emachine12

Because motor oil and fuel are two different things. Bumblebee leaked what I presumed to be fuel all over Simmons.

RocShemp

Really? I always presumed it was oil given that what looked like a filter popped Simmons in the head before his lubricating shower.

emachine12

It could be then why wasn't it black like other oil? And why are we debating this anyway? When we were kids we never asked these kinds of questions.

pinata242

When we were kids, not even the Junkticons pissed on people.

emachine12

That is true. Very true.

RocShemp

It wouldn't be black if he had a recent oil change. It would be diluted coffee coloured.

This is what happens when someone decides, "hey, wouldn't it be awesome if a Transformer would piss on somebody?" and nobody had the balls to say "no, Michael, that's fucking stupid". Sadly, I must admit that scene made me laugh the first time I saw it.

When I was a kid we didn't even have "Junkticons". Are those evil versions of the Junkions?

Gizmo

Such a stupid movie.

Can someone tell me why Shia didn't just take the original piece of the Allspark and stick that in Optimus Prime? That would have worked, right?

Travis McClain

Um...'cause...wait, where did that thing go, anyway?

Supermallet

Or have the other Autobots hook themselves up to Optimus and kickstart him back up the way the Decepticons did with Megatron.

Gizmo

Or how Meagan Fox was able to carry a moving robot (locked inside a case) on an airplane? Thinking back - did she have only a few lines?

Gizmo

Wait, where did the other autobots go? I'm not a huge fan of the series, but didn't the first end with like 5 or 6 of them? I only saw Optimus and a "B". What happened to Jazz and the others? WTF? This shit hurts my head!

fumanstan

Jazz died in the first one.

Supermallet

Spoiler tags!!!!1!!!1!

fumanstan

Strangely, no one cared enough to bring Jazz back apparently (the first movie still sucks more then the second, I say!)

Gizmo

Ok, what about the other autobots? Where did they go? I only saw Prime and "B". I don't remember the others names but there were several.

MrSmearkase

Worth a read...

Transformers 2 FAQ

Travis McClain

She didn't fit the profile of a potential terrorist, so the violent, sentient robot inside the case was overlooked by the guy running the X-ray machine. It's understandable.

The first film featured: Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Jazz, Ironhide and Ratchet. The first two were pretty prominent in both films; the third has been discussed (without the proper spoiler tag) and the final two appeared in scenes with the NEST group. Since we (the audience) followed Sam's story, we didn't see much of them.

See above. Also, see the multi-quote feature. It makes it so much easier for everyone else to read and keep up with threads.

Nick Martin

This is slightly Transformers related but entirely Michael Bay related:

When discussing "AVATAR", composer James Horner had an interesting comment about Michael Bay:

Source:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero....html#comments

Michael Bay apparently responded to this in the comments, though it could be anyone....he is known for commenting on internet sites, isn't he? Since this was an article on the L.A. Times site with his name in the title, the real Bay certainly could have seen it so it could be real:

Supermallet

"Why can only a Prime kill the Fallen? Why can Jetfire teleport? Why can the Fallen wave a staff and make shit fly around? Why do actual cars and Autobots get sucked into Devastator's maw, but John Turturro and that other kid can run around?"

"Because... because FUCK YOU, that's why."

Draven

I've read that before, buy my favorite is still:

Truer words have never been spoken.

Travis McClain

Michael Bay may not understand the soul of Avatar, but I don't even understand the premise of it. Just what the hell is it, anyway? Some kind of Halo-meetsNeverending Story epic? All I know is, it was expensive as hell and the expectations are through the roof for it. It's like being at a party and everyone is raving about a drink someone there has been mixing all night, insisting you have one. You ask what's in it and the only response anyone gives you is, "Who cares? It's awesome!"

As for Bay's sense of nuance and artistry, the guy knows exactly what kind of movie he wants to make and he makes it. It may not explore the subtleties of the human condition, but--except when he said The Island would deliver a healthy box office return--they do deliver exactly what he says they will deliver. I think the high-brow haters need to get over themselves. Go tell your nuanced story and let your attentive audience appreciate your diligent work. What harm is there in Michael Bay bringing in $100 million with his popcorn flicks to keep the studios in the black? MGM would have done well to have financed something of his in the last decade; then James Bond wouldn't have been the only profitable thing they had going while they took baths on all the more nuanced fare they thought would go over well.

Supermallet

I don't think we're bashing Michael Bay just to bash him. I love The Rock and really liked the first Transformers. But this movie is like being shit on repeatedly and when you complain, you're told to like it.

slop101

I still don't get how people can like the first one and hate the 2nd one, when they're both pieces of crap, just different shades of shit. So I'm not saying it's good, but I do think that I may like Transformers2 more than Terminator4, solely based on intent. Trans2 doesn't pretend to be anything more than what it is, whereas Term4 actually thinks it's about something. discuss.

Travis McClain

This seems pretty fair and sensible to me. I'd never insist that someone ought to like something they don't (except baseball). I was just noticing a trend in the backlash that seemed to revolve around how obnoxiously pro-military, anti-story Michael Bay is and wanted to know how many of those who dislike this specific film were just expanding their contempt for him.

I admit, I left the theater disappointed. I think they should have waited another year to make this film, which might have given enough time for the writing team to develop something less full of holes. During that time, Bay really ought to have been the one to direct G.I. Joe; I don't know how Paramount and Dreamworks managed to miss that opportunity. Michael Bay directing that would be even more perfect than Brett Ratner directing Rob Leifeld's Youngblood.

Hokeyboy

I'm no Michael Bay "hater", I really enjoyed the first movie. I'll go on record as loving ARMAGEDDON, too.

We tried watching 45 minutes of this tripe over the weekend. Biggest POS I have seen in a LONG time. Not only did we shut it off to grab a snack and never bothered to even turn it back on and in fact forgot to, the next day we couldn't remember a single damn thing about the story or characters.

For a big budget action/scifi CGI spectacular, what a collossal BORE.