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The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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Old 12-15-12 | 12:00 AM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Nick Martin
The Dark Knight Trilogy: Full Circle

Great photo comparison of events, shots and traits across the films:

http://imgur.com/a/3EpQo


If only the third's plotting and logic were just a bit tighter.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

I hate to interrupt the serious conversation, but ...

The doctor ... was that Lt. Dangle?!
Old 12-15-12 | 12:14 AM
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Yes, yes it was. And I think he kind of eye raped Bruce Wayne.
Old 12-15-12 | 12:14 AM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Nick Martin
The Dark Knight Trilogy: Full Circle

Great photo comparison of events, shots and traits across the films:

http://imgur.com/a/3EpQo
Can I get the three photos in the "Batman always wants to know where something/someone is." section re-captioned to read "Where's Carl?"
Old 12-15-12 | 12:43 AM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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I hate to interrupt the serious conversation, but ...

The doctor ... was that Lt. Dangle?!
Indeed.

And it's not the first time he's been in a Christopher Nolan movie, either!

http://youtu.be/K9lOnmnj0IY?t=2m20s
Old 12-15-12 | 07:12 AM
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He didn't stop the hack. He didn't stop Bane. He prevented the cops from stopping the hack or catching Bane.
I've been rewatching this movie since it came out on BD and that was definitely the point of that scene. Alfred even chastises Bruce that all he accomplished was to lead the police "on a merry chase" rather than help them accomplish anything. Bruce bungled his return as a Batman and was blind to his complete screwup because he was just looking to go down in a blaze of glory.

The film does improve on repeat viewings but I still feel it's the lesser of the three (Batman Begins is still my favorite).
Old 12-15-12 | 05:46 PM
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I like how the pit prison had electricity for the TV so Bruce could watch Gotham burn.
Old 12-15-12 | 05:57 PM
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I like how the pit prison had electricity for the TV so Bruce could watch Gotham burn.
With ALL of Bane's resources, you really think that's any kind of stretch?

Come on.
Old 12-15-12 | 06:11 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by gryffinmaster
Indeed.

And it's not the first time he's been in a Christopher Nolan movie, either!

http://youtu.be/K9lOnmnj0IY?t=2m20s
A doctor both times... Was Memento set in Gothham City?
Old 12-15-12 | 06:14 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Nick Martin
The Dark Knight Trilogy: Full Circle

Great photo comparison of events, shots and traits across the films:

http://imgur.com/a/3EpQo
If you pay attention to the shots posted you'll notice there is not a single one that compares just The Dark Knight and Batman Begins. What makes the movies come "full circle" is Nolan saying fuck it, Ledger is dead. Let's just recycle everything from the first two movies.
Old 12-15-12 | 08:44 PM
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Yeah, Ledger being dead made all the fucking difference.

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Old 12-17-12 | 01:49 PM
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Nicely done:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IkMPZ7WeDck" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Old 12-17-12 | 02:01 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Nick Martin
The Dark Knight Trilogy: Full Circle

Great photo comparison of events, shots and traits across the films:

http://imgur.com/a/3EpQo
For the 2nd to last one "Gordon at a memorial for a fallen hero.", aren't both those shots from TDKR?
Old 12-17-12 | 04:11 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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For the 2nd to last one "Gordon at a memorial for a fallen hero.", aren't both those shots from TDKR?
The opening of Rises is a flashback to that Harvey Dent memorial from the previous film. They just recreated it since Gordon's lines were different. The image there is from The Dark Knight, not Rises.
Old 12-18-12 | 07:43 AM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

I finally got to watch the entire trilogy back to back to back this weekend. I've been a pretty big defender of DKR, but it shouldn't be viewed right after the first two because they amplify the weaknesses of the film. For the most part, the movie holds up fine, but there are a few parts that make me cringe a little more every time I see them:

1. Entire police force in sewers
2. Talia's death scene
3. Police rushing thugs with guns
4. The knee and cane bit was unnecessary and made the rest of the action hard to believe
5. The opening bit on the plane is contrived and overly complex, especially considering that they already have the scientist

This stuff shouldn't feel any dumber than the water vaporizer plot in Batman Begins, but it absolutely does feel dumber.

Still love the trilogy though.

