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Old 10-09-09, 11:11 AM
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Texas Chainsaw Massacre gets a reboot... again

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Having sucked all the life and respect out of "Saw" with its increasingly dismal sequels, Twisted Pictures and Lionsgate are now giving the same treatment to Leatherface.

Variety reports that the production company and the distributor are closing a deal to take over the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" franchise which first began back in 1974.

The plan is to produce a contemporary-set 3D feature film take on the classic horror franchise using a script written by Stephen Susco ("The Grudge"). The deal also encompasses multiple films.

New Line and Platinum Dunes previously teamed on the 2003 remake and its poorly received but still financially viable prequel follow-up, both of which will likely be ignored by this second attempt at a 'reboot'.

Carl Mazzocone, Mark Burg and Oren Koules will produce.

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Another fucking 3D horror film? This is getting ridiculous. And didn't they learn from the last two Chainsaw films that this series needs to be left alone? I hold little hope when the script is from the guy who brought us The Grudge... although I will admit that I'd like to see how someone other than Platinum Dunes handles this.
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Old 10-09-09, 11:17 AM
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I actually enjoy the 2003 remake and it's prequel; however, this news is fucking ridiculous.

If you want to make a 3D horror film, that's fine; but to remake a film that's just been remade in the past six years? Have we run out of ideas to the point the only way we can keep making movies is to remake remakes?

If New Line just green lighted Final Destination 5, I might be excited because those films never had much class or dignity to begin with. I'm not excited about this as I still think the original is one of the greatest horror films ever made and I can't believe they're remaking it again.
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I had no idea there was a 2006 prequel. I must have blocked it out of my memory.
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... I might be excited because those films never had much class or dignity to begin with.
Granted, I have a low opinion of the "gore for gore's sake" horror genre in general, and I am not trying to crap on this thread (which is, in and of itself, crapping on the announced re-reboot) ... but I think that "class and dignity" are the aboslute last words I would use in conjunction with Texas Chainsaw Massacre (or any gore film).

Even though I don't care for TCM, I have watched it a couple of times (didn't care for it originally, thought I'd give it another shot). I even saw the reboot. I'll respect the original for the boundaries that it pushed and the achievement at the time ... but "class and dignity?" Wow.
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I had no idea there was a 2006 prequel. I must have blocked it out of my memory.
The Beginning or something like that.
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Old 10-09-09, 12:11 PM
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So the attention span of unimaginative studio execs is becoming even shorter. I expect a reboot of Zombieland any day now.
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I like every entry to an extent. I wish they'd get back to the weirdness of 1,2 and 4.
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but I think that "class and dignity" are the aboslute last words I would use in conjunction with Texas Chainsaw Massacre (or any gore film).
Have you seen the original film? All of the deaths are off screen or obstructed from the camera's view. The sequels and remake / prequel decided to up the ante in violence and gore, but the original is a horror masterpiece and is extremely well done.
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Re: Texas Chainsaw Massacre gets a reboot... again

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Have you seen the original film? All of the deaths are off screen or obstructed from the camera's view. The sequels and remake / prequel decided to up the ante in violence and gore, but the original is a horror masterpiece and is extremely well done.
QFT.

Ask a random sampling of filmgoers who have seen the film, and they'll swear it was the most brutal, bloody movie they've ever seen. The film is so intense and, well... fucked up that most people remember far more gore than there ever was; the film is a relatively bloodless affair. But I don't ever see any filmmaker today getting the series back to that place. It was a product of the times and will likely never be replicated again.
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this is getting out of control.
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QFT.

Ask a random sampling of filmgoers who have seen the film, and they'll swear it was the most brutal, bloody movie they've ever seen. The film is so intense and, well... fucked up that most people remember far more gore than there ever was; the film is a relatively bloodless affair. But I don't ever see any filmmaker today getting the series back to that place. It was a product of the times and will likely never be replicated again.
I remember watching the film when I was ten and having the utter shit scared out of me. One of the major scenes I remember is when the wheelchair bounded friend is murdered. As brutal and impacting the scene is, the camera is looking over the shoulder of the hero. We see Leatherface take the chainsaw to him, but as the audience, we can't see anything as the victim's back is towards us. There's not a single drop of blood in this scene, but with how the scene is set-up and shot, our imagination takes control and screws with us harder.

I will argue that Paranormal Activity is done in a similar way where the horror takes place off screen letting our imagination put the pieces in as the film is going along.
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I'm going to reboot this thread.
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I'm going to reboot this thread.
already? It was just rebooted a few minutes ago.
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I like every entry to an extent. I wish they'd get back to the weirdness of 1,2 and 4.

You liked Kim Henkel's TCM: The Next Generation?
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Have you seen the original film? All of the deaths are off screen or obstructed from the camera's view. The sequels and remake / prequel decided to up the ante in violence and gore, but the original is a horror masterpiece and is extremely well done.
At least twice that I remember ... and I will grant you that (and that is why I say I respect it as an achievement when it was made). I suppose rather than "gore" I should have said "shock horror."

Unfortunately "shock horror" gave birth to the slasher flick, which fathered "gore-ror" films, which have devolved into "torture porn." I guess my issue with these films is that there is no suspense or true, character developing conflict. Throwing buckets of blood at the lens and seeing how depraved we can be is story telling at its basest level. Granted this can be quite cathartic, but there is no grace or dignity.
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Hey you know this just Hollywood running with the jones! remake (check) suck-money out of dumb teens (check) WIN!
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Unfortunately "shock horror" gave birth to the slasher flick, which fathered "gore-ror" films, which have devolved into "torture porn." I guess my issue with these films is that there is no suspense or true, character developing conflict. Throwing buckets of blood at the lens and seeing how depraved we can be is story telling at its basest level. Granted this can be quite cathartic, but there is no grace or dignity.
Granted, yet again, you're not really referring to the film in question.

