Star Wars fans will are now going to feel the pain of discerning Trekkies who endured the dumbing down of their franchise. You think Episodes I-III were retarded? You ain't seen nothin' yet. Lens flares are the tip of the iceberg. Mickey Mouse-hands. The Willy Wonka-slide. Michael Bay-vibe from the first to last frame. And any complaint will be meant with pop culture ridicule. Sorry, guys.

Josh Holloway as Han Solo's son. Sold.

HA. Hilarious. Star Trek has been dumb since DS9 went off the air. First Contact was great but everything else (Voyager, Enterprise, Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis) has been absolute shit. The fact that Star Trek (2009) didn't make me want to claw my eyes out means it's already the best thing that's happened to the franchise in a well over a decade.

And considering that the prequels were somehow WORSE than those awful Next Gen movies, I really don't see where you get the idea that things were somehow good before for either franchise. Besides your own blind and irrational hatred of the best thing that's happened to Trek since 1999.

Just last month:
And the month before that...
I'd like to know what he has to say now, probably something like: Well, they offered me lots of money and I just said OK after thinking it over.

Well, if you don't have a problem with "bad boy" Kirk stealing a car, hiding under a bed, the painful, contrived opening segment...all the soap opera cliches... on and on... I don't know what to say to you....

The lens flares didn't make you want to claw your eyes out? You don't wear a VISOR do you?

[QUOTE=KillerCannibal;11552973]My biggest concern here is that Abrams will bring in his team of single-minded FX artists to create new creatures in this universe that look like everything does in his universe.[QUOTE]

Or they could create creatures that look nothing like anything that already exists in the Star Wars universe ... oh, wait ... yeah, Lucas did that already.

Dagobah, this is!

Nope. It was a visual choice I didn't even notice until the Internet nerds blew up about it. You must have preferred the "made for SyFy" Nemesis instead...since the new one was SUCH a step down from what came before.

That stuff was TAME compared to the nonsense in almost all of the other Trek films.

Behold the template J.J. will use for Star Wars. (First tested on Trek):



"B-b-but, it's popular with the public, therefore it's good!!!"

Still far better than any prequel movie.

Aerosmith certainly thinks so.

I think it's great because I've watched a shitload of Star Trek in my life and it's the best thing to come out of the franchise in years. What's better? Nemesis? Insurrection? Enterprise? You've got to be joking.

The fact that people rewarded it with an excellent box office is just icing on the cake. I'd love it even if I was the only one. but sometimes we all get lucky and great movies make great money. I'm sure the next one will be even better.

And guess what...you don't have to see any of this stuff. So what's your problem?

I'm just bummed out that the Star Trek reboot means we'll never get a Deep Space Nine movie.

I was worried that Star Trek was going to be a terrible CW Version of the show but it wound up being tremendously entertaining even if the CW part isn't completely false.

I've enjoyed 2 of the 6 Star Wars movies (I always found Return of the Jedi idiotic, and the prequels all put me to sleep), but I'll give this benefit of the doubt.

lol

My problem is that its going to set a precedent to whoever gets the creative reins of Trek next. Like Deep Space Nine, you say? Well, guess what--we're never going to see anything that complex or deep associated with Trek again. Paramount learned that schlock sells.

As weird as sounds Trek means something to me. It's been a life preserver in some really hard times of my life. It saddens me that it will be substance-free garbage from henceforth.

[And yes, Enterprise sucks. No argument. But, it's Schopenhauer by way of Asimov compared to what Abrams squeezed out. The TNG were all flawed films, but at least they were honest attempts at being Star Trek with varying results rather than being deliberate pablum.]

I really feel there will be a clash between his idea of the "Mystery Box" and their idea of selling the Star Wars name to anyone who asks!

Yeah, like that was ever going to happen. And people thought Eps VII to IX were a long shot...

DS9 can always happen, always .Crazier shit has happened. Hell it's only a matter of time, just fucking they'll get an aged Benjamin Sisko back at it ala aged Kirk in the movies.

Bummer.

Was hoping for Damon Lindelof

At least you don't have to worry about him dumbing down Star Wars bc it can't be done.

I doubt that the higher-ups are going to allow any director to drastically change the "look" of a Star Wars "episode" movie. Like I said earlier, off shoots, etc, then sure, let the director express more of themselves in terms style, but they'll keep the "episode" movies fairly consistent in regards to overall appearance I'm sure.