Jurassic World (2015, Trevorrow) S: Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard
08-30-04, 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
well, it has been a while since I read the book but I don't remember them actually being invisible. Crichton usually stays in the realm of science. If I remember correctly they had chameleon DNA spliced with them instead of frog. So they could blend into the environment. Not all that unreasonable to me. If you think about it the whole idea of cloning dinos is kinda absurd to begin with, but you suspend disbelief and roll with it.
well, it has been a while since I read the book but I don't remember them actually being invisible. Crichton usually stays in the realm of science. If I remember correctly they had chameleon DNA spliced with them instead of frog. So they could blend into the environment. Not all that unreasonable to me. If you think about it the whole idea of cloning dinos is kinda absurd to begin with, but you suspend disbelief and roll with it.
Yeah, I suppose that if we are going to suspend disbelief for cloned dinosaurs then you could make the argument for light bending dinos and then even make the leap to the alleged JP4 script . . . but my argument is more akin to the age old Star Wars/Star Trek debate . . . there is a believable line that seperates science fiction from science fact, and invisible dinos crossed that line for me. At that point you may as well have taught them to speak English and given them a strong desire to listen to the timeless recordings of Ella Fitzgerald while surpressing a craving for Twinkies and exercising their proclevity for hacking websites.
08-30-04, 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by Abob Teff
It has been awhile since I read it as well, but I am pretty sure that the premise is actually that it was an evolutionary change (not one that was created). I do recall thought that the disnosaurs didn't just "blend in" in like a chameleon, Crichton specifically says that they bend the light waves around them (like in Predator).
Yeah, I suppose that if we are going to suspend disbelief for cloned dinosaurs then you could make the argument for light bending dinos and then even make the leap to the alleged JP4 script . . . but my argument is more akin to the age old Star Wars/Star Trek debate . . . there is a believable line that seperates science fiction from science fact, and invisible dinos crossed that line for me. At that point you may as well have taught them to speak English and given them a strong desire to listen to the timeless recordings of Ella Fitzgerald while surpressing a craving for Twinkies and exercising their proclevity for hacking websites.
It has been awhile since I read it as well, but I am pretty sure that the premise is actually that it was an evolutionary change (not one that was created). I do recall thought that the disnosaurs didn't just "blend in" in like a chameleon, Crichton specifically says that they bend the light waves around them (like in Predator).
Yeah, I suppose that if we are going to suspend disbelief for cloned dinosaurs then you could make the argument for light bending dinos and then even make the leap to the alleged JP4 script . . . but my argument is more akin to the age old Star Wars/Star Trek debate . . . there is a believable line that seperates science fiction from science fact, and invisible dinos crossed that line for me. At that point you may as well have taught them to speak English and given them a strong desire to listen to the timeless recordings of Ella Fitzgerald while surpressing a craving for Twinkies and exercising their proclevity for hacking websites.
There's no way an animal is going to be able to evolve such an ability... an ability that has never even come close to appearing in any other animal after millions of years of evolution... in such a short span of time. It just destroys any scientific credibility...
I'm glad I never read that book if that is indeed a part of it.
08-31-04, 01:39 AM
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I don't remember any "Predator" Dinosaurs....and i would remember dinosaurs bending light because that would be friggin cool!.
Perhaps a character was mentioning that it seemed like they bent light when they were just really blending in. None of his other books really had anything else in them that would be so sci-fi fantastic so why would he put something over the top in just the one book?
Although Crichton owes me an explanation as to the origins of the spaceship in "Sphere".
Perhaps a character was mentioning that it seemed like they bent light when they were just really blending in. None of his other books really had anything else in them that would be so sci-fi fantastic so why would he put something over the top in just the one book?
Although Crichton owes me an explanation as to the origins of the spaceship in "Sphere".
08-31-04, 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by UAIOE
Although Crichton owes me an explanation as to the origins of the spaceship in "Sphere".
Although Crichton owes me an explanation as to the origins of the spaceship in "Sphere".
08-31-04, 12:19 PM
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Thinking one thing and typing another 
What i had intended to say was he owes me an explanation as to what the hell happened to the crew of the ship.
I've not seen the movie (they might have explained it there) but in the book all that is ever said about the crew is just speculation as to what happened to them.
What i had intended to say was he owes me an explanation as to what the hell happened to the crew of the ship.