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Old 12-19-12 | 11:01 AM
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Thinking about what would have made the whole "Death Wish" angle work, and I think instead of making Bruce a creepy shut-in, they should have had him engaging in all kinds of risky hobbies like car racing or MMA.

I'm thinking about the car racing scene in Dark Knight Returns where Bruce says "This would be a good death, but not good enough", where a lecture from Alfred would fit a little better. It also wouldn't have affected the believability of every fight scene after it.

Of course it was already done in Iron Man 2...

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Old 12-19-12 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chess
I finally got to watch the entire trilogy back to back to back this weekend. I've been a pretty big defender of DKR, but it shouldn't be viewed right after the first two because they amplify the weaknesses of the film. For the most part, the movie holds up fine, but there are a few parts that make me cringe a little more every time I see them:

1. Entire police force in sewers
2. Talia's death scene
3. Police rushing thugs with guns
4. The knee and cane bit was unnecessary and made the rest of the action hard to believe
5. The opening bit on the plane is contrived and overly complex, especially considering that they already have the scientist

This stuff shouldn't feel any dumber than the water vaporizer plot in Batman Begins, but it absolutely does feel dumber.

Still love the trilogy though.
I still want to know what happened after the Joker threw Rachel out the window and Batman jumps to save her in TDK. The scene just fades to the next day. What happened between then? Did the Joker just leave by helicopter on the roof, did he come down stairs and Batman called him a cab? I mean there is a vicious murderer up stairs with hostages still.
Old 12-19-12 | 11:13 AM
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I still want to know what happened after the Joker threw Rachel out the window and Batman jumps to save her in TDK. The scene just fades to the next day. What happened between then? Did the Joker just leave by helicopter on the roof, did he come down stairs and Batman called him a cab? I mean there is a vicious murderer up stairs with hostages still.
The Joker later stated (in the interrogation scene) that he thought Dent was Batman at that time, due to throwing himself after Rachel in such a manner. Since his objective was to get Harvey Dent, and in his mind, Dent was Batman, he had no further reason to be there (and his henchmen had been taken out).
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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I still want to know what happened after the Joker threw Rachel out the window and Batman jumps to save her in TDK. The scene just fades to the next day. What happened between then? Did the Joker just leave by helicopter on the roof, did he come down stairs and Batman called him a cab? I mean there is a vicious murderer up stairs with hostages still.
Originally Posted by bluetoast
The Joker later stated (in the interrogation scene) that he thought Dent was Batman at that time, due to throwing himself after Rachel in such a manner. Since his objective was to get Harvey Dent, and in his mind, Dent was Batman, he had no further reason to be there (and his henchmen had been taken out).
There is a deleted scene which this photo comes from:



Which follows Joker after Batman jumped out the window.
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There's something that's been bugging me since I saw the movie weeks ago. They call Batman Begins/The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises a "trilogy" and Nolan and Bale say they're done. Then what's with the last scene where
Spoiler:
we find out JGL's real first name is Robin? I mean that's a complete setup for another movie.


It just seems very weird to me to include that scene in a film that's supposed to "end it."
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The point is to show that anyone with enough conviction could in theory be Batman, and that the symbol is greater than the man under the mask.

It also does allow WB to make another movie in this universe if they want to, but I don't think they will.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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The point is to show that anyone with enough conviction could in theory be Batman, and that the symbol is greater than the man under the mask.

It also does allow WB to make another movie in this universe if they want to, but I don't think they will.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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The point is to show that anyone with enough conviction could in theory be Batman, and that the symbol is greater than the man under the mask.

It also does allow WB to make another movie in this universe if they want to, but I don't think they will.
You mean I could be Batman!?
Old 01-04-13 | 10:05 AM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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It also does allow WB to make another movie in this universe if they want to, but I don't think they will.
I believe Brett Ratner is available.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by GatorDeb
There's something that's been bugging me since I saw the movie weeks ago. They call Batman Begins/The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises a "trilogy" and Nolan and Bale say they're done. Then what's with the last scene where
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we find out JGL's real first name is Robin? I mean that's a complete setup for another movie.


It just seems very weird to me to include that scene in a film that's supposed to "end it."
Somehow, you seem to have missed the entire point of the film. That has to be some sort of accomplishment.


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