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Old 01-22-09 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Doughboy

I just noticed the 5 Director nominees are all from the 5 Picture nominees. That hardly ever happens. Usually one director gets shut out.
yeah i think the last time that happened was the year Crash won in 2006.
Old 01-22-09 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
It's not an amazing film. It's a very good film with some great performances. Which Ron Howard specializes in(most of the time).

I just noticed the 5 Director nominees are all from the 5 Picture nominees. That hardly ever happens. Usually one director gets shut out.
It's been under the radar, even though it's consistently been chosen by critics and other organizations as BP and Director nominees.
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Originally Posted by Elpresidentepez
The Wrestler and "Another Way to Die" not getting noms for best song.
"Another Way To Die" is a TERRIBLE Bond song. At least in terms of vocals. IMO only Lulu's "The Man With the Golden Gun" is worse.

No argument on Bruce though.
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Originally Posted by Truffaut Fan
This thread is laughable. What planet are you guys from that you thought TDK was going to get nominated for Best Picture?? I'm not even arguing whether it was deserving or not, but did you seriously expect it to be? I need some of whatever you are smoking.

For the record, I loved TDK.
6 reasons.

-It's the 2nd highest grossing film of all-time (non-inflation).
-It will have a Supporting Actor win.
-It's been on several top 10 lists
-It received a Director's Guild nomination
-It received a Producer's Guild nomination
-It received a Writer's Guild nomination

That usually adds up to an Oscar nomination for Picture.
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
"Another Way To Die" is a TERRIBLE Bond song. At least in terms of vocals. IMO only Lulu's "The Man With the Golden Gun" is worse.
i'm still miffed You Know My Name didn't get nominated back for Casino Royale but what can you do?

interesting, no noms for sound/special effects/etc for Indiana Jones
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4 of the 5 BP nominees are up for Editing. I don't think that's happened in the last few years. Makes it a tad harder to pick the BP winner.
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Nominations Discussion.

Originally Posted by Truffaut Fan
This thread is laughable. What planet are you guys from that you thought TDK was going to get nominated for Best Picture?? I'm not even arguing whether it was deserving or not, but did you seriously expect it to be? I need some of whatever you are smoking.
I think we're all smoking the same shit as the Directors and Producers Guild.
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Disappointments:
1. No Cinematography nomination for THE FALL? What the fuck?
2. The Dark Knight not getting a Best Picture/Best Director nominations?
3. Darren Arronofsky not getting a Best Director nomination?
4. The Wrestler not getting a Best Picture nomination? What the fuck?
5. Sally Hawkins not getting nominated for Best Actress? Are they high?
6. Brad Pitt getting nominated? He did a good job, but not worthy of nomination.
7. Stop nominating Penelope Cruz - she's an awful actress!
8. Not nominating Springsteen for the Wrestler? That song is part of the movie - it ain't just some filler song for the credits.
9. Frost/Nixon nominations? why? It's a fair film.

Happy with:
1. Rourke, Tomei, Brolin, Downey Jr., Shannon, Doubt cast, Henson, and Slumdog nominations
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
Ordinarily I'd agree with that, but Slumdog is unique in that multiple actors played the kids. That makes it tough to nominate anyone in the acting categories.
Dev Patel did get a SAG nomination for Supporting Actor and his name was mentioned often for an Oscar nod.
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Nominations Discussion.

I'll echo this: The Reader is not better than the Dark Knight, no where close. B.S. really.

I'm a minority, I know, but Slumdog Millionaire is over-rated. It didn't move me as others and I think it's merely good, not great. I am rooting for Milk now.
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
7. Stop nominating Penelope Cruz - she's an awful actress!
The funny part is that in Spain she's not even considered to be a very good actress. She's been pulling the same shtick of the feisty girl who throws tantrums for who knows how long. If you said Maribel Verdú, now we're talking.
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Disappointments:
* No dark Knight Noms for Best Picture and Best Director
*NOTHING for Synecdoche, New York. This should have got Noms for Score, Song ("Little Person"), Actor, and Original Screenplay. FUCK The Slumdog Millionaire "songs". Fuck them hard.
*No technical love for the FALL
* The Love for Frost/Nixon. It wasn't very good and Certainly NOT WORTHY of Best Picture and Best Actor noms.
*No song nom for Springsteen makes these noms look like bullshit. Sound categories have 5 nominees but they only have 3 for Song. WTF!!!!!!?
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Nominations Discussion.

