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islandclaws

Taxi.

You know, what really shitty Jimmy Fallon movie with Queen Latifah. I never saw it, but the trailer was enough to make me feel nauseous in ways no other film has.

devilshalo

That's a tough call.. no Star Wars means no ILM.

hasslein

I saw Glitter in the theatre, I can think of a lot more movies that were painfully bad, I actually did enjoy it, the same way I enjoy Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band... A bad film, but never boring, great eye candy, and some good tunes... I think it did tarnish her legacy, but only because the media perpetuated it, not the film itself....

UAIOE

I think his character would have helped solidify the movie in the "mediocre" category instead of in the "bad".

It isn't a knock against Charles Dance, he is a good actor, but his powers don't extend to fixing that script.

NoirFan

Ditto. The success of Star Wars, along with the failure of Heaven's Gate, helped bring about the end of the intelligent, character-driven work that flourished in the 1970's.

Kicker_of_Elves

Rob Zombie's Halloween
Rob Zombie's H2

Jaymole

Exactly...and it also ushered in Star Wars fanatics who are even more annoying than Trekkies

DaveCole

I had successfully repressed the memory of that film and had myself believing they had just misnumbered with 3 coming after the original. Now the horror is all flooding back.

Ronnie Dobbs

Indy 4
Blues Brothers 2000
The Jaws sequels
Godfather 3
Star Wars Prequels

emachine

Fight Club

Grubert

Another vote for Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions.

For some reason, neither Alien 3 nor Resurrection ruined my enjoyment of the first movies, but the Matrix sequels did.

Michael Corvin

or THX, the "summer blockbuster" or even Pixar. Chew on that one.

wendersfan

The entire reason why I wish Star Wars had never been made is "the summer blockbuster". THX, ILM and Pixar don't interest me much.

Mondo Kane

Didn't Jaws start that?

Michael Corvin

Jaws cracked the door open, Star Wars blew it off its hinges.
So there isn't a single summer blockbuster in the past 30 years you enjoyed?

wendersfan

Probably not but I can't say for sure. However, you are missing the point. It's not all the shitty, mindless, expensive movies that are made and screened because of the success of Star Wars, it's all the good movies with plot, character development, thoughtful examination of themes, etc., that never get made or never get screened because studios and multiplexes put all their eggs in the blockbuster basket. The Wrestler cost $6 million. The Dark Knight cost $185 million. I'd much rather have 30 movies like The Wrestler than a single TDK. Even if only five of them were any good it would be worth it.

RichC2

TDK, imo, is the wrong movie to make an example of, hate it or not there are far more mindless action flicks that attempt far less for a greater budget.

But I get that complaint for the most part, and I get the Star Wars effects extravaganza "summer movie" bit. But I don't think I could handle 30 movies like The Wrestler based solely on good characters in recycled plots.

wendersfan

You're probably right but I haven't seen it so I don't know. How about Hancock? It cost $150 million. I'd rather take that money and hand it over to the woman who made Wendy and Lucy and allow her to make all the movies she wants for the rest of her life. Or have her split it with Lodge Kerrigan, the guy who made Keane and Clean, Shaven.

superdeluxe

Godzilla.

Hiro11

Johnny Mnemonic, because it meant that Neuromancer or any other cyberpunk movie never got made.

One from the Heart, it ended Coppola from ever being good again.

Top Gun, although I kind of like it, because if basically lobotomized action movies for the next twenty years.

Hiro11

But both got made, so... what's your point again? Also, you're assuming that there are 30 high quality scripts/filmakers/acting crews out there who's only roadblock to getting made is funding. I don't think so.

Michael Corvin

I'm not missing the point at all. It's a chicken & egg situation. You want 30 movies like the wrester but 29 of them won't make money. Hancock may cost $150m but it raked in nearly $650m worldwide. The money a movie like Hancock makes allows the smaller films to be greenlit. You may not get as many small dramas per year as you like, but I'd say you are getting more than you would if studios took away the summer tent poles.

You have to take the good with the bad. For every Raiders of the Lost Ark, Dark Knight or Jurassic Park there are going to be a bunch of Hancocks.

fujishig

I stopped cold after 2, but how did they ever reconcile the rest of the series with the crap that Highlander 2 brought (the aliens, the prison colony, etc)? Did they just ignore it for the rest of the movies and the tv series?

aintnosin

Most sequels.
Most remakes.
Most Adam Sandler movies.
All Rob Scheider movies.