I've not seen the movie (they might have explained it there) but in the book all that is ever said about the crew is just speculation as to what happened to them.
08-31-04, 03:52 PM
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I must say though with this premise it has nothing to do with "Jurassic Park." It's namesake refers to the theme park in the movie. The first three films at least stayed within those realms.
09-02-04, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by UAIOE
I don't remember any "Predator" Dinosaurs....and i would remember dinosaurs bending light because that would be friggin cool!.
Perhaps a character was mentioning that it seemed like they bent light when they were just really blending in. None of his other books really had anything else in them that would be so sci-fi fantastic so why would he put something over the top in just the one book?
Although Crichton owes me an explanation as to the origins of the spaceship in "Sphere".
I don't remember any "Predator" Dinosaurs....and i would remember dinosaurs bending light because that would be friggin cool!.
Perhaps a character was mentioning that it seemed like they bent light when they were just really blending in. None of his other books really had anything else in them that would be so sci-fi fantastic so why would he put something over the top in just the one book?
Although Crichton owes me an explanation as to the origins of the spaceship in "Sphere".
"Thorne stared forward, straining. And as he looked he bagan to think that it wasn't the bushes taht had caught his eye, but rather the chainlink fence. For mostof its length, the fence was overgrown with an irregular tangle of vines, but in a few places the regular diamond pattern of links was visible. And there was something strange about that pattern. The fence seemed to be moving, rippling . . . Their concealment had been perfect -- too perfect -- . . . such complex patterning implied that their epidermal layers were arranged in a manner similar to the chromatophores of marine invertebrates . . . You could see they had a refractory period for skin response . . . "
So I guess they weren't bending light per se, but they were quite a bit more than chameleons!
Or, to take another line out of the book "It wasn't science by any stretch --."
09-03-04, 02:24 AM
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An Octopus can change its color in an instant and bled in quite well with its underwater surroundings. Had someone simply described the octopus doing that i'd say they were smoking some serious crack...but seeing it happen on Discovery will make you a believer.
Granted, it's an Octopus and not a Raptor...but the idea that some scientist fudging with DNA would give a Raptor that ability isnt that unbelievable either.
InGen did clone dinosaurs "because they could" so giving a dinosaur a chameleon-like ability doesnt suprise me given thier previous screw-ups.
Then again, this is just fiction
Granted, it's an Octopus and not a Raptor...but the idea that some scientist fudging with DNA would give a Raptor that ability isnt that unbelievable either.
InGen did clone dinosaurs "because they could" so giving a dinosaur a chameleon-like ability doesnt suprise me given thier previous screw-ups.
Then again, this is just fiction
09-05-04, 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by UAIOE
An Octopus can change its color in an instant and bled in quite well with its underwater surroundings. Had someone simply described the octopus doing that i'd say they were smoking some serious crack...but seeing it happen on Discovery will make you a believer.
Granted, it's an Octopus and not a Raptor...but the idea that some scientist fudging with DNA would give a Raptor that ability isnt that unbelievable either.
InGen did clone dinosaurs "because they could" so giving a dinosaur a chameleon-like ability doesnt suprise me given thier previous screw-ups.
Then again, this is just fiction
An Octopus can change its color in an instant and bled in quite well with its underwater surroundings. Had someone simply described the octopus doing that i'd say they were smoking some serious crack...but seeing it happen on Discovery will make you a believer.
Granted, it's an Octopus and not a Raptor...but the idea that some scientist fudging with DNA would give a Raptor that ability isnt that unbelievable either.
InGen did clone dinosaurs "because they could" so giving a dinosaur a chameleon-like ability doesnt suprise me given thier previous screw-ups.
Then again, this is just fiction
09-06-04, 03:41 AM
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It's been 9 years since i read the book. All i remember is the RV on the cliff, the "High Hide", there being two kids, and Dodgeson.
I agree about the movie...other than the RV on the cliff part the movie was overly weak compared to the book.
The only aspect i liked about the sequal movies were the parts where they showed (if only briefly) how the events of the first movie affected the characters lives in the sequals.
I agree about the movie...other than the RV on the cliff part the movie was overly weak compared to the book.
The only aspect i liked about the sequal movies were the parts where they showed (if only briefly) how the events of the first movie affected the characters lives in the sequals.
07-23-11, 06:46 AM
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Jurassic World (2015, Trevorrow) S: Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard
Did a search but, surprisingly, didn't find a thread.
"Jurassic Park 4" in 2013 or 2014 confirmed by Spielberg at Comic Con
(CBS/What's Trending) - The news coming out of Comic Con just gets more and more exciting. Steven Spielberg made his first appearance at Comic Con on Friday, and Variety is reporting that he announced that there will in fact be a "Jurassic Park 4." News that it'd be ready "in the next two of three years" set Twitter on fire with excited responses.
Spielberg was on the panel for DreamWorks' "Adventures of Tin Tin," and overshadowed the promotion of that film with the announcement of the bringing the franchise back to life. The Hollywood Reporter reported back in June that Spielberg was in talks with screenwriter Mark Prostosevich to get the film going. Now, with Spielberg confirming that the film already has a story, Twitter is more than excited. We could even see the next film in the billion dollar series as soon as 2013 or 2014.
Despite the excitement on the Internet, is the fourth film a good idea? The first, which has been hailed by critics and fans alike as a classic, grossed $915 million. The second did a respectable $619 million. Both of those films were directed by Speilberg, while the third was only executive produced by the Oscar-winning director, and managed a measely $369 million. With such a significant drop in revenue between films -- and more than a decade since the last films release -- is a reboot really a good idea?
Also found this additional bit of news at the bottom of this story:
'Jurassic Park 4': Steven Spielberg Estimates '2-3 Years' For Film At Comic-Con
He didn't give any plot details away, but Joe Johnston, the "Captain America" director who worked on the first three, spilled a few beans last week.
"We are in discussions about 'Jurassic Park 4,'" he told ScreenRant (amongst other things). "The most important thing I can tell you is that it starts a new trilogy that will go off in a different direction -- a completely different direction that is very exciting."
"Jurassic Park 4" in 2013 or 2014 confirmed by Spielberg at Comic Con
(CBS/What's Trending) - The news coming out of Comic Con just gets more and more exciting. Steven Spielberg made his first appearance at Comic Con on Friday, and Variety is reporting that he announced that there will in fact be a "Jurassic Park 4." News that it'd be ready "in the next two of three years" set Twitter on fire with excited responses.
Spielberg was on the panel for DreamWorks' "Adventures of Tin Tin," and overshadowed the promotion of that film with the announcement of the bringing the franchise back to life. The Hollywood Reporter reported back in June that Spielberg was in talks with screenwriter Mark Prostosevich to get the film going. Now, with Spielberg confirming that the film already has a story, Twitter is more than excited. We could even see the next film in the billion dollar series as soon as 2013 or 2014.
Despite the excitement on the Internet, is the fourth film a good idea? The first, which has been hailed by critics and fans alike as a classic, grossed $915 million. The second did a respectable $619 million. Both of those films were directed by Speilberg, while the third was only executive produced by the Oscar-winning director, and managed a measely $369 million. With such a significant drop in revenue between films -- and more than a decade since the last films release -- is a reboot really a good idea?
Also found this additional bit of news at the bottom of this story:
'Jurassic Park 4': Steven Spielberg Estimates '2-3 Years' For Film At Comic-Con
He didn't give any plot details away, but Joe Johnston, the "Captain America" director who worked on the first three, spilled a few beans last week.
"We are in discussions about 'Jurassic Park 4,'" he told ScreenRant (amongst other things). "The most important thing I can tell you is that it starts a new trilogy that will go off in a different direction -- a completely different direction that is very exciting."
07-23-11, 08:59 AM
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I wonder what this, "Completely new direction," is.
I'm all for a Jurassic Park 4. If it really is a Jurassic Park 4 then I would guess that they'll keep the continuity while moving in that, "Completely new direction."
Either way, I'm in.
I'm all for a Jurassic Park 4. If it really is a Jurassic Park 4 then I would guess that they'll keep the continuity while moving in that, "Completely new direction."
Either way, I'm in.
07-23-11, 09:28 AM
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re: Jurassic World (2015, Trevorrow)
Jurassic Park 3 was pretty lame. First is a classic and I actually like the second one. Never understood all the hate for it.
Can't imagine what the new direction is. I just pray it's not the super smart military dinosaurs I've heard rumblings about.
Can't imagine what the new direction is. I just pray it's not the super smart military dinosaurs I've heard rumblings about.