Originally Posted by Truffaut Fan
This thread is laughable. What planet are you guys from that you thought TDK was going to get nominated for Best Picture?? I'm not even arguing whether it was deserving or not, but did you seriously expect it to be? I need some of whatever you are smoking.

For the record, I loved TDK.
Your post is laughable. First, you have merely glossed over the comments, not read any of them. Second, one word - Titanic.
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Nominations Discussion.

Originally Posted by toddly6666
Disappointments:
1. No Cinematography nomination for THE FALL? What the fuck?
2. The Dark Knight not getting a Best Picture/Best Director nominations?
3. Darren Arronofsky not getting a Best Director nomination?
4. The Wrestler not getting a Best Picture nomination? What the fuck?
5. Sally Hawkins not getting nominated for Best Actress? Are they high?
6. Brad Pitt getting nominated? He did a good job, but not worthy of nomination.
7. Stop nominating Penelope Cruz - she's an awful actress!
8. Not nominating Springsteen for the Wrestler? That song is part of the movie - it ain't just some filler song for the credits.
9. Frost/Nixon nominations? why? It's a fair film.

Happy with:
1. Rourke, Tomei, Brolin, Downey Jr., Shannon, Doubt cast, Henson, and Slumdog nominations
1) boooo, the Academy is worthless
5) yes, apparently they are
6) I agree
9) have yet to see it, but I felt the same way over 'Benjamin Button' very average - nothing special in my book
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In a way, I'm glad that they're now forced to give Winslet the real award this year, instead of throwing her a Supporting win as a career consolation prize (like they did with Blanchett for The Aviator).

Winslet and Ledger are the only two locks in the main categories at this point.
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Performance by an actor in a leading role
• Richard Jenkins in The Visitor
• Frank Langella in Frost/Nixon
• Sean Penn in Milk
• Brad Pitt in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
• Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler


Performance by an actor in a supporting role
• Josh Brolin in Milk
• Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder
• Philip Seymour Hoffman in Doubt
• Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight
• Michael Shannon in Revolutionary Road


Performance by an actress in a leading role
• Anne Hathaway in Rachel Getting Married
• Angelina Jolie in Changeling
• Melissa Leo in Frozen River
• Meryl Streep in Doubt
• Kate Winslet in The Reader


Performance by an actress in a supporting role
• Amy Adams in Doubt
• Penélope Cruz in Vicky Cristina Barcelona
• Viola Davis in Doubt
• Taraji P. Henson in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
• Marisa Tomei in The Wrestler


Best animated feature film of the year
Bolt, Chris Williams and Byron Howard
Kung Fu Panda, John Stevenson and Mark Osborne
WALL•E, Andrew Stanton


Achievement in art direction
Changeling, Art Direction: James J. Murakami, Set Decoration: Gary Fettis
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Art Direction: Donald Graham Burt, Set Decoration: Victor J. Zolfo
The Dark Knight, Art Direction: Nathan Crowley, Set Decoration: Peter Lando
The Duchess, Art Direction: Michael Carlin, Set Decoration: Rebecca Alleway
Revolutionary Road, Art Direction: Kristi Zea, Set Decoration: Debra Schutt


Achievement in cinematography
Changeling, Tom Stern
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Claudio Miranda
The Dark Knight, Wally Pfister
The Reader, Chris Menges and Roger Deakins
Slumdog Millionaire, Anthony Dod Mantle


Achievement in costume design
Australia, Catherine Martin
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Jacqueline West
The Duchess, Michael O’Connor
Milk, Danny Glicker
Revolutionary Road, Albert Wolsky


Achievement in directing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, David Fincher
Frost/Nixon, Ron Howard
Milk, Gus Van Sant
The Reader, Stephen Daldry
Slumdog Millionaire, Danny Boyle


Best documentary feature
The Betrayal (Nerakhoon), Ellen Kuras and Thavisouk Phrasavath
Encounters at the End of the World, Werner Herzog and Henry Kaiser
The Garden, Scott Hamilton Kennedy
Man on Wire, James Marsh and Simon Chinn
Trouble the Water, Tia Lessin and Carl Deal


