Superman: The Man of Steel (D: Snyder)
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Yeah. I liked all of that trailer. Just what Superman needed. To be different from what we know of him and be relevant to the modern world w/ it's reactions.
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I don't need more context. Clark saved her son's life, and for whatever reason, she wants to expose him (his powers) as a result. Not something I would do.
Yes, because that is how we should reward someone who (for all we know) risked his life to save another.
Sure, I'd want to understand how he did it, but not why. The undertone I get from that line is "why did he do it?"
Maybe, but if that is the case, the trailer is being deliberately manipulative to make viewers assume that it is part of something else (the "people are against Superman" angle that is apparent in the later sequence of him in chains).
She witnessed Clark doing something superhuman. Sounds like Pa Kent wants Clark to keep is powers a secret at all costs. I think that is the context in which she is talking, I am assuming that Clark denied using his powers, she saw it, maybe people thinks she's nuts and she is getting upset over that and not any hatred or prejudice for Clark.
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Smallville was it's own thing though, and on the WB it's not like it was drawing Walking Dead numbers. For the most part on film, the majority of the population hasn't seen a Superman origin story since '78. 35 years is a long time.
I'm not saying I want an origin tale, just that if any superhero was granted any leeway in going back to the well, it's Supes.
I'm not saying I want an origin tale, just that if any superhero was granted any leeway in going back to the well, it's Supes.
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It looks like a big chunk of this film is going to be about Superman not wanting to show his powers/people being frightened of Superman because of his powers. That's been addressed in the comics a lot, but it's nice to see that's the slant they're taking in the movie, which is a very "realistic" approach. Let's face it...we see a guy flying around with superhuman strength, we're more likely to think "dangerous" as opposed to "savior."
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Superman Returns barely reached the $200 million mark. For the sake of Justice League and future Superman movies, this film really needs to be the mega hit that WB hoped Returns would be. I'm thinking something like, at the very least, $300-$350 million in the US. IMDB has an estimated budget of $225 million.
It opens in mid June and there doesn't seem to be any serious threats to its box office success for the rest of the month and even into July. Wolverine opens late July. Nothing like when Dead Man's Chest opened right after Returns.
It opens in mid June and there doesn't seem to be any serious threats to its box office success for the rest of the month and even into July. Wolverine opens late July. Nothing like when Dead Man's Chest opened right after Returns.
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Criminy. The trailer is much too self-important and somber. Most of the previews for the Marvel movies are fun and novel; this one looks like a funeral is about to take place.
We'll see. I do not have faith in Zack Snyder.
We'll see. I do not have faith in Zack Snyder.
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I don't need more context. Clark saved her son's life, and for whatever reason, she wants to expose him (his powers) as a result. Not something I would do.
Yes, because that is how we should reward someone who (for all we know) risked his life to save another.
Sure, I'd want to understand how he did it, but not why. The undertone I get from that line is "why did he do it?"
Maybe, but if that is the case, the trailer is being deliberately manipulative to make viewers assume that it is part of something else (the "people are against Superman" angle that is apparent in the later sequence of him in chains).
Yes, because that is how we should reward someone who (for all we know) risked his life to save another.
Sure, I'd want to understand how he did it, but not why. The undertone I get from that line is "why did he do it?"
Maybe, but if that is the case, the trailer is being deliberately manipulative to make viewers assume that it is part of something else (the "people are against Superman" angle that is apparent in the later sequence of him in chains).
We know the tone they're going w/ this. A concept of a entity like Supes existing in the real world.
As said before, Clark saved someone. Great. The problem w/ that is that he saved them in a manner that shouldn't have even been possible. Stuff like that doesn't happen. It isn't even fathomable in the way we know things work. It's fear of the unknown, at least it seems that way when it's coupled with Pa Kent's moment in there. It's not the "why did he save the kid?" but, "how is it possible that he could do it?" I'm not sure it is that she wants to expose him but wants an understanding as to how. A bearing or grounding for that realization to exist. Which is what most people would want knowing that it's there and to have to make sense of it.
