Why So Blu?

Go home Dooku, you're drunk.

Count Dooku

I was just thinking that (to me) he is a really great actor who belongs in that generational pantheon along with Nicholson, Pacino, Hoffman, DeNiro, but is not as lionized as them. And yes, he has two Oscars, but he didn't bank the nominations that really signify a career of achievement.

Why So Blu?

Whose fault would that be? Does he not choose what roles to take? He won for French Connection and Unforgiven. Those are some fucking masterpieces. He's good.

inri222

I think we should give Leo and Johnny Depp 10 Oscars each (each even though there are others who are much more worthy of one) just so people would stop talking about it.
I don't get the obsession people have with those two and how they "deserve" an Oscar.

Speaking of Hackman and deserve, he should have won the Oscar for best actor in 1989 for Mississippi Burning over Dustin Hoffman for Rain Man.

Count Dooku

You sound like you hate the guy. Were you gang-raped by an Indiana basketball team?

Solid Snake

What if he was? You son of a bitch, leave him alone!

Why So Blu?

Relax, dude. You're the one with the Hackman hard on.

Count Dooku

I thought it would be nice if someone who I consider a great actor with a long and distinguished career was given a celebratory acknowledgement while he is still alive and can appreciate it.

I am clearly insane.

Count Dooku

It bothers me that he wasn't even nominated for The Conversation.

Why So Blu?

It would be redundant. He already has TWO for his actual achievements. Those are better than some "congrats for being a cool actor" award.

Count Dooku

Duh.

PatD

His Lex Luthor performance is severely underrated. He proved he has comedy chops along with his dramatic genius.

One of my favorite scenes of all time is when his Luthor turns from comedic to menacing at the turn of a dime when Superman opens the lead box to reveal the kryptonite.

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rw2516

I'm ok with his getting an "honorary" Oscar. I don't like the term "honorary" though. Makes it sound like a consolation prize. Not quite as good as the "real thing".
It's image should be changed to the ultimate honor. Given for a career that may or may not include previous wins. The pinnacle.

"I've got three best actor Oscars"
"So what? I've got an honorary Oscar. Now bring my car around."

Why So Blu?

Then what the fuck are you bellyaching about?

Double_Oh_7

Paul Newman won an Oscar, AND got a lifetime achievement thingy.

Solid Snake

is superduper a spam whore?

Jaymole

I think he should have his 2 Oscars taken away and then award him the honorary Oscar

Solid Snake

Maybe just take one away and give him an honorary pat on the back for his life's work?

dom56

Damn right. Probably one of my favorite scene.

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rocket1312

As has been mentioned, the Honorary Oscar isn't really meant for guys like Hackman who already have a collection of actual Oscars. Look at who has won it. The list is full of people who were nominated x number of times but never won. That's what it's for.

As far as comparisons to Nicholson (12 noms, 3 wins), Pacino (8,1), Hoffman (7,2) and DeNiro (7,2), his 5 nominations and 2 wins aren't really that far off from what those other guys have. Aside from Royal Tenenbaums, which I thought he should have been nominated for, it's not like his post-Unforgiven resume is littered with typical Academy fodder.

He's great. We all like him. He doesn't need the Honorary Oscar.

Newman won the Cecille B. DeMille award, which is a Golden Globes award. He did not win the Academy Honorary Oscar.

Brack

Yep. A great movie and Hackman giving one of his best performances I've ever seen him give.

MScottM

Nobody wins the Honorary Oscar. That one is awarded. The others are won.

rocket1312

Semantics. The only real difference is that the honorary award is decided on by a group of 50 or so people instead of by a group of thousands. The mechanics of the voting may be different, but it's still at the discretion of a relatively small group of people. It's not like there is some sort of objective metric that the acting awards are based on.

Drexl

Are you sure?



BTW, he was given that award the year before he won his acting Oscar for The Color of Money. The same thing happened to Henry Fonda, who won his acting Oscar for On Golden Pond a year after his honorary Oscar.

I'm not sure if they are the only examples, but Gary Cooper and Elia Kazan each won two "regular" Oscars before being awarded an honorary one.

A likely candidate for the near future is Glenn Close, who has been nominated 6 times but never won.

rocket1312

Huh? I guess I missed that. It didn't even occur to me that he would have gotten one 30 years ago. Still follows the formula though. Gary Cooper and Elia Kazan on the other hand...