his crew and her grievances are legitimate. I don't blame her for refusing to see the film. I urge all of you to read her piece yourselves.

Solid Snake

Her grievances are legit but her opinion of what the film is? Aren't legit.

Sucks to have been her when turns out your dad is a crook like that. But her accusations of the film are horseshit. It doesn't promote the actions or make them admirable.

brayzie

It certainly makes it more appealing when the lead is played by Leonardo DiCaprio, scenes of criminality and debauchery are accompanied by a great soundtrack, and after stealing $110 million the character only does 3 years in prison and is then free again, having become a motivational speaker.

RichC2

It's like a mob victim not wanting to see Goodfellas. I guess.

Ash Ketchum

And he had a light sentence because he ratted out his associates. And didn't he recruit a bunch of them? Which makes it even worse, in my book. "Hey, join me and help me make all this money and then I'll squeal to the Feds about you and get off lightly."

slop101

But it's also like blaming DeNerio for endorsing his character's lifestyle in that movie, which is horseshit.

RichC2

Oh, yeah, he totally deserves blame. Since you know, actors choose parts strictly on moral grounds, not because it might be interesting to play a certain character.

Dan

Jordan Belfort posted this to both of his Facebook pages (personal and fan page).
He could be full of shit, but if he's not lying, at least that's something...

OldBoy

good post. but i wouldn't believe a single word from his mouth.

slop101

"fans"?

johnnysd

I think it would be a good topic for conversation, but I can totally see someone thinking that the movie glorifies the characters and lifestyles presented in this movie as there is no balance and very little consequence shown in the movie. I do not personally agree with it, but I think that is a very accurate view of the film from a certain standpoint.

The Bus

There is ton of consequence. A few times they got chlamydia after they banged all those ladies.

Rypro 525

"i will admit the quaaludes were kind of fun, at least in the beginning'

bluetoast

Here's a Hollywood Reporter roundtable with Scorsese, Terence Winter, DiCaprio and Jonah Hill. Short but good:

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keith71

Loved this movie, thought it was one of Scorsese's best movies ever.
The 3 hrs just flew by.
Now, what do you think this movie's Oscar chances are? I imagine it will be nominated for several Oscars, not sure if it win in the bigger categories like Best Picture. I'm guessing the more conservative mbrs of the Academy might be put off by this picture's naughty language and nudity and vote for a more "feel good" flick like Gravity.

Shannon Nutt

Remember when DANCES WITH WOLVES beat out GOODFELLAS? Similar situation this year - 12 YEARS A SLAVE will beat out THE WOLF OF WALL STREET for Best Picture, but a decade from now, we'll all still love WOLF and 12 YEARS will be a passing memory.

hanshotfirst1138

Don't go on the IMDB and tell rainbird131162.

Finisher

Sounds about right.

The Wolf of Wall Street is just bravado filmmaking. Interesting that Scorsese worked with a dp he had never worked with before. Were Deakins and Richardson busy? Rodrigo Prieto isn't on their level but it almost felt like a conscious effort to be less showy (at least by MS standards). Make no mistake, you're getting trademark Scorsese flair it's just a little grittier.

Also, material is tough. Belfort is an unlikable scumbag for the most part. He is screwing over people who can't afford to be screwed over. DiCaprio - and frankly almost the entire cast - killed it though. He made you pull for the character despite his ugliness; you did not want to see him get caught nor did you want to see the party end. Really a testament to DiCaprio's skill as an actor and Scorsese's skill as a director.