The 84th Academy Awards --> 2012 Awards Show Discussion
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Ok, great. The Iron Lady won more Oscars than any movie last night besides the two first-place winners (or the first and second place winners, or the gold and silver medal winners, or the blue ribbon and the red ribbon finalists, or whatever else you want to call it semantically). I'm not sure why this is even a debate, really.
I know a lot of people who work in various areas of the film industry, and they all work their asses off. They should get their chance to shine, too. A ton of awards are already relegated to the non-televised technical awards. Seems silly to reduce the Oscars to even less televised categories, or cut speeches for people who do win. Cut the interstitial stuff instead.
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Yeah he's gotta be like 5'5'' or something. She was wearing heels but I don't think she's that tall to begin with.
Also is it just me or does Rooney Mara seem like a flash in the pan? Just a random hunch on my part but I dunno, she doesn't seem like she has "it". Her performance in The Social Network reminded me of a low rent Natalie Portman.
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And at least this year wasn't as bad as that terrible year when they had all the nominees stand on stage, then the winner came forward after the announcement. Or when they had to accept the award FROM THE FUCKING AISLE. What a disaster.
Also is it just me or does Rooney Mara seem like a flash in the pan? Just a random hunch on my part but I dunno, she doesn't seem like she has "it". Her performance in The Social Network reminded me of a low rent Natalie Portman.
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And at least this year wasn't as bad as that terrible year when they had all the nominees stand on stage, then the winner came forward after the announcement. Or when they had to accept the award FROM THE FUCKING AISLE. What a disaster.
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I hate spoilers, to the point that I try to know as little about a movie going in as possible, other than I want to see it. With every clip or still they showed of Hugo, I was getting more and more annoyed, but I knew it was my fault for not getting out to see it. The problem with the Oscars is that you have two basic audiences: People who have seen the film and will get a certain emotional reaction from a clip, and people who have not seen the film and may be interested by the clip. (And yes, there are many other groups such as those who have no plans to see it etc. but I'm ignoring them for now.) My preference would be that they always err on the side of caution and not spoil a climactic moment. I did see The Artist but offhand I couldn't recall exactly when the scene under discussion here happened, so I'm glad to hear it wasn't that critical.
I'm OK with the current length, though I do think some stuff like the shorts could be cut. I do like how the costumes and effects type awards will surface some films different from what we tend to see over and over during the rest of the show. And yes, I remember the days of random compilations like "Oscar pays tribute to vodka shooters in the movies!" Don't need to go back to those, though they did involve occasional cleverness and entertainment value.
I'm OK with the current length, though I do think some stuff like the shorts could be cut. I do like how the costumes and effects type awards will surface some films different from what we tend to see over and over during the rest of the show. And yes, I remember the days of random compilations like "Oscar pays tribute to vodka shooters in the movies!" Don't need to go back to those, though they did involve occasional cleverness and entertainment value.
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Billy was so horrible as usual and everyone just accepted it and awkwardly applauded. The monologue was bad. All his ad-libs were awful. He should seriously watch Seth Rogen from the Film Independent Spirit Awards. Now, that was a funny monologue. Granted, he wasn't held back by network censorship but still overall a much funnier opening.
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And I thought she looked awesome at the Oscars:
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It's just you. I love Rooney Mara. (I do not love Natalie Portman.) Strictly on the basis of her appearance in SOCIAL NETWORK and her starring role in DRAGON TATTOO, she's displaced Megan Fox as my new favorite contemporary actress. I don't know of anyone among her peers who could have pulled off Lisbeth Salander so expertly.
And I thought she looked awesome at the Oscars:
And I thought she looked awesome at the Oscars:
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While I certainly don't love Megan Fox as an actress the way Ash Ketchum does, I agree wholeheartedly about Rooney Mara. She's got chops, and she should have won for Dragon Tattoo.
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I had to laugh when Firth was standing up there gushing about Mara. Must be hard to come up with something so eloquently worded for a chick who, aside from Dragon Tattoo, had an unmemorable bit part in Social Network and starred in a horrendously shitty remake.
