Wow...the least gore of the franchise. It felt like they cut away from all of the good stuff...a few nice moments at the end but pretty lackluster...and 'you won't believe how it ends'...Really? Because from the first 10 minutes you know where this is headed...there is NO TWIST ending and it was just fucking over... That was it? Yeah, that was it...and it took FOREVER to get there... I thought Saw IV felt like Saw 3.5 and was sure that this one had a lot more story to tell....apparently they're saving that for Saw VI... this was more like Saw 3.7...not a full fledged stand alone sequel...just a few 'bonus' scenes from the last two told to flesh out shit we don't care about. Hackl did nothing to impress me and really lived up to his name. I hope they can revive this tired series next year, because this year = fail.

There are 2 possible reasons for that set of traps.

Ok thanks, I didn't miss anything. I thought of options like those, but considering all of the junk, I thought it would be a lot more meaningful.

Just got back...man that movie sucked. what was with the "you won't believe how it ends" thing? I couldn't believe how it ended so badly. This is the first Saw movie that has no twist ending.

Just got bad, I'm surprised to see that I seem to be the only one who's enjoyed it so far. I agree with some people that it just seems to be a placeholder for VI, but i'm ok with that. I'd rather have a long drawn out story then twist ending after twist ending. There is only so many times you can milk from the same cow.

I wonder where else they can go from here.

It seems to me, since it's apparent that LG wants to franchise "Saw," that it was mistake to end the third movie with the deaths of both Jigsaw and Amanda. Because of that, the films seem to be stuck in this rut where they're concentrating on minor characters from previous films and rehasing Saw III.

It's not that hard to franchise Saw out into six or more movies. You just have Jigsaw setting up traps for new groups of people each movie. And then you kill him off (or he just dies of natural causes) at some point and have Amanda take over.

But lionsgate was nice enough to let Leigh Whannell end III the way he wanted to.

Saw I-III is Jigsaw's story, while Saw IV-VI is Hoffman's.

I highly enjoyed this installment. Pretty much all of the questions I wanted answered from the previous film were answered, and there wasn't as much of a cliffhanger at the end compared to IV, imo.

If the bad guy is dead, i wouldn't mind seeing them borrow the storyline from 'Body Parts' with Jeff Fahey.
Jigsaws body is used for transplant purposes, and while we think the transplant recipients are causing more murders & killing each other off, we find out at the end that some twisted mortician is trying to keep jigsaws spirit alive by reuniting all his body parts onto a Frankenstein type monstrosity.

I'm just waiting for the film that takes place in outer space

the whole scene

Caught a showing last night. It was a fun movie and I still enjoyed it over Saw II (which was my least favorite in the franchise)

My disappointments:

-Running out of ideas for traps. They are just getting stale and boring now.

-Too many flashbacks. Obviously it helps if they are this far into a franchise, but why hold the audience's hand throughout the whole series. Reward those who have been watching every film one after another. Though these flashbacks could also be used to fill up that 85-90 minute time frame

Also on the tape Hoffman made for the agent, didn't it say:



Fun flick, but I agree with everyone in that seems like a giant placeholder for the next installment.

P.S: Does anyone else think Costas Mandylor looks like a chubby James Remar?

Saw it last night. I'm getting rather sick of the retcons in this franchise. I thought it was great when they did it in Saw 3, but in 4 and now 5 it just seems so forced and tiresome. I did enjoy the core Saw plot here with the 5 people... in this regard I thought the movie was better than 4. But the detective/backstory part didn't work for me, and Costas Mandylor doesn't work for me either.

WHAAAAT!? Are you serious?
I consider Saw II the best film from the series so far....
It's miles ahead of this piece of shit,I'm shocked to see this....
Why didn't you like II?

I actually enjoyed Part V much better than IV. I thought Part IV had way too many WTF, Where did they pull that from moments. I actually thought the movie flowed better since it was shorter than the previous films. I don't think a Saw film always has to be almost 2 hours for it to be enjoyable. I thought David Hackl did a nice job for his feature debut. I'm curious to see how much Hackl and Lionsgate will re-insert into the Unrated cut. I really can't see them adding that much footage which would benefit the movie.

Sure, it didn't have some crazy ass twist at the end, but I did enjoy how they filled in the gaps of Saw II and III.

This is my rankings of the Series:

Saw: C-
Saw II: B+
Saw III: B
Saw IV: C
Saw V: B

It was really weird seeing Julie Benz with dark hair. The hair almost looked like a wig.

One thing that puzzled me:

Wow, this was pretty bad and Im pretty damn forgivable... Of course the guy that kept screaming in the theatre "This Sucks!" wasn't helping much either.

Why didn't you tell him to shut up?

