No, I got your point the first time. Message boards across the Internet have been alight with such ideas from fans, trying to pick apart things that were already in motion in the 1.0 continuity that would still affect 2.0, such as V'ger returning to Earth and the Borg, etc. Yes, these would be "new experiences" for the 2.0 characters but what I'm saying I'm tired of is seeing the same species again and again, 1.0, 2.0 or other.

Go back and watch the original series sometime. The Klingons appear in the most number of episodes, and it's a lot less than you'd think. The Romulans feature in precisely two episodes. We see two different Andorians, and one of those is in an asylum for the criminally insane. The only other species I can recall appearing twice is an Orion slave girl, and technically the first one we see is just Vina appearing as one in "The Cage." That's it. Every other episode actually showed us "strange, new worlds; new life and new civilization." I don't need to see 2.0 versions of anything I've already seen.

Story-wise, I'll go along with anything as long as it's interesting but, and this is going to sound strange, what I absolutely do not have any interest in is a story about Star Trek. I don't care what 2.0 Organians are like. Their role in the 1.0 time line was to personify MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction), the military threat that kept the Cold War cold. They played a role in telling a story about U.S./Soviet relations in the 1960s. If 2.0 Organians are the best way to tell a story about 21st Century international relations, then I'm all for it. But telling a story about them just because they were a memorable species from back when is not, to me, a sufficient reason to build a story around them.

Pretty funny, and spot on when you think about it.

Nice. Surprised they didn't mention that the farmboy has the hots for a chick that instead hooks up later with the guy he dislikes but comes to be friends with.

Hey for those of you still wanting to see Star Trek in "IMAX LITE" check your local AMC listings. I'm still seeing it scheduled.


**Not "real" Imax but still, the picture is slightly bigger and better and the sound is awesome.

Just saw it tonight, and I have to say...not all that impressed.

I had pretty high expectations, which were only fueled by the postive reviews. I'm not a Trekkie by any means, but I do like movies, especially II-IV. I even enjoyed The Final Frontier.

The opening scene was great. Very powerful. Sets the story up nicely. Then...it just never recaptures that feeling. The villain was fairly dull, his intentions weren't made clear, the story was kind of convoluted (made worse when Leonard Nimoy shows up to explain what's going on). It was great to see Nimoy back as Spock, but his lengthy explaination was kind of confusing. I do get the jist of it, it just seemed much ado about nothing.

The action was pretty good, and the pace was quick, and in this day and age, I appreciated that there wasn't one eye-rolling moment in the whole film, but that's not enough. Spock and Uhura's relationship was completely undeveloped; nothing is really.

I do have to admit that I was kind of tired when I saw it, but I thought it would be balanced by the fact that I've really wanted to see it.

My rating: **1/2 (out of 4)

just saw it for a 2^nd time which i never do in this day and age, but still a thrill ride. even knowing what is to come, still enjoyable and was able to take it in more and see things i didn't first time around. can't wait for hopefully a nice dvd package for my thirdsies.

best o' year so far.

Finally got around to seeing this, which is good, because I'm sure had I seen this on its opening weekend then the hype would have lessened my enjoyment of the film. It was good, but nothing really wowed me.

I haven't seen ST: Nemesis for a couple of years, but from my memory of that film, Nero seemed cut from the same cloth as Shinzon. I don't have a particular problem with Nemesis, really; it was a slick entry in the series, just as this one was.

Loved the winks and nods to earlier Trek, particularly the bit with the overzealous red shirt who bites it on the dive to reach and destroy the drill on Vulcan. Although I thought they skimped out on some of the character development of young (kid) Kirk. The whole joyride scene served little other purpose other than him telling us his name. At least young Spock's scene contributed something to his back-story.

Looking forward to the Blu-ray!

it showed that Kirk's whole life he was a cocky trouble maker with no respect for authority

I recently read the prequel comic
while it explains some things, and shows us that Nero's hate of Spock is even less clear than the movie without the back story. He knew Spock was doing all he could and that the Romulan government was to blame for the delay

Wow, if could find a theater playing ST now I'd see another 4 or 5 times.

It's been back since the beginning of Sept. at my AMC...in full IMAX. Here's the list:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/09/01/...turns-to-imax/

Universal City , CA – Citywalk Stadium 19 with IMAX
Westchester , CA – Bridge De Lux 18 + IMAX

Cool thanks!

I thought I read it was only a 2 week limited engagement, starting at the start of september..?

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Taysiders in Space: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEg5NDZ6rnM

http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/...id=68701708001

That was fun. Never seen that site before, looks like they have lots of others.

I love HISHE . pretty funny.

there goes the rest of the night

How about this:

Instead of having the Enterprise come across the Botany Bay, the Klingons find it first. And Khan, being the supreme badass he is, takes over the Klingon Empire and then sets his sights on the Federation. So you have Klingons being villains again. Khan is back, and not just in a rehash of Space Seed or Wrath of Khan. Khan and his supermen actually get to lead an Empire full of the galaxy's most hardcore warriors.

I approve of this idea (not that it means much in the grand scheme of things).

No Khan. No, no, no. They need to come up with new ideas.

Agreed. The plot of Star Trek was its weakest element (well that and JJ Abrams obsession with super duper close-ups), and it's a vast universe, they need to come up with something good and original.

I wouldn't mind Khan for JJ's Star Trek 3 or 4... but would agree they need to do some new stuff... or maybe elevate a different character from the original show to something more... Tholians, Harry Mudd, etc. Would love to see a full out Federation v. Gorn battle tho.