The hard part was carrying the flower up the mountain, not in finding it.

I don't think the Joker really cared if there was someone there or not. It was just one of his setups with the added possibility of a trick resulting in death. If it got someone killed he would have been particularly amused, but the main purpose it served was drawing the sniper's attention at the right time (thus the timer).

Not that you'd know this but seriously, knifeproof things don't have to be rigid plates. Even some bulletproof fabrics are like wetsuit material. Still hurts to get shot though.

Really?

Christopher Nolan had about 4 years and $250 million to dwell on them. Then again it's not like he had to, since a lot of it doesn't really matter.

I think you mean the government agent - and that's true, but that was Bane and it was a significantly different situation. It doesn't negate the possibility that Bane's lackeys who discover Blake letting the cops out may believe they need to gather information from him before killing him.

Quite frankly, I think the send-up to the old-style battlefield war charge was intentional. I think this criticism, while not unwarranted, is more a matter of taste than a true plot hole.

Yes but for Bruce to move the way he does..I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be like that.

Clearly the movie would have been better if 5-10 minutes of screen time had been devoted to Bruce wandering the mountainside with a puzzled look on his face.

It doesn't matter that nearly half the entire trilogy hinges upon the fact that nobody sent a janitor in to sweep up some broken glass?

Expecting audiences to accept absolute stupidity is even worse than throwing a deus ex machina at them.

That plot contrivance bothered me as well. Blake should have figured out who Batman was through detective work, which would show he had the mental chops to take on the mantle at the end of the film.

This is an odd thing to be hung up on. The station was in a panic trying to get to Dent and Rachael in time and nearly all the resources were devoted to that. No one was particularly concerned about some broken glass (that as I recall, wasn't actually shattered to shards at that point - I always assumed that it shattered further when they fought - but my memory may be hazy here). Do you really think no one ever misses something in the midst of rushed panic? Really??

Edited to add: Also, the entire trilogy didn't hinge on that plot point. The Joker's plan hinged on the phone-bomb in the thug's stomach being detonated by a phone call. The Joker managed to be able to make the call, but given his elaborate plans, he surely had a fallback if he wasn't able to make the call himself. Either way, the explosion frees him.

I think you tend to notice things like that when you're housing a high-risk prisoner/detainee. The room was clearly compromised so I can't think of any good reason why he was even kept in that room. Surely a major metropolitan police department would have an extra room that wasn't littered with knife-sized shards of broken glass.

And is it police protocol to lock an out-of-shaped middle-age cop with a temper IN THE CELL unsupervised with an extremely dangerous prisoner?

As I said, the whole thing is just too improbable to accept.

Yeah, but that pesky Inception got in the way.

Oh that thing. Yeah I guess he spent some time on it.

We can argue back and forth about it, but what it comes down to is that your suspension of disbelief doesn't have room for that scenario and that's fine. I don't find it particularly problematic given the extreme circumstances. Sometimes protocol doesn't get followed or goes out the window completely. Feel free to continue allowing that scene to destroy your enjoyment of the trilogy.

He's just not a Nolan fan in general but insists on torturing himself by watching Nolan's filmography.


I don't get it.

At this point he's trolling.

Just think of how much better this would have been if he didn't bother with Inception. Win/win, I think.

Yeah. So Bruce is all about justice, as long as it's in the U.S. In foreign lands, he actually releases prisoners, some of whom I'm sure were murderers, rapists, or child molesters.

I was under the impression that they were former prisoners of the former Warlord and are now Bane's prisoners?

Didn't the movie give the impression that it was Bane's prison now? Presumably most of the others in the prison were Bane's prisoners, not men who had been sentenced there by the local justice system...

God, this thread is just worthless bitching now. It's completely deteriorated.

Maybe for Nolan-haters like you and Guru. Some of us enjoy his movies.

I don't know why you two in particular watch these movies at all. I certainly don't subject myself to Star Wars if I don't have to.

I love Nolan. Memento is amazing. The Prestige is spectacular. Batman Begins is pretty much how I would have made a Batman origin film myself. The Dark Knight is exceptional. Following and Insomnia are decent enough. But Inception was half-baked and highly overrated. While I do like Rises, it's definitely got more than a few flaws.

Some of us can like a filmmaker and not swoon at every single frame of film they ever shoot.

This. I loved Rises but it's flawed. Thought I'll assure secure where it doesn't as well.

Christ. I can honestly say I have no idea what this sentence means.