You are trolling, to an extent, but they show the live Jigsaw swallowing a wax-covered cassette tape that ends up getting pulled out of the autopsy body's stomach. So there is concrete visual evidence in the series that the body that is opened on the operating table is the one that was previously alive, and identifiably Jigsaw.

Can't rule out any twin brothers, though, can we?

I thought it was okay. I thought IV was the most clever of the sequels, I don't understand the hate for it. I'd say (out of four):

Saw: ***
A solid little thriller hampered slightly by its low budget and some less-than-perfect acting.

Saw II: **½
Clever and solidly performed by Bell and Wahlberg, but the thing that would have helped Saw II the most is balance. There appears to be a whole plan for everyone in the house, but you barely get to see three of the traps, tapes get ignored, etc. And one of the last scenes plays out kind of cheesy due to the performances. You really cannot beat the "needle in a haystack" trap though.

Saw III: **½
Saw III is slightly stronger than Saw II, but it takes itself a little more seriously (not advised) and (this sounds silly) but it's just such a downer, mainly because our supposed hero Jeff broods and whines through every single scene. The flashbacks to traps from Saw I are really great, though, and the ending is pretty awesome. The shotgun shell collar is second behind the haystack trap too.

Saw IV: ***
A great logic puzzle for the main character with an enjoyable payoff, an all-right second twist with Jigsaw's other apprentice, and a really clever third twist that seemed to fly over the heads of some who hadn't seen III recently before watching IV make for the best of all the Saw sequels. Strahm is an entertaining character as well, and the domestic abuser trap is really ingenious.

Saw V: **½
The first of them to feel somewhat by-the-numbers. For me, that came from a sense that the filmmakers weren't invested in whether the fans were satisfied. I may not have loved Bousman's drab-looking directorial murk, but I do believe he gave a shit whether or not the hardcore Saw lovers were satisfied. The weakest in the series, but still watchable I suppose.

Expect the stuff that doesn't make sense to be explained in part VI. That's one of the things I liked about the Saw movies. There was usually some tiny things that seemed out of place or like plot holes, and for the most part they've gone back and filled those holes in. But a lot of the holes in 5 seems hugely annoying.

I absolutely loved when they touched on Dr. Lawrence's light-pen. As others have said, definitely the least gruesome of the franchise, but I think an enjoyable film. You have to remember, this is the FIFTH film in the franchise. If other franchises could still be rollin out movies this good by their 5th installment, I think we'd see it much more often.

Here's my ranking of them...

Saw
Saw III
Saw II
Saw V
Saw IV

I know I'm crazy . I know a lot of people who liked Saw II a lot more than anything that has come out in the series since.

Though Saw V had way too many flashbacks and played out more like a detective film than a horror film, I enjoyed it more than Saw II.

Saw II definitely had the traps going for it (Ex. "Needle In A Haystack) but in the end it felt like another "teen" horror flick with Mark Wahlberg playing Mark Wahlberg in it. The reason I felt that way was because there were too many characters I really didn't care about and as droidguy mentioned a lot of the traps were off screen. Though it's one of the reasons why I like the saw series, Saw II felt like it had too many unnecessary characters mostly just to spring traps and segue in the the next trap.

I thought the group dynamic was done a little better in Saw V, though the final "twist" should've hit harder than it eventually did.

I think you mean Donnie Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg certainly has better things to do than be in a Saw movie.

Oops, my bad

When the tagline of your poster is "You won't believe how it ends." and then you end the movie the same way the past 4 have ended, you fail.

When your traps keep consisting of jars of exploding nails and not anything new, you fail.

Is anyone else out there getting tired of the ret-conning of the saw movies? Can the next one please move forward with a new story. No flash backs to "oh here's what you missed last time" hijinks, I call shennanigans on this movie.

I would have prefered someone going to jigsaws grave and poking him with a metal pole, and then having it struck by lightning and ressurecting him.

Sounds to me like you need to jump ship as far as following these films... because, the re-explaining and flashbacks are what set these films apart from all the other horror franchises. Its their appeal to many viewers.

For what its worth though, its would seem as if Saw VI will move forward a bit more.

As I've said before:

Saw II
Saw III
Saw
Saw V
Saw IV (I dig the way it takes place at the same time as Saw III, but that's it)



All I ask for with Saw IV is just progression. Saw V answered questions (which Saw IV asked a lot of and answered very few from III), but there was no movement in plot advancement.

Now we have to wonder if the last test (VI) will pit Hoffman against Jigsaw's ex-wife. It is not really clear to this point when the autposy of Jigsaw took place. Did the events that we saw in V take place before or after that autopsy? The only other question I have is how many Jigsaw victims had there been before the fat guy in the barbed wire cage from the first one? That particular point beffudles me just a bit.