It's not the people against Superman exactly. It's humanity being cautious against a being who is able to do things that no man can do. He has surpassed the limits of amazement to the point that it terrifies. Not in what he does but as an existence. They're going w/ the idea of how does the real world accept something like that? Unlike in the comics and other medias have done...those aren't exactly the most realistic of reactions. We know how governments react and operate. We know how people react. People would want to know anything and everything about it. How can he exist? Is he human? Where is he from? So on and so forth...
Also he's in cuffs. Not chains.
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It's not the people against Superman exactly. It's humanity being cautious against a being who is able to do things that no man can do. He has surpassed the limits of amazement to the point that it terrifies. Not in what he does but as an existence. They're going w/ the idea of how does the real world accept something like that? Unlike in the comics and other medias have done...those aren't exactly the most realistic of reactions. We know how governments react and operate. We know how people react. People would want to know anything and everything about it. How can he exist? Is he human? Where is he from? So on and so forth...
Point taken. Although, would it really matter to Supes what it was? Also, in the context of the film, do the "authorities" really think those cuffs could possibly stop him if he chose to escape?
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Of course, but for me that in and of itself wouldn't cause fear. Curiosity, wonder, and probably more than a bit of envy (how come I can't fly like that type of thing), but not fear.
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Liking the trailer overall, but stupid sound on the speakers conked out. Will have to watch it at home.
Interesting to see Terrence Malick's take on Superman.....
Interesting to see Terrence Malick's take on Superman.....
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i'm thinking he's allowed to have himself put in handcuffs to show everyone he isn't a threat to them
also wondering how they are gonna deal with his real identity in this
also wondering how they are gonna deal with his real identity in this
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If that is the tone they are trying to set, it isn't anything new. It was done before - and far better - in The Day The Earth Stood Still (the 1951 classic, not the lame remake). And while that is one of my all-time favorite films, it isn't really what I want in a Superman movie. I want adventure, heroics, and villains, not some somber, heavy-handed message film about the "real world".
Point taken. Although, would it really matter to Supes what it was? Also, in the context of the film, do the "authorities" really think those cuffs could possibly stop him if he chose to escape?
Point taken. Although, would it really matter to Supes what it was? Also, in the context of the film, do the "authorities" really think those cuffs could possibly stop him if he chose to escape?
I don't think that the authorities think it'll stop him but it's more of a Superman's trying to put them in ease of some form. To not appear in some level of resistance against him. Remember...he's a nice guy.
Also..I need to get that BD of TDTESS (original).
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Wow, that was an impressive trailer. I'm actually looking forward to this film. It started out a little too serious, as if it were the soundtrack for the Passion part II. But some great visuals, and what looks to be like some really good action scenes.
I think it's good that this DC superhero movie draws a contrast to Marvels superhero movies.
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Criminy. The trailer is much too self-important and somber. Most of the previews for the Marvel movies are fun and novel; this one looks like a funeral is about to take place.
We'll see. I do not have faith in Zack Snyder.
We'll see. I do not have faith in Zack Snyder.
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As for his identity i was just thinking that maybe he leaves Kansas for a long time and changes his name, with him being older and looking different nobody would recognize him when he emerges as Supes
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And I'm in the same boat on the TDTESS BD.
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The whole "superhuman allows himself to be jailed" idea was one of the few things that Hancock did right. Hopefully there's a fresh angle on it here.
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As for the trailer, I am intrigued. I do hope it's good.
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The more I watch it, the more I don't like it. Sure, the action scenes look great. But upon closer inspection, what you see is:
- Superman falling down on his knees and spitting what looks like blood
- Superman getting thrown at a Bank Vault
- Superman surrounded by armed forces
- Superman in cuffs
I hope there's something in the movie that makes me feel GOOD about having seen it. What the hell happened to having a sense of wonder about all this?
- Superman falling down on his knees and spitting what looks like blood
- Superman getting thrown at a Bank Vault
- Superman surrounded by armed forces
- Superman in cuffs
I hope there's something in the movie that makes me feel GOOD about having seen it. What the hell happened to having a sense of wonder about all this?