Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
#626
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
The suit is not awful, but not really that great either. I did not realize Spidey had yet to hit puberty in this movie, the guy is awfully small.
#628
Suspended
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Agree. This is what I expect, a young skinny nerd. Not what we got out of those awful 3 movies, Peter Puffer the future pedophile.
After 10 years of those turds, Im pretty excited about this movie.
#629
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Looks like Spiderman is getting Twilighted. Sigh. Heroin vampire chic is back, with bedhead.
Would've been nice to have a real Spiderman 4 rather than (yet another) reboot. Back to the origin story, again.... yawn... nothing but origin stories these days. I've pretty much stopped seeing superhero movies and I think their time is coming to a close because of the constant trashing and rebooting of the franchises.
Would've been nice to have a real Spiderman 4 rather than (yet another) reboot. Back to the origin story, again.... yawn... nothing but origin stories these days. I've pretty much stopped seeing superhero movies and I think their time is coming to a close because of the constant trashing and rebooting of the franchises.
#630
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Looks like Spiderman is getting Twilighted. Sigh. Heroin vampire chic is back, with bedhead.
Would've been nice to have a real Spiderman 4 rather than (yet another) reboot. Back to the origin story, again.... yawn... nothing but origin stories these days. I've pretty much stopped seeing superhero movies and I think their time is coming to a close because of the constant trashing and rebooting of the franchises.
Would've been nice to have a real Spiderman 4 rather than (yet another) reboot. Back to the origin story, again.... yawn... nothing but origin stories these days. I've pretty much stopped seeing superhero movies and I think their time is coming to a close because of the constant trashing and rebooting of the franchises.
#632
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
The only major reboot that's been released so far has been Hulk, and the overall reception to that was fairly positive. I know a Spider-Man reboot seems too soon, but other then that I'm not sure what the complaint about origin stories are when we're talking about new comic to movie translations like Thor, Captain America, or Green Lantern that requires the origin to be shown.
Lately, if a superhero movie doesn't make 100 million on it's first NIGHT, they plan the reboot, and I think the novelty factor of a new actor and costume will not make up for the fact that they're not improving the WRITING of these movies and the audiences are going to get alienated from these franchises and get sick of paying the $20 3D prices. Imagine if every Pirates of the Carribean movie was a reboot with a new actor playing Jack and a new origin story... people will just get sick of it.
#633
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
I thought about Punisher and War Zone, but both ended being both pretty minor releases that didn't get much attention from the general audience. Superman Returns being a continuation of the Donner/Lester movies makes it sort of an anomaly too.
I know the word reboot is the big annoyance these days, but I never really understood why it would detract anyone from all comic book Superhero movies in general, and not just whatever particular franchise you don't care for.
#634
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Um... X Men just got rebooted... they're going with yet another new Hulk... Superman is about to be rebooted (why??? they just rebooted it!!)... I'm pretty sure Fantastic Four is about to be rebooted... I would be willing to bet they're already planning a Green Lantern "dark" reboot...
Lately, if a superhero movie doesn't make 100 million on it's first NIGHT, they plan the reboot, and I think the novelty factor of a new actor and costume will not make up for the fact that they're not improving the WRITING of these movies and the audiences are going to get alienated from these franchises and get sick of paying the $20 3D prices. Imagine if every Pirates of the Carribean movie was a reboot with a new actor playing Jack and a new origin story... people will just get sick of it.
Lately, if a superhero movie doesn't make 100 million on it's first NIGHT, they plan the reboot, and I think the novelty factor of a new actor and costume will not make up for the fact that they're not improving the WRITING of these movies and the audiences are going to get alienated from these franchises and get sick of paying the $20 3D prices. Imagine if every Pirates of the Carribean movie was a reboot with a new actor playing Jack and a new origin story... people will just get sick of it.
And that's quite an exaggeration, Thor is already in line for a sequel and wasn't a box office monster, and both First Class and Green Lantern have talk about sequels thrown around.