Best documentary short subject
The Conscience of Nhem En, Steven Okazaki
The Final Inch, Irene Taylor Brodsky and Tom Grant
Smile Pinki A Principe Production, Megan Mylan
The Witness - From the Balcony of Room 306, Adam Pertofsky and Margaret Hyde


Achievement in film editing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Kirk Baxter and Angus Wall
The Dark Knight, Lee Smith
Frost/Nixon, Mike Hill and Dan Hanley
Milk, Elliot Graham
Slumdog Millionaire, Chris Dickens


Best foreign language film of the year
The Baader Meinhof Complex, Germany
The Class, France
Departures, Japan
Revanche, Austria
Waltz with Bashir, Israel


Achievement in makeup
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Greg Cannom
The Dark Knight, John Caglione, Jr. and Conor O’Sullivan
Hellboy II: The Golden Army, Mike Elizalde and Thom Floutz


Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Alexandre Desplat
DefianceJames Newton Howard
Milk, Danny Elfman
Slumdog Millionaire, A.R. Rahman
WALL•E, Thomas Newman


Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
• “Down to Earth” from WALL•E, Music by Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman, Lyric by Peter Gabriel
• “Jai Ho” from Slumdog Millionaire, Music by A.R. Rahman, Lyric by Gulzar
• “O Saya” from Slumdog Millionaire, Music and Lyric by A.R. Rahman and Maya Arulpragasam


Best motion picture of the year
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, A Kennedy/Marshall Production, Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall and Ceán Chaffin, Producers
Frost/Nixon, A Universal Pictures, Imagine Entertainment and Working Title Production, Brian Grazer, Ron Howard and Eric Fellner, Producers
Milk, A Groundswell and Jinks/Cohen Company Production, Dan Jinks and Bruce Cohen, Producers
The Reader, A Mirage Enterprises and Neunte Babelsberg Film GmbH Production, Nominees to be determined
Slumdog Millionaire, A Celador Films Production, Christian Colson, Producer


Best animated short film
La Maison en Petits CubesKunio Kato
Lavatory - Lovestory, Konstantin Bronzit
Oktapodi, Emud Mokhberi and Thierry Marchand
Presto, Doug Sweetland
This Way Up, Alan Smith and Adam Foulkes


Best live action short film
Auf der Strecke (On the Line), Reto Caffi
Manon on the Asphalt, Elizabeth Marre and Olivier Pont
New Boy, Steph Green and Tamara Anghie
The Pig, Tivi Magnusson and Dorte Høgh
Spielzeugland (Toyland), Jochen Alexander Freydank


Achievement in sound editing
The Dark Knight, Richard King
Iron Man, Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes
Slumdog Millionaire, Tom Sayers
WALL•E, Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood
Wanted. Wylie Stateman


Achievement in sound mixing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
The Dark Knight, Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick
Slumdog Millionaire, Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
WALL•E, Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt
Wanted, Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño and Petr Forejt


Achievement in visual effects
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton and Craig Barron
The Dark Knight, Nick Davis, Chris Corbould, Tim Webber and Paul Franklin
Iron Man, John Nelson, Ben Snow, Dan Sudick and Shane Mahan


Adapted screenplay
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Screenplay by Eric Roth, Screen story by Eric Roth and Robin Swicord
Doubt, Written by John Patrick Shanley
Frost/Nixon, Screenplay by Peter Morgan
The Reader, Screenplay by David Hare
Slumdog Millionaire, Screenplay by Simon Beaufoy


Original screenplay
Frozen River, Written by Courtney Hunt
Happy-Go-Lucky, Written by Mike Leigh
In Bruges, Written by Martin McDonagh
Milk, Written by Dustin Lance Black
WALL•E, Screenplay by Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon, Original story by Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter





Two questions.
The Reader?
Really?

Well, overall I'm pleased and not terribly surprised. Sure, The Reader and Frost/Nixon are in the Best Picture category, but I take solace in knowing that neither of them will win.

I'm very happy to see In Bruges and Happy Go Lucky nominated. Richard Jenkins and Melissa Leo are probably getting drunk together right now. Michael Shannon's performance was given its due too. Josh Brolin for Milk is nice to see, although I would've given that nod to Emile Hirsch.

