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Old 08-08-11 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonic
In the trailer Spider-Man jumping roofs and the first person perspective, everything looks like a video game for Playstation 3.
That looked beyond ridiculous.

My son really likes the Spider-Man movies but even he thought "what this all about" when he saw the preview and asked why. I am wondering if there really is going to be that much of an audience for this...
Old 08-08-11 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by d2cheer
That looked beyond ridiculous.

My son really likes the Spider-Man movies but even he thought "what this all about" when he saw the preview and asked why. I am wondering if there really is going to be that much of an audience for this...
Of course there will be...it's Spider-Man. There will enough for the studio to be happy. Not as huge as when the first Spidey flick came out, that's being too hopeful..but it'll make it's money back and then some. Unless something goes horribly wrong and people just don't care for Spidey anymore.
Old 08-08-11 | 12:23 PM
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Moviegoers watch the same rom-com every week and don't mind, why would they mind a new Spider-Man
Old 08-18-11 | 06:53 PM
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Old 08-18-11 | 07:24 PM
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Oh Matt.. emotional questions that haven't been resolved? Go back to Spider-man 1 & 2, sir....

Spoiler:
Basically, Gwen finds out Peter is Spider-man and...
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when her Father dies, he tells Peter to stay away from her. And Peter understands and agrees. So he can't be with Gwen because he's going to attract dangerous situations and if anyone found out about his relationship, well, that can be exploited against him, to both of their detriment.
Sound familiar?
Old 08-18-11 | 07:34 PM
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you mean "she tells etc etc" right? Otherwise...I'm lost.
Old 09-02-11 | 07:18 PM
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From Dark Horizons:

Director Marc Webb tells Total Film that his upcoming reboot "The Amazing Spider-Man" is being filmed in a way "very specifically for 3D".

He says "there’s an experiential component to 3D that’s really fantastic and we’re experimenting with generating that point of view so you feel how Spider-Man feels when he’s jumping over these buildings.We made a conscious effort to do those effects practically and we had an incredible stunt team. We built this whole rig – hundreds of feet long – in Harlem, and we actually swung a man through traffic down the street. I thought that was really exciting, not to mention an incredible level of acrobatics!"

Webb adds a big draw for him is exploring the relationship between Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield) and his mentor Dr. Curt Connors (Rhys Ifans) who becomes the Lizard. "His [Parker] relationship with Connors, who is both mentor and adversary, I think makes for a really beautiful and interesting story."

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So, more of the crap from the teaser?
Old 09-02-11 | 07:54 PM
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I don't know, it could be cool in 3D. The trailer footage didn't do much for me, but i'm slowly gaining faith in the project
Old 09-02-11 | 08:47 PM
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well if it's live action...that could be interesting. I'm not against the CGI POV moment in the trailer but...when it's practical..it just looks real.
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If I wanted to go on a ride then I'd go on a ride. (The Spider-Man ride at Universal Islands of Adventure is actually pretty damn cool.)
Old 09-20-11 | 03:38 PM
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Just as I had no interest in this (as in zero, none, nada) I'm going to end up watching it anyway, because it turns out James Horner (favorite composer) is thisclose to scoring this movie.

Fuck.

And yes, that is enough of a reason for me to see it. I'm all about how music and image compliment each other and work together, so it's definitely enough of a reason to watch something my favorite composer is doing.
Old 09-20-11 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
Just as I had no interest in this (as in zero, none, nada) I'm going to end up watching it anyway, because it turns out James Horner (favorite composer) is thisclose to scoring this movie.

Fuck.

And yes, that is enough of a reason for me to see it. I'm all about how music and image compliment each other and work together, so it's definitely enough of a reason to watch something my favorite composer is doing.
I was about to ask why you don't simply buy the score CD until I read your last parragraph. I can respect that.
Old 09-20-11 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
Oh Matt.. emotional questions that haven't been resolved? Go back to Spider-man 1 & 2, sir....

Spoiler:
Basically, Gwen finds out Peter is Spider-man and...
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when her Father dies, he tells Peter to stay away from her. And Peter understands and agrees. So he can't be with Gwen because he's going to attract dangerous situations and if anyone found out about his relationship, well, that can be exploited against him, to both of their detriment.
Sound familiar?
Yes. It sounds like the comics.
Old 09-20-11 | 04:04 PM
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Yes. It sounds like the comics.
They already made a comic based on this movie?
Old 09-20-11 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Superboy
Yes. It sounds like the comics.
I don't know what comic you read, but that never happened. Or were you being sarcastic?

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In the comics, Gwen never found out Peter was Spider-man.

When her father was killed in the crossfire between Doc Ock and Spidey, Gwen blamed it on Spidey, not on Peter directly since she didn't know they were the same person.

Gwen then moved to England to get away from everything, and Peter chased after her once (but never actually found her in England since he had to go into action as Spidey in England and didn't want it also shown that Peter was in England simultaneously blowing his secret identity).

