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Old 02-27-12 | 12:26 PM
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Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Yes, the action scenes really suck. They are erratic and make little logical sense. But does anyone else love the fact that this is James Bond in full-on psycho-revenge mode? The only thing he's doing is trying to hit the organization responsible for the death of Vesper. He wants to kill people.
Old 02-27-12 | 01:12 PM
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I don't hate it. The action scenes did suck. I thought the opera sequence was superb. Overall I enjoyed it, and enough to make me rewatch it last year.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Mostly because the writer's strike happened during filming of 'Solace', and the writers walked off the set during a major rewrite.

This left Craig and the director to try and rewrite the script on their own, and the film suffered suffered significantly because of this.

I'll take it over any non-Craig Bond film, but the quality of the film suffered significantly due to the writer's strike.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Besides the aforementioned action scenes that were a mess, it had a really boring villain.
Old 02-27-12 | 01:35 PM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I wouldn't say I hated it. It was just completely forgettable and a poor follow up to Casino Royale.
Old 02-27-12 | 01:43 PM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Nonsensical story. Glum tone. Shaky-cam action sequences. It was just a missed opportunity all around. It's far from "the worse" James Bond movie ever (thanks Internet!), but coming off of Casino Royale it was markedly disappointing. I'd rank it somewhere in the middle of the pack.

At least there was no slide-whistle car stunt...
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
the quality of the film suffered significantly due to the writer's strike.
They probably should have had a decent script before they started shooting. Has any movie written on the fly turned out well?

Anyway, here's the original 11-page review thread about the movie.

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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I don't hate it and Im enjoying this movie but not one of my favorite one. car chasing scene in beginning is hilarious.
Old 02-27-12 | 02:36 PM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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coming off of Casino Royale it was markedly disappointing.
This pretty much sums it up. I don't think people hated it.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I liked it, but the poor action and uninteresting plot made it weaker. Back to back with Casino its not too bad.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Well directors and actors are not the best people to rewrite a screenplay.

Craig said, when he rather recently admitted to the writing thing for the first time, they expected it to exceed 'Casino Royale', that they had some great ideas they were working on, but they could not recover the screenplay after the strike and the writers were forced to walk off the film.

They did the best they could, but both knew it didn't work.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I liked it, but the poor action and uninteresting plot made it weaker. Back to back with Casino its not too bad.
That's how I do it whenever I watch it as well. The action is okay IMO, and yes, it is not as good as Casino Royale. However, I dislike it when people say it lacks the character development of Royale. I always took it that Royale was the character development for this movie and QoS is basically the second half of the story they started with Royale.
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The story is dull and pointless, it's not really a "James Bond"-esque movie or storyline, the action sequences are terrible, the villain is a total twat, and the final "battle" between a gimp and Bond should have been over in 5 seconds. What a stupid fucking movie.
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The action is wholly incoherent. The plot is threadbare. The villain is forgettable. I did like M being shaken up by her assistant being a mole, and Kurylenko gave a good performance. More than anything, it feels like a complete footnote to Casino Royale, and since it sounds like the Quantum organization won't be featured in Skyfall, kind of a waste.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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The action is wholly incoherent. The plot is threadbare. The villain is forgettable. I did like M being shaken up by her assistant being a mole, and Kurylenko gave a good performance. More than anything, it feels like a complete footnote to Casino Royale, and since it sounds like the Quantum organization won't be featured in Skyfall, kind of a waste.
this pretty much. Love the Opera sequence though. Well constructed.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I wouldn't say I hated it. It was just completely forgettable and a poor follow up to Casino Royale.
Yep. I remember watching it and thinking it was a decent Bourne-style action movie. But now, I couldn't tell you a single thing that happened in it, or who was even in it, other than the obvious. Completely, and literally, forgettable.
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This pretty much sums it up. I don't think people hated it.

No, some people were flat-out offended by it. The hate for QoS upon its release was often funny to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_BfEoFFNqo
Old 02-27-12 | 08:30 PM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Don't see where they hated the film. Main guy said it was all over the place. The other guy said he was disappointed and confused.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I guess I'm crazy, but I thought it was a great sequel to CR. Honestly, the two sort of go as one long origin story to me. In CS, he's becomes the playboy-Bond we all love, but makes the mistake of falling in love (and pays for it). In QoS, he suffers for his mistake, makes the bad guys pay, and we see why he's becomes so detached from women from then on. The Bond I grew up with is a perfect byproduct of this origin story, in my eyes.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I liked QoS as well for the same reasons valkyrie mentioned. It works as a great epilogue of sorts to CR.
Old 02-28-12 | 12:32 AM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

It doesn't have Sean Connery in it.
Old 02-28-12 | 02:46 AM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

The plot is dull and boring. That said, I still enjoy it because I just find Craig incredibly watchable as Bond.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Originally Posted by valkyrie
I guess I'm crazy, but I thought it was a great sequel to CR. Honestly, the two sort of go as one long origin story to me. In CS, he's becomes the playboy-Bond we all love, but makes the mistake of falling in love (and pays for it). In QoS, he suffers for his mistake, makes the bad guys pay, and we see why he's becomes so detached from women from then on. The Bond I grew up with is a perfect byproduct of this origin story, in my eyes.
This is basically how I view it. I like QoS quite a bit when taken as a whole with Casino Royale.
Old 02-28-12 | 11:11 AM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I thought it had one of the most thrilling opening scenes of any Bond film, but I agree the plot was incomprehensible at times and the action started to feel stale. I think it works better when watched back-to-back with CR.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Olga Kurylenko makes up for almost everything bad about the movie


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