The Fall, style over substance though it was, should have been in there for cinematography and costume design.

I am not bitter over The Dark Knight's lack of a best picture nomination. I may get dismissed for saying this, but I think they're waiting for Nolan to make a third before they give him an Oscar for all three, akin to Peter Jackson for the Lord of The Rings trilogy.

And Summit - if you had put any push behind The Brothers Bloom, it could have easily got in there for original screenplay, costume design and a nomination for Rachel Weisz, at least. Let's hope they remember it come next year.
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I'm a minority, I know, but Slumdog Millionaire is over-rated. It didn't move me as others and I think it's merely good, not great. I am rooting for Milk now.
I'm the opposite. I thought both films were very good but Slumdog was much better. I thought Milk was overrated. Good movie but IMO if it wins best picture over Slumdog I'd have to question it. It wouldn't be a mistake of Crash proportions but I would have to wonder if Milk won because of the film or because of Prop 8 and the Brokeback Mountain screw up. Milk had some excellent moments but there were some parts that just dragged and the movie felt like it was much longer than 2 hours.

With that said, I'm pretty happy with the list of nominees. Didn't see most of the movies but I am happy with the following:

1. Heath Ledger getting nominated for TDK. Although it isn't a surprise at all.
2. RDJ getting a nod for Tropic Thunder.
3. In Bruges getting a nod for best screenplay. Of the other nominated films in this category, I've only seen Milk. But if In Bruges doesn't win then whoever does must have had one fucking amazing screenplay.

Going to see Benjamin Button this weekend. I still can't belive I haven't gotten out to see that considering that Fincher is one of my favorite directers and this is clearly his biggest film to date.

I'm not surprised to see TDK and Button racking up the technical award nominations either. Not surprised TDK didn't get best picture nomination. After watching it a few more times I've come to realize that it is far and away the best comic book/summer blockbuster I've seen in year. That doesn't mean it is an Academy Award film. If it did get a nod it would be because of the gazillion dollars it made and the fact that the studio was pushing hard for one.
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I've said that The Dark Knight was overrated since it came out. It's a very good movie, but it is WAY too flawed to be considered, "Great," and certainly isn't Oscar worthy, IMO. Apparently, the Academy agreed.

It did, however, get all of the technical category nominations that the film deserved. Hell, if any movie deserved a couple more nominations (in the technical categories) it was Iron Man.

You could make an argument that Nolan deserved a nod for direction, but other than that TDK got all the nominations it deserved. Again, IMO. And I have to wonder - If Heath Ledger hadn't died would he have gotten the nomination?
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For those complaining about Springsteen getting no nomination for The Wrestler I believe if a song only plays over the end credits it is ineligible.
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Nominations Discussion.

A song is eligible if it's the first song to play over the end credits, and Springsteen was on the Academy's shortlist for 2008.
http://www.variety.com/awardcentral_...av=news=1982=1

He already has an Oscar though. I would've given a nomination to "Dracula's Lament" from Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Nominations Discussion.

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For those complaining about Springsteen getting no nomination for The Wrestler I believe if a song only plays over the end credits it is ineligible.
then wouldn't the WALL-E song be ineligible?
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Plenty of songs that have only been played over the end credits have been nominated (and won).
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I haven't seen all of the films nominated, but I want to chime in about "Benjamin Button." Wife and I went to see that shortly after it opened, and we both liked it a lot. A few days later, though, we looked at each other and said, "It wasn't that substantive, was it?"

It's nice, it's enjoyable, but there's nothing there that stuck with (for good or ill) in the following days. For me, that's how I judge a movie.
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I haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure people are upset over The Reader. I was pleasantly surprised. I thought it was much better than The Wrestler with which I was mildly disappointed. The only Best Picture nominee I didn't particularly like was Benjamin Button which I think is ridiculously overrated. I'm a big Fincher fan but Seven, Fight Club and Zodiac are far superior.

The other pleasant surprise for me is Richard Jenkins. Marvelous performance. I had thought it had been forgotten, coming so early in the year. Still, I think Langella deserves to win the Oscar.

One more pleasant surprise. Angelina Jolie in the underrated Changeling.
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Sucks for The Dark Knight. I'm pulling for Slumdog to win Best Picture.


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