Gwen eventually returned to New York, and they immediately started dating again, although Peter never revealed his secret identity to her.
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Yes, I know that's not exactly what happened in the comics.

Spoiler:
You forgot to mention that she moved to England to have the Green Goblin's kids. Well, at first. Thank GOD that was retconned.
Old 09-20-11 | 07:52 PM
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I was actually thinking about that today as I was reading the comments about GS.
Old 09-20-11 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Superboy
Yes, I know that's not exactly what happened in the comics.

Spoiler:
You forgot to mention that she moved to England to have the Green Goblin's kids. Well, at first. Thank GOD that was retconned.

Spoiler:
It hasn't been retconned. Gwen and Norman's son recently came back and appeared in the American Son story arc in 2009.
Old 09-21-11 | 06:30 AM
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See, shit like that is why I stopped reading mainstream comics years ago. I still have nothing but love for the characters.
Old 09-21-11 | 01:37 PM
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See, shit like that is why I stopped reading mainstream comics years ago. I still have nothing but love for the characters.
I've never been a huge Spider-Man fan, at least in regards to the comics (I loved the FOX show when I was little), but I recently read the "Origin of the Species" HC because I generally like Mark Waid, and it was enjoyable, but nothing outstanding. However, in the back when it gives a recap of the last several years of Spider-Man comics I could hardly stop myself from laughing. I know of some of the major stupid things that have happened in the Spider-Man comics, but I didn't realize that for pretty much the last 5-10 years the Spider-Man title(s?) had been so plagued by bad stories.

Seeing that Waid was only on board for a handful of issues makes me less likely to try giving the title more of a shot....
Old 09-21-11 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Apple Gooncha
I didn't realize that for pretty much the last 5-10 years the Spider-Man title(s?) had been so plagued by bad stories.

The last 5-10 years? Try the last two decades. Spider-man pretty much jumped the shark in the early 90s and has never really recovered.

First there was Maximum Carnage in 1993 which symbolizes everything that was completely and utterly wrong with the whole 90s decade. The whole "maximum extreme" attitude of comics. Carnage himself was a crappy product of the 90s that for the love of god I still don't know why they keep using him to this day. But anyway MC was a massively decompressed storyline that took up fourteen issues when it could very easily have been told in three. It also had tons and tons of pointless gueststars like Deathlok that just showed up for no apparent reason other than to be a gimmick. The whole thing was just terribly bad and the beginning of the end for Spider-man comics.

Then there was the infamous Clone Saga that took up two entire ****ing years from 1994-1996. As bad as MC was this was far worse. Basically the sum of the Clone Saga was that from an earlier story in the 70s Peter was cloned and the cloned died, but now it was revealed that the clone was actually the real Peter and that the Peter we had known for the last 20 years was a clone. It was all a bunch of bull that was dragged on far too long. By the end nobody freaking cared anymore, and the writers had written themselves into a hole with no way out so they did the dumbest thing imaginable. They brought Norman Osborn back to life and said he was the mastermind of the whole Clone Saga, and oh the whole thing about Peter being the clone was wrong and just a mind trick Norman played on him. That entire two years was one steaming pile.

Then there was The Other in 2000. Now they rewrote Spider-man's origin. It wasn't an accident when the spider bit him. It was destiny. It was all a bunch of mystical mumbo jumbo, and Spider-man "died" and was reborn from a cocoon with some new powers like organic webbing. Some people liked it, but I thought it was bad.

There there was Sins Past in 2001. Wow just wow. This one takes the cake. Remember how Gwen's died and Gwen moved to for awhile England to get away from everything? Well Sins Past says that isn't why she moved. She moved because she cheated on Peter with Norman freaking Osborn of all people, and Norman knocked her up with twins. She moved to England to give birth and then moved back to New York and never told anyone. This was easily the dumbest storyline in the history of all comic books.

Then there was Civil War in 2004, which itself wasn't bad, but it led to something even dumber than Sins Past. Civil War was a storyline where the Marvel superheroes were fighting against each other because of some opposed the Superhero Registration Act and others didn't. The SRA wanted every superhero to register and reveal his/her secret identity to the world. Spider-man actually did this and revealed on live TV that he is Peter Parker.

That in turn led to One More Day. What I said before about Sins Past being the worst storyline ever. One More Day managed to top it. Kingpin after discovering Spider-man is Peter Parker sent an assassin to Peter's home to kill him. The sniper assassin shoots but of course Peter's spider-sense warns him and he dodges but the bullet strikes Aunt May. Aunt May is near death. The top doctors in the world cannot save her. Tony Stark even offers to give as much money as possible, but nothing can save her. So what does Peter do? He makes a deal with the freaking devil to save Aunt May's life. Mephisto is basically the devil in the Marvel universe. He offers to save Aunt May but it will cost Peter his marriage and it won't be that they aren't just married anymore, it will be that they were never married period. So in one swoop 20+ years of Spider-man history is effectively erased, because the marriage never happened at all. Also nevermind the fact that Aunt May said she was ready to pass on, Peter couldn't except it and was a greedy bastard and gave up his marriage and any future potential kids he might have just because he couldn't let Aunt May go. So he makes a deal with the devil. Isn't Peter supposed to be some brilliant scientist? Even a moron knows making a deal with the devil always always comes back to bite you in the ass. "With great power comes great responsibility?" Uncle Ben would be rolling in his grave if he knew how Peter turned out in OMD.