#636
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Well, yeah in certain cases it makes sense but it's still a reboot. And with respect to Superman, I'm talking about the new film that's being made.
Personally the annoyance is the origin rehash, which allows for an easy path to the cash. I'd much rather see sequels that involve more of the mythos and villains than the cheaper and more recognizable standbys because it lets the filmmakers off the hook from making a very good film.
Unless a film was utterly horrid, why reboot? Just make a sequel and change the style or villain.
PopcornTreeCT, I doubt Marvel/Disney reboot; recast yeah that's possible, but they'll just continue with the storylines already established. They're linking these films and have tons of stories to choose from without having to go back to that origin well.
Personally the annoyance is the origin rehash, which allows for an easy path to the cash. I'd much rather see sequels that involve more of the mythos and villains than the cheaper and more recognizable standbys because it lets the filmmakers off the hook from making a very good film.
Unless a film was utterly horrid, why reboot? Just make a sequel and change the style or villain.
PopcornTreeCT, I doubt Marvel/Disney reboot; recast yeah that's possible, but they'll just continue with the storylines already established. They're linking these films and have tons of stories to choose from without having to go back to that origin well.
#637
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Well, yeah in certain cases it makes sense but it's still a reboot. And with respect to Superman, I'm talking about the new film that's being made.
Personally the annoyance is the origin rehash, which allows for an easy path to the cash. I'd much rather see sequels that involve more of the mythos and villains than the cheaper and more recognizable standbys because it lets the filmmakers off the hook from making a very good film.
Unless a film was utterly horrid, why reboot? Just make a sequel and change the style or villain.
Personally the annoyance is the origin rehash, which allows for an easy path to the cash. I'd much rather see sequels that involve more of the mythos and villains than the cheaper and more recognizable standbys because it lets the filmmakers off the hook from making a very good film.
Unless a film was utterly horrid, why reboot? Just make a sequel and change the style or villain.
#639
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
If it was up to me, there would be no more orgin movies for Superman & Spiderman (throw Batman in as well). These are the most popular heroes & the public knows their origin. Superman just had a 10 year origin story on TV. I'd rather them just have the hero already existing & get on with the story. If they truly need some orgin, why not just a character on screen say a couple lines to sum it up. In Superman, Lois could be talking to someone & say "Superman was sent to Earth from a dying planet & Earth's yellow sun give him powers." BOOM, it gives enough background on him & explains how he got his powers.
#640
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
For example, they set up a really cool Spiderman franchise with Raimi and Tobey Maguire with a fantastic pair of movies. Yes, the third one wasn't as good, but they could've dusted themselves off and made a killer part 4, rooted in the cool world and style that's been established, without having to double back and do the origin all over again. The new one looks like Twilight, and once again the execs are writing off audiences who are older than 14.
#641
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
For example, they set up a really cool Spiderman franchise with Raimi and Tobey Maguire with a fantastic pair of movies. Yes, the third one wasn't as good, but they could've dusted themselves off and made a killer part 4, rooted in the cool world and style that's been established, without having to double back and do the origin all over again. The new one looks like Twilight, and once again the execs are writing off audiences who are older than 14.
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Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
That's the part where I don't think Raimi could do much with cuz well...6 arms on a guy is pretty damn weird. It might look laughable too. Storywise..I'm sure Raimi would have a damn blast.
#649
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
I think that's what it is. So far, all we have to go on are the official pics (which I think look great) and the writers/producers saying they're going for more grounded relationships/dialogue, less action, etc. I was never a fan of the previous three, so this reboot is welcome news. As others have pointed out, the previous movies were becoming too bloated/expensive for their own good, and the studio made a calculated decision to reel that in. Looking back, it is amazing to see how quickly the series turned... for those that really liked those films I can see how it it's disappointing, but honestly, have you rewatched them since they first came out?
#650
Moderator
Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Yeah, I can't believe people are clamoring for more Raimi after part 3. Didn't have to be a reboot, but new blood was definitely needed.



