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Old 01-09-15 | 05:59 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Kinda remembering he was a "good guy" kind of in that first Superman/Batman Loeb arc, I looked up what happened to reform Major Force. Apparently nothing. And the guy really likes killing women associated with Green Lanterns and stuffing people into household items. Thanks DC!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_F...and_punishment

If they were going to do just a completely over the top, pseudo sci-fi film, I'm sure Morrison would be on board to provide the wackiness.
Old 01-09-15 | 07:41 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by RocShemp

I've still seen the occasional article that incorrectly claims that she was dismembered.
Because stuffing a women into a fridge for the sole purpose of giving our hero purpose isn't bad. But once you toss in dismemberment then, well, the gloves come off? There's proper reason to be pissed off at DC in the 90's and this is one of them regardless if they cut up the body or not.

Then again, having a fridge be Kyle's weakness is as fitting as having the color yellow be Hal's.
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Old 01-09-15 | 08:09 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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Then again, having a fridge be Kyle's weakness is as fitting as having the color yellow be Hal's.
Don't forget Alan Scott's weakness is wood.

If Hal and Alan teamed up, the greatest threat to them would be a number 2 pencil.

Also, Alan is gay now in the New 52. That makes his wood weakness even more hilarious.
Old 01-09-15 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Because stuffing a women into a fridge for the sole purpose of giving our hero purpose isn't bad. But once you toss in dismemberment then, well, the gloves come off? There's proper reason to be pissed off at DC in the 90's and this is one of them regardless if they cut up the body or not.
Preaching to the choir, buddy. That's why I said that I don't get why the correction needed to be made since her death by strangulation isn't any less horrible regardless of what was done to her body after-the-fact. But I guess no one cares unless they also turned her into chuck steaks.
Old 01-09-15 | 09:33 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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I still have absolutely no expectations for anything in the DCCU, but I'd certainly prefer this broken up if this thing is so super-stuffed to begin with. Sitting through bloated movies with nearly 3 hour runtimes seems to be the norm nowadays and it's not my preference.
You are in for a treat my friend ... Not one, but TWO 3-hour movies!
Old 01-09-15 | 09:37 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

OMG! Two movies?!? DC is so clueless, they just need to copy Marvel. I have no faith in them at all.

Actually two movies in quick succession is a decent idea to kick start their universe. I like the idea, now they just need to deliver on two kick ass movies.
Old 01-09-15 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by fujishig
Hey, it wasn't just women, they hated all minorities in the 90/00s too.

It's telling that Timm and co. had to kinda stretch to introduce a second woman and a black man into their Justice League to give them some kind of diversity.
That is just not true, DC temporarily retired many legacy characters and introduced minority versions of them in the 1990s. It actually got a little ridiculous at one point since it became so predictable.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Actually two movies in quick succession is a decent idea to kick start their universe. I like the idea, now they just need to deliver on two kick ass movies.
Old 01-10-15 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Abob Teff
You are in for a treat my friend ... Not one, but TWO 3-hour movies!
Four if you also count the two Justice League movies that will follow.
Old 01-10-15 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Four if you also count the two Justice League movies that will follow.
Don't forget Suicide Squad. It's coming after Dawn of Justice, but before Justice League. Here is the announced list of movies through 2020:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comi...se_films#Films

Why DC is shoveling in the Suicide Squad this early is very odd. I guess it's because they are semi-popular now since they have been on both the Arrow TV series and Arkham video games. Still seems a very odd choice for a movie, especially this early in DCCU.
Old 01-10-15 | 07:01 AM
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Don't forget Suicide Squad. It's coming after Dawn of Justice, but before Justice League. Here is the announced list of movies through 2020:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comi...se_films#Films

Why DC is shoveling in the Suicide Squad this early is very odd. I guess it's because they are semi-popular now since they have been on both the Arrow TV series and Arkham video games. Still seems a very odd choice for a movie, especially this early in DCCU.
Well, if Batman is supposed to be well establish (and semi-retired) by the time the events of Man of Steel occurred, it's not unlikely most of the Rogues and the other superheroes have also been doing their thing for quite some time already. It's probably that Superman's appearance has shaken the status quo.

What I'd like it know is if they'll address the likelihood that many of these villains and heroes probably encountered Kal El already before he stepped out publicly as Superman.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Well, if Batman is supposed to be well establish (and semi-retired) by the time the events of Man of Steel occurred, it's not unlikely most of the Rogues and the other superheroes have also been doing their thing for quite some time already. It's probably that Superman's appearance has shaken the status quo.

What I'd like it know is if they'll address the likelihood that many of these villains and heroes probably encountered Kal El already before he stepped out publicly as Superman.


Yes, I know that Batfleck is supposed to be an older veteran already by the time of Dawn of Justice. I just mean that Suicide Squad as a movie is an odd move when they could do something that is more guaranteed to be a hit such as a Flash, Green Lantern, or Wonder Woman movie first.

The DCCU is borrowing heavily from the New 52 with Cyborg being a founding Justice League member and things like that. Also in the New 52, Bruce Wayne and Hal Jordan had been Batman and Green Lantern respectively for about 5 years before Clark Kent became Superman. Wonder Woman is essentially eternal because she is a demi-goddess. The old molded out of clay origin is no longer canon, and she is actually a daughter of Zeus in the New 52, and I remember reading that this new demi-goddess origin is the one being used in the DCCU as well. So she is like Thor and the Asgardians and has been around for hundreds (or thousands) of years. So Superman was actually the last superhero to appear in the New 52, like in the DCCU apparently.

