Why So Blu?

Yep.

Guru Askew

Both of those lines are LITERALLY cliches.

devilshalo

I still think it would be weird for Gotham to have a Batman back after memorializing him with a statue, after his supposed 'death' that a lot of Gothamites witnessed.

stingermck

Thats why he'll be Robin/Nightwing instead!

bluetoast

So is using the word "literally" in such a manner.

Guru Askew

No it's not, because I'm not saying "those lines are so unoriginal."

If there's a big book of cliched sayings both of those would LITERALLY be contained therein. They are actual clichés.

Also my iPhone just decided to do that accent in that last instance and I'm gonna go with it.

Why So Blu?

Yeah, okay.

devilshalo

That's why I was hoping his real name was going to be Jean-Paul.

Why So Blu?

He can't be "Robin," because that's his REAL name. He'll become Batman.

Guru Askew

So "speak of the devil and he'll appear" isn't a saying people have been using for decades, if not centuries? The Nolan brothers thought it up?

Yeah, okay.

Save Ferris

I don't understand 'the pit'

stingermck

Ooops, I forgot to add a sarcasm tag.

Why So Blu?

In that context? So you're saying that in DK every single line the Joker spewed was original? You're confusing original with memorable. I made reference to the latter, but you're choosing to nitpick it in a different matter.

Why So Blu?

Right. Hope was always there, but they were never able to leverage their ideas for escape. That and most were old and decrepit. Maybe these other guys in the pit will take a note from Bruce's playbook and make the jump? Of course, if they don't use the rope and they fall, then they're fucked.

bluetoast

Well Bruce gave them the rope to escape, so they should all be able to get out. The huge muscular dude who kept giving Bruce the rope should have been able to try before that though.

Why So Blu?

Likes I said, climbing is one thing, but if they don't make the jump, they're toast. That's a pretty big jump.

Guru Askew

Give 'em enough rope...

(writing is easy)

bluetoast

Wait but I thought the rope outside was attached to something, such that they could all escape if one of them were to get out. It was a separate rope outside the pit.

Why So Blu?

It sure is. Go ahead and write the sequel.

(hating is easier)

Solid Snake

Yeah, everything he said in that scene was awesome. I love Batman's yelling and struggling. Bane looking badass climbing down the chain (I'm assuming that was Buster). Bane's grunts and etc. And no music. Just great stuff.

To you. I've never seen her. I knew it was a girl though cuz of this place though.

Fuck that. The guy who failed being the Bat? That'd get so much hatred from fans.

I dunno..he was a big dude. I'd fail doing that jump and I'm pretty athletic and probably about 50-70lbs lighter than that guy.

kefrank

I'm fairly certain that the Nolan brothers thought it through. If their past movies are any indication, they think things through too much and make things unnecessarily intricate at times - and then they simultaneously give the audience too much credit and not enough. What I mean by that is that everything is explainable if you pay attention to the right details, but some of those details are so minute in the midst of the woven complexity that almost everyone is bound to miss something. And then they feel the need to overexplain some things with clunky explanatory dialog, but they can't do that with everything.

This would be the case if the movie was more clear on Bruce's injuries, but it doesn't offer that. He gets pummeled pretty badly by Bane and clearly suffers some sort of debilitating back injury, but not much else is made clear. I'm not saying that section of the movie didn't require some suspension of disbelief, but in Nolan's universe, the "realistic" damage that could be done by Bane dropping an armored Batman on his knee seems fairly commensurate with a few months of rehab. While that part of the movie was obviously a nod to Knightfall, we have to be careful not to apply details from the comic that aren't actually expressed in the movie.

Others have already addressed this stuff by now, so I don't really have anything to add to their replies.

I think you're again making a lot of assumptions and inferences. The repaired bat signal was letting Gordon know that Bruce survived - not necessarily that he should start using it immediately. We don't really know exactly what training Blake has had up to this point. Recall that he grew up in the rough boy's home and at a minimum, has had police training for hand-to-hand combat. He certainly seemed to be able to hold his own when given the chance in the movie. He hasn't necessarily had the extensive martial arts and League of Shadows training that Bruce has had, but he's not starting from zero like the privileged heir to the Wayne fortune was. I agree that there are open questions about how he can really become Batman, but as I said in a previous post, getting too caught up in assumed answers to those questions is over-thinking it and missing the point.

Double_Oh_7

Marion Cottilard is stunning in this movie. I had never seen her in anything before.

Why So Blu?

Check her out in:

Inception
Contagion
Public Enemies
La Vie En Rose

Guru Askew

Well that just went right over your head.

Save Ferris

I remember thinking this but I had to google it. The mouth of the pit is so ridiculously close--If he had an extra rope with a bent hook he could have climbed out instead of jump. Ugh.