Oh well. Enough of that. It has nothing to do with the movie, but I always get frustrated when I think how Marvel has completely ruined Spider-man over the last two decades.
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The last 5-10 years? Try the last two decades. Spider-man pretty much jumped the shark in the early 90s and has never really recovered.

First there was Maximum Carnage in 1993 which symbolizes everything that was completely and utterly wrong with the whole 90s decade. The whole "maximum extreme" attitude of comics. Carnage himself was a crappy product of the 90s that for the love of god I still don't know why they keep using him to this day. But anyway MC was a massively decompressed storyline that took up fourteen issues when it could very easily have been told in three. It also had tons and tons of pointless gueststars like Deathlok that just showed up for no apparent reason other than to be a gimmick. The whole thing was just terribly bad and the beginning of the end for Spider-man comics.

Then there was the infamous Clone Saga that took up two entire ****ing years from 1994-1996. As bad as MC was this was far worse. Basically the sum of the Clone Saga was that from an earlier story in the 70s Peter was cloned and the cloned died, but now it was revealed that the clone was actually the real Peter and that the Peter we had known for the last 20 years was a clone. It was all a bunch of bull that was dragged on far too long. By the end nobody freaking cared anymore, and the writers had written themselves into a hole with no way out so they did the dumbest thing imaginable. They brought Norman Osborn back to life and said he was the mastermind of the whole Clone Saga, and oh the whole thing about Peter being the clone was wrong and just a mind trick Norman played on him. That entire two years was one steaming pile.

Then there was The Other in 2000. Now they rewrote Spider-man's origin. It wasn't an accident when the spider bit him. It was destiny. It was all a bunch of mystical mumbo jumbo, and Spider-man "died" and was reborn from a cocoon with some new powers like organic webbing. Some people liked it, but I thought it was bad.

There there was Sins Past in 2001. Wow just wow. This one takes the cake. Remember how Gwen's died and Gwen moved to for awhile England to get away from everything? Well Sins Past says that isn't why she moved. She moved because she cheated on Peter with Norman freaking Osborn of all people, and Norman knocked her up with twins. She moved to England to give birth and then moved back to New York and never told anyone. This was easily the dumbest storyline in the history of all comic books.

Then there was Civil War in 2004, which itself wasn't bad, but it led to something even dumber than Sins Past. Civil War was a storyline where the Marvel superheroes were fighting against each other because of some opposed the Superhero Registration Act and others didn't. The SRA wanted every superhero to register and reveal his/her secret identity to the world. Spider-man actually did this and revealed on live TV that he is Peter Parker.

That in turn led to One More Day. What I said before about Sins Past being the worst storyline ever. One More Day managed to top it. Kingpin after discovering Spider-man is Peter Parker sent an assassin to Peter's home to kill him. The sniper assassin shoots but of course Peter's spider-sense warns him and he dodges but the bullet strikes Aunt May. Aunt May is near death. The top doctors in the world cannot save her. Tony Stark even offers to give as much money as possible, but nothing can save her. So what does Peter do? He makes a deal with the freaking devil to save Aunt May's life. Mephisto is basically the devil in the Marvel universe. He offers to save Aunt May but it will cost Peter his marriage and it won't be that they aren't just married anymore, it will be that they were never married period. So in one swoop 20+ years of Spider-man history is effectively erased, because the marriage never happened at all. Also nevermind the fact that Aunt May said she was ready to pass on, Peter couldn't except it and was a greedy bastard and gave up his marriage and any future potential kids he might have just because he couldn't let Aunt May go. So he makes a deal with the devil. Isn't Peter supposed to be some brilliant scientist? Even a moron knows making a deal with the devil always always comes back to bite you in the ass. "With great power comes great responsibility?" Uncle Ben would be rolling in his grave if he knew how Peter turned out in OMD.

Oh well. Enough of that. It has nothing to do with the movie, but I always get frustrated when I think how Marvel has completely ruined Spider-man over the last two decades.
So, in summary, nothing this movie does can be worse than the past 20 years of Spider-Man comics.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
So, in summary, nothing this movie does can be worse than the past 20 years of Spider-Man comics.

Well, I didn't think anything could ever be worse than Sins Past but One More Day topped it...

So never say never.
Old 09-21-11 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
Well, I didn't think anything could ever be worse than Sins Past but One More Day topped it...

So never say never.
Touché.
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Funny...I thought what Romita Jr. did w/ JMS was pretty cool. It actually grew peter up as an adult a bit.


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