I wonder if the movies will address the whole thing with the Green Lantern Corps letting Krypton explode. In the comics, Tomar-Re was the Green Lantern guardian in charge of protecting the space sector where Krypton was. I wonder if the movies will bring that up. Probably not, but it would be an awesome nerd moment to tie in.

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

I don't see why they couldn't mention the Green Lantern/Krypton connection, it ties things and gives the story more weight. It only takes 2minutes to say it and makes the Superman/Green Lantern more rounded characters
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I don't see why they couldn't mention the Green Lantern/Krypton connection, it ties things and gives the story more weight. It only takes 2minutes to say it and makes the Superman/Green Lantern more rounded characters
Yeah. The one problem with doing that though is it makes you wonder what the Green Lantern Corps was doing when Zod was invading and trashing Metropolis. Why didn't they intervene?
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Yeah...this won't flop. Don't be dumb fuck about it, guys. It's Batman, he's coming off the wildly successful Nolan trilogy. People love him more than ever. Now... if it trailers REALLY REALLY make this look horrible... there's a chance that could make some small dent. But... it's Batman. He's pretty fucking popular. As an image in iconography, he's probably more popular than that white Jesus some of you love.
Somewhat on point:

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Somewhat on point:

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This is how the church should be trying to convert people:


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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
OMG! Two movies?!? DC is so clueless, they just need to copy Marvel. I have no faith in them at all.

Actually two movies in quick succession is a decent idea to kick start their universe. I like the idea, now they just need to deliver on two kick ass movies.
Except announcing this now when all this time prior they had people thinking it'd be one film comes off as an odd and rather sloppy decision. It seems like they're just making shit up as they go and don't have a solid idea of what they're doing.
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It's not that unusual for WB, they split up the Harry Potter franchise into multiple movies for some of the sequels. I never understood why they had pushed it back to 2016 in the first place.
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What? They split only the last HP into 2 movies. As for this debacle, methinks this will be one of WB's greatest fuck ups. It's going to be glorious to watch.
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It's not that unusual for WB, they split up the Harry Potter franchise into multiple movies for some of the sequels. I never understood why they had pushed it back to 2016 in the first place.
Only the last book (Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows) was split into two movies.

I really wish the last four books had been two movies each. The last four books are behemoths at 600-900 pages each. The first three books were only about 300 pages each, so they were fine as one movie, but the latter four books definitely needed more screen time.

The latter movies are lacking because a lot of stuff had to be cut out to fit into a 2 hour movie. Harry Potter & The Order of the Phoenix was the longest book at just under 900 pages, but yet it had the shortest run time in the movies.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

I've only seen Azkaban, the first HP one, and the last one. I thought as a ratio that Azkaban was the shortest compared to its source length?
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Books are increasingly bigger as the series went on. Year 1 was the shortest book, and 7 was the biggest. The first book was about 300 pages in hardback. The last one was about 800.
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
I've only seen Azkaban, the first HP one, and the last one. I thought as a ratio that Azkaban was the shortest compared to its source length?
According to wikipedia, these are number of pages in the books and the run time of the movies:

1. Sorcerer's Stone = 309 pages, 152 minutes
2. Chamber of Secrets = 341 pages, 161 minutes
3. Prisoner of Azkaban = 435 pages, 142 minutes
4. Goblet of Fire = 734 pages, 157 minutes
5. Order of the Phoenix = 870 pages, 138 minutes
6. Half-Blood Prince = 652 pages, 153 minutes
7. Deathly Hallows = 759 pages, Part 1 = 146 minutes, Part 2 = 130 minutes, total run time = 276 minutes

The Prisoner of Azkaban movie was fine. It was longer and more mature than the first two, but it still didn't approach the complexity of the last four. Order of the Phoenix has double the number of pages and runs six minutes less in the movie compared to Azkaban. Watching the Phoenix movie, and it is very obvious a lot of stuff was cut out from the book.

A few things were cut out of the Azkaban movie, but most of it was pretty minor. The only major thing I wish the movie would have included is the backstory of the Marauder's map. The movie only barely mentions the map at all, and briefly says that it was created by Moony, Padfoot, Prongs, and Wormtail. Those four were Remus Lupin, Sirius Black, James Potter, and Peter Pettigrew respectively. They created the map when they were childhood friends. The movie does mention that Sirius and Peter are Animagus (Sirius can turn into a dog and Peter can turn into a rat) which is where they got the Padfoot and Wormtail nicknames. Remus is of course a werewolf, and so he was nicknamed Moony. James Potter is Prongs because he is an Animagus that can turn into a stag deer. The movie never mentions this at all. It's also why Harry's Patronus is a stag is because of that. None of that is vitally important, but it is some cool backstory that I wish was in the movie.

Originally Posted by trespoochies
Books are increasingly bigger as the series went on. Year 1 was the shortest book, and 7 was the biggest. The first book was about 300 pages in hardback. The last one was about 800.
This is incorrect. Deathly Hallows was not the longest book. Order of the Phoenix was the longest.

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Old 01-10-15 | 02:01 PM
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Okay, so a Phoenix was longer. The takeaway from all this is that this Batman/Superman movie is gonna suck something fierce.


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