I watched the whole show with my parents. It was definitely better than last years. I don't know why people bitch about the Oscars so much. Have any of you seen the show before? It's all pomp & circumstance, and overpaid celebrities giving each other handjobs. This isn't ever going to be anything more than it is now. I tune in because I love movies and it seems relevant to my interests. I never go in expecting it to be a spectacular show. I watch because I love laughing at Hollywood while they give out little statues.
And The Artist is a great film, and I'm completely happy with it winning what it did.
I watched the whole show with my parents. It was definitely better than last years. I don't know why people bitch about the Oscars so much. Have any of you seen the show before? It's all pomp & circumstance, and overpaid celebrities giving each other handjobs. This isn't ever going to be anything more than it is now. I tune in because I love movies and it seems relevant to my interests. I never go in expecting it to be a spectacular show. I watch because I love laughing at Hollywood while they give out little statues.
And The Artist is a great film, and I'm completely happy with it winning what it did.
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Besides, by the standard in your first sentence, Best Picture should be dumped since pretty much no one saw The Artist.
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Yeah I saw all the live action and animated shorts. It's a fun time, although none of the animated ones did much for me this year.
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I don't watch every year. Was this something new? It was totally cringe-worthy. I actually couldn't watch the screen. I had to look away everytime she called out their first name. Are we suppose to believe that Natalie Portman is familiar with not only all five performances, but their careers in general? And can you really gush over Rooney Mara--for her chick-filling role in The Social Network or her performance in an unneeded American remake of a film?
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Au contraire, Monsieur Cannibal, her scenes were the most memorable parts of SOCIAL NETWORK for me. (She and Justin Timberlake kept that film from being a total waste for me.) And DRAGON TATTOO was one of my three favorite films from last year. I saw it right after reading the book and was impressed with the faithful quality of its adaptation and the way Ms. Mara totally nailed that character. (I still haven't seen the Swedish movie.)
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Au contraire, Monsieur Cannibal, her scenes were the most memorable parts of SOCIAL NETWORK for me. (She and Justin Timberlake kept that film from being a total waste for me.) And DRAGON TATTOO was one of my three favorite films from last year. I saw it right after reading the book and was impressed with the faithful quality of its adaptation and the way Ms. Mara totally nailed that character. (I still haven't seen the Swedish movie.)
As someone who hasn't seen Fincher's Dragon Tattoo (I know, I know), I can't yet say how well she handles a film that isn't a pre-destined piece of crap.
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Glad "The Artist" won Oscar for best picture. If anything to show people that you don't need 3D, color or even talking to make a great film. Its the little subtleties in movement and expression that connect us not the flashiness. I only wish more people would look at silent films of the past, hell I wish I had seen more silent films.
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Re: Rooney, I'm very anxious to follow her career. Not only because I think she's stunning, but she was terrific in "TGWTDT"
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The sad thing about Hollywood is Jean Dujardin may be an incredibly actor but Hollywood won't knw how to use him so my guess is he becomes a villian in an upcoming Bond film or a quirky Frenchman in a romantic comedy rather than a role with more depth.
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The young actress I really think is special is Saoirse Ronan. Although she might not be in the same "crop" since Mara is 9 years older.
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Personally, I thought she was outstanding in Dragon Tattoo. It's a complex part that isn't necessarily easy to play, especially for such a relatively inexperienced actress, and she completely owned it. Some of those scenes just cannot be pulled off believably without some serious acting chops.
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Enjoyed the AA Show very much.
-Great to have Billy back, his opening was great.
-Circus guys were FANTASTIC!
-Disappointed "The Help" did not win best picture, buy oh well.
My wife and I did win the Oscar Pool with 16 correct, we had one or two picks were completely dumb. But, over all we nailed it, and we really nailed the "Smaller" categories.
-We only won a little Oscar statue.
-Great to have Billy back, his opening was great.
-Circus guys were FANTASTIC!
-Disappointed "The Help" did not win best picture, buy oh well.
My wife and I did win the Oscar Pool with 16 correct, we had one or two picks were completely dumb. But, over all we nailed it, and we really nailed the "Smaller" categories.
-We only won a little Oscar statue.
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Having never actually seen him on screen before, why did I think that Alexander Payne was a black guy?