The original film may have shock value, but it's pretty tame to what came out before and after it. Films from that period in time; The Last House on the Left and Black Christmas really were the ones who gave birth to slasher flicks or "torture porn" (despite how retarded that saying is). While the franchise itself ultimately turned into a slasher franchise (and then more "torture porn" with the 2006 prequel); the original was a film inspired by the Ed Gein murders of the fifties. It's told in a way in which the audience can understand and sympathize with the characters, young adults on a road trip. Hooper's original goal was to have the film rated PG, but the MPAA gave it an R in it's uncut form, something that most horror films in the '70s could not pull off. It's an intense movie watching experience, but it's done in such a way that I would not classify it as exploitation.

From what it sounds like, you have a bias against horror films of the nature if not in general.
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Enough with the 3D horror movies already! Now they've delayed Cabin in the Woods a whole year so they can put it out in 3D as well. We just need a remake of Frankenhooker in 3D and someone to make My Bloody Tampon and we will have a 3D horror movie for everything.
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The original is one of my favorite Horror films of all time.

I love the sequels and eventually put up with "The Next Generation"

I learned to enjoy the 2003 Remake and the Prequel for what they were.

Honestly though, I cannot back a 3-D version of the series.
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Now if they put out the remake in 3-D, ala the Toy Story movies, I would go see that. Could you imagine the shot of Biel from behind, aproaching the house through the tall grass, wearing them tight ass jeans in 3-D? Damn.
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Granted, yet again, you're not really referring to the film in question.

The original film may have shock value, but it's pretty tame to what came out before and after it. Films from that period in time; The Last House on the Left and Black Christmas really were the ones who gave birth to slasher flicks or "torture porn" (despite how retarded that saying is). While the franchise itself ultimately turned into a slasher franchise (and then more "torture porn" with the 2006 prequel); the original was a film inspired by the Ed Gein murders of the fifties. It's told in a way in which the audience can understand and sympathize with the characters, young adults on a road trip. Hooper's original goal was to have the film rated PG, but the MPAA gave it an R in it's uncut form, something that most horror films in the '70s could not pull off. It's an intense movie watching experience, but it's done in such a way that I would not classify it as exploitation.

From what it sounds like, you have a bias against horror films of the nature if not in general.

I admitted my bias upfront, so there is no question there. It's interesting that you bring up "The Last House on the Left" because that is another film that I watched and once again failed to get the purpose. In fact, it was almost laughable. On the other hand, I do respect it for the lengths that Wes Craven went to to have it seen.

I guess my issues are:

There is no empathy for the characters; there is no character development. The are flat, one dimensional cardboard-cut-out lambs that are offered up for a slaughter. "Here are some Abercrombie and Fitch models ... you should relate to them since they are young and pretty." The genre cannot even define antagonist/protagonist conflict ... we wind up "rooting" for the killer as he/she/it is the only common element through the film. Often, the killer is the only character developed in the film (or series)! What development or growth did the survivor accomplish?

The "plots" (using that term loosely) are so formulaic that they are interchangeable. We all know that a group of teenagers is going to run into a psychotic family of cannibalistic mutants and that one of them (most likely a female) will survive. The only suspense is how graphic or depraved the write/direcor can be. X (# of "kids") + Y (# of killers) + Z (# of "schocking" deaths) + 200 gallons of red Caro syrup = mindless blockbuster. It does not equal a graceful or dignified movie.

That said, there are some that I have enjoyed because they do have an undercurrent of relativity ... Saw (the first one) and Cabin Fever to name a couple. Unfortunately those filmmakers decided to cash in on the gore factor instead of continuing to explore the depths of the human psyche.

I admit I'm biased. I can recognize the accomplishment of the filmmaking behind the movie; I will still think the movie is dreck. (And I'm not trying to crap or be beligerent -- I enjoy these conversations in an effort to try to understand why people do like something, or even why I don't.)
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Again, these "issues" have almost nothing to do with the original TCM. This is why people in this thread are confused on why you keep bringing them up in a thread about TCM; you keep attempting to lump it into a later (if not completely different) type of horror film.

Talking negatively about the original TCM and bringing up complaints about "Abercrombie and Fitch models" and "200 gallons of red Caro syrup" doesn't make sense.
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Until this young generation starts watching movies made before 1980 were gonna get these remakes. So be it.
Any word on a JAWS remake yet?
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Yawn. I saw that shitty prequel on a date back in 2006 and it was just terrible. I would've thought since they didn't milk another sequel out of the reboot that this one was finally dead.

So now we have Nightmare, Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw, the Saw series, and the Final Destination movies. We're out of originality. Seriously, what the hell.

But a reboot SO fucking soon? What's the point? It's not like audiences are going to garble this up as anything else.. why not just make a sequel to the already rebooted series? You're obviously not catering to horror fans since they'll just disown it. C'mon now.
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Again, these "issues" have almost nothing to do with the original TCM. This is why people in this thread are confused on why you keep bringing them up in a thread about TCM; you keep attempting to lump it into a later (if not completely different) type of horror film.

Talking negatively about the original TCM and bringing up complaints about "Abercrombie and Fitch models" and "200 gallons of red Caro syrup" doesn't make sense.
Sorry ... it stemmed from using the words "grace and dignity" to describe the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre ... I guess it devolved from there ... My through was that TCM gave rise to the current genre ... I'll shut up (as I said, my intention wasn